Earth hour is tonight shut off your lights for it

[Raider]

Moved to political since it is no longer about Earth hour.

Here's something about "Earth Hour" I think you'll find interesting, Something our "Al Gore" lovers conveniently failed to post today.

This is Al Gore showing us ONCE AGAIN what a complete HYPOCRITE he really is; Everything from flying on Private Jets to his $3000 monthly energy bill, And yet fools like H2FC continue to make excuses for him... I cant wait to hear this one;

Al Gore snubs Earth Hour

Watts Up With That?
Monday, March 30, 2009

Al Gore Leaves The Light On For Ya

From Nashvillepost.com

By Kleinheider

Even during Earth Hour. President of the Tennessee Center For Policy Research Drew Johnson takes a Saturday drive by Al Gore’s during the time most environmentalists went dark:

I pulled up to Al’s house, located in the posh Belle Meade section of Nashville, at 8:48pm – right in the middle of Earth Hour. I found that the main spotlights that usually illuminate his 9,000 square foot mansion were dark, but several of the lights inside the house were on.

In fact, most of the windows were lit by the familiar blue-ish hue indicating that floor lamps and ceiling fixtures were off, but TV screens and computer monitors were hard at work. (In other words, his house looked the way most houses look about 1:45am when their inhabitants are distractedly watching “Cheaters” or “Chelsea Lately” reruns.)

The kicker, though, were the dozen or so floodlights grandly highlighting several trees and illuminating the driveway entrance of Gore’s mansion.

I [kid] you not, my friends, the savior of the environment couldn’t be bothered to turn off the gaudy lights that show off his goofy trees.

The picture above is an example of the floodlights that were burning through Earth Hour, which is supposedly “lights off” time for those who get their rocks off by telling children that they will be burned alive because of the use of ventilators, refrigerators and cars. (The “312” is his address – 312 Lynnwood Blvd.)

If you’re unfamiliar, Earth Hour is where socialists and patchouli-dabbing tree-hugging hippies unite to dismiss electricity, fossil fuels and the modern conveniences that allow for historically unrivaled prosperity, longevity, health and quality of life throughout the world.

Thankfully, most of the Kool-Aid drinkers that participated in Earth Hour undoubtedly spent the hour on their couch or on their porch reflecting how solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short life would be without electricity.

Feel free to comment and let me know what you think of this latest example of Al Gore’s hypocrisy. Or man up and tell me that I made you cry because I told you that Earth Day is for mouth-breathing douchetards.

Al Gore Update: Apparently Mr. Johnson’s assessment of Gore’s Earth Hour activities upset the former Vice President, and his spokeswoman issued a statement.

They aren’t perfect, no family is, but they do their best, year-round to try to make a difference at home and across the country to make a difference on the climate crisis.

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LMAO!!!..... Comparing Al Gore to the average family is like comparing Bernard Madoff to Warren Buffett.


Sources;
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/2...bs-earth-hour/
http://matthewhurtt.com/how-al-gore-...ed-earth-hour/

[tas38]

I guess you missed that gore has.......

>>>> The 34 panels look to be between 200 and 250 watts each, for a total capacity at full sun of 6.8 to 8.5 kilowatts for the system.They will provide an offset, but will not fully replace energy consumption there. Given the 10,000 sq foot size and the pool, this is an undersized installation for the home. Some ground based panels would have helped. <<<<

It's down by the photos of gore's solar panel system, on top of his house, and it also says his lights was off inside only other things was still on.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/2...bs-earth-hour/

[H2FC]

Raider....thanks for posting the skeptics' biased account of Al Gores' participation of Earth Hour.

It serves to prove once again that you choose to be a part of the group who ridicule and make fun of the efforts of those of us who advocate doing all we can to promote a clean and healthy environment.

By your actions you choose to be part of the problem instead of the solution.

Everytime I read your favorite quote, "LMAO", I see a dumb moron laughing her ass off!.....keep it coming....it fits perfectly with your stupid posts.

[Raider]

I guess you missed that gore has.......

