Democrats destroy GM & now its Government Motors

[copper]

I agree. Plus, it appears everyone is ignoring the Do Not Call list.

Charity or not, I am getting a couple calls a day a day.

I only used to get it from Fire dept.
Now, some rescue thing call me everyday as well

[Gerry]

I only used to get it from Fire dept.
Now, some rescue thing call me everyday as well

Today it was Shriners and NWF (National Wildlife Fund).

I told them that burned children and endangered animals are a Democrat/Obama hoax because I get my news from DNF.

[Donald Aquilano]

Looks like GM has their first Obama car on the market.LOL

[Raider]

I love the teleprompters

[000]

Is that the 2011 Pelosi GTxi SS/Rt Sport Edition? Wouldn't you know, Ben Bernanke gets the first one.

[Gerry]

GOP call to action!

[Raider]

If any of you guys cant find parts for your GM car, contact this guy.




Tell him Raider sent you.

[copper]

I wonder how bad side effects are going to be

[Area52]

Looks like GM has their first Obama car on the market.LOL

Like his administration it runs on hot air.

Also, to cut costs, no rear wheels.

[HarveyJ]

Sorry, but isn't GM failing because their cars sucked, had terrible performance in every sense and the bare minimum safety required by law (already low in the US), with pretty much everything being considered an optional extra?
Forgive me for thinking cars made by companies like Nissan, which pack lot of torque into a small engine and get double the mileage while having ABS and SRS airbags as standard, at a lower retail price, might actually be superior and therefore preferable in an open market place.

Now excuse me, I have to go back to my economy that's still growing because we have a government that isn't entirely made or broken on lobbying and can therefore still get it's act together, and do a sbit of shopping on the easy credit that's still readily available for anyone with a job which 93 of every 100 people do

I was forced to cancel my order on the new 2010 Camaro SS due to the mandatory inclusion on OnStar in the car's system complete with GPS tracking and basically total control over you & your car via remote - and no ability to defeat or remove it.

Paranoid much?
You can remove it with some wire snips, some cabling and a soldering iron.... Or if you're too precious to open up the motor like that, just make a Faraday cage out of lead, and wrap it around the chassis... No signals in, no signals out. Although you might not get radio stations, GPS or phone reception in your car either.

[Raider]

Sorry, but isn't GM failing because their cars sucked

No, it's much more than that, Obviously you haven't been doing your homework Harvey.

[000]

Sorry, but isn't GM failing because their cars sucked, had terrible performance in every sense and the bare minimum safety required by law (already low in the US), with pretty much everything being considered an optional extra?
Forgive me for thinking cars made by companies like Nissan, which pack lot of torque into a small engine and get double the mileage while having ABS and SRS airbags as standard, at a lower retail price, might actually be superior and therefore preferable in an open market place...

No doubt GM is more screwed up than a dog's breakfast, but they can only wish that Nissan was their biggest external problem. You mentioned small engines so let's look at two high volume cheap sedans sold in the US, the Chevrolet Cobalt and Nissan Sentra:

Cobalt
front & side airbags: standard
ABS: optional
traction control: optional
engine displacement: 2.2L
torque: 150 lb-ft @ 4900 rpm
EPA mileage: 24/33
MSRP: start $16,380

Sentra
front & side airbags: standard
ABS: standard
traction control: not available
engine displacement: 2.0L
torque: 147 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm
EPA mileage: 25/33
MSRP: start $15,350

Where is a "lot of torque" or "double the mileage"?

Regarding the "suck" factor, one element is dependability. JDPower 2009 Vehicle Dependability Study measured problems experienced by original owners of three-year-old vehicles. GM brand Buick tied for most reliable. Nissan ranked worse than four GM brands (including GM's bargain brand Chevy) and worse than the industry average. Problems per 100 Vehicles:

Buick 122
Cadillac 148
Industry Average 170
GMC 174
Chevrolet 185
Nissan 199
Saturn 211
Pontiac 220
Hummer 221
Saab 225

[Gerry]

One of the biggest issues at the moment (and I agree with it) is some key people are asking,

Wait a minute. If you can all of a sudden close 800 Chrysler dealerships and 1100 GM dealerships for low volume and non performance -

- why had this not already done before now?

How have you been carrying dead weight at the expense of the taxpayer?

I live outside Winston-Salem NC. Car Dealerships here are like fast food restaurants. There are Chevy dealerships not more than 4 miles apart. Ford is less than that.

What you will not see are multiple multiples of the same foreign makes. BMW, Mercedes, Honda, Toyota, Nissan, VW, AUDI, and so on. You will have to go to the next populated centers of Greensboro or High Point, each about 1/2 hour away.