>>>> The 34 panels look to be between 200 and 250 watts each, for a total capacity at full sun of 6.8 to 8.5 kilowatts for the system.They will provide an offset, but will not fully replace energy consumption there. Given the 10,000 sq foot size and the pool, this is an undersized installation for the home. Some ground based panels would have helped. <<<<

It's down by the photos of gore's solar panel system, on top of his house, and it also says his lights was off inside only other things was still on.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/03/2...bs-earth-hour/

Your saying that all the computers and tv's that were on at the time were using solar power? is that what your saying? I dont see any proof of that in your post... Besides, His spokesman would of indicated that if it was the case, it OBVIOUSLY is not.

And if you read the article, his outdoor lights were ON as one picture clearly indicates.

No, Al Gore once again proves what a hypocrite he truly is.

Raider....thanks for posting the skeptics' biased account of Al Gores' participation of Earth Hour.

It serves to prove once again that you choose to be a part of the group who ridicule and make fun of the efforts of those of us who advocate doing all we can to promote a clean and healthy environment.

And Al Gore is doing all he can?....

Is he doing "ALL HE CAN" flying on private jets that burn MORE C02 than commercial airliners?

Is he doing "ALL HE CAN" paying out nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas in the year 2006 alone? More >

Your an even bigger fool than I originally thought.

Everytime I read your favorite quote, "LMAO", I see a dumb moron laughing her ass off!.....keep it coming....it fits perfectly with your stupid posts.

OOOOH... My last post must of really gotten to you, Does your LOVE for Al Gore really run that deep?, Your not gay or anything like that are you?

I cant understand why you have such a HARD time answering questions that are put forth to you? Instead you act like a 8 year old with a potty mouth, it's no wonder why members have little to NO respect for you here.

Diarrhea of the mouth; constipation of intelligence.

LMAO

[H2FC]

Now, now Raider....no need to escalate the nastiness. You're already as nasty as any member could be so please try to tone it down a little.

Its so obvious when you get your panties in wad...thats when the real Raider is revealed by her filthy and nasty attacks.

BTW....I only offer answers to relevant and sensible questions.....I ignore the stupid ones.

[Raider]

BTW....I only offer answers to relevant and sensible questions.....I ignore the stupid ones.

What you really mean to say is; "I only answer questions that are provided in Al Gores movie or the ones that are SPOON fed to me by the Eco-Left". Right?

It seems the questions you CANT answer result in the usual name calling to detract from the original question, as we can clearly see in this thread.

Going back to Al's movie, I find it laughable that anyone would be gullible and stupid enough to believe some of the bone headed assertions Al Gore made in that movie, For example when Al made the claim that Florida will be 20 feet underwater in the "near" future, When did Al say that? 3+ years ago?

And now your trying to convince us that Solar and Wind power is far more efficient than Nuclear? That solar and wind can generate electricity 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 365 days a year, the same as Nuclear and at LESS cost?.. Is that what you want us to believe?.

You eco-nut jobs should have your own comedy channel.

[tas38]

I'm saying it's not as if gore forgot all about earth hour, and that the way it was put here as if that was the case. In fact the writer of that article, clearly had to do some back peddling in their updates on the article.

Gore was the VP and no one in their right mind, would think he could turn all the lights out leaving him self wide open to nut cases. So my point is not that he is the greatest, it's that he seems to be doing ok seeing how he is the ex VP of the USA.

I'm sure he is still under the gov't protection, so there is no way he can live like us normal people. But I do under stand what bugs you about him, he could do better if he invested more time/money into being greener. Instead of buying off sets most of the time, buying off sets is not going green.

It's saying I got money and can pay for my C02 usage, that not the message he should be sending, he needs to lead by showing how to live as green of life as he can. I'm not for off sets that just buying your way out of not being green, that not what the world needs we need everyone to go green together.

And I also under stand where gore is coming from, but he needs to lead by doing better. Just like I and others have been doing, if I'm going to ask others to be greener then I need to live greener. I went from a 180k oil heater, to 2X 30k natural gas heater and I'm even warmer then before.

I had to do some hard thinking to place the two 30k heaters just right, and to get the heat where it was needed with out using any electric. I had no time to test before winter come, but when it hit 5 degrees this winter my house was warm. And I did not turn the 2 heater higher then 3 1/2, and they go upto 5 so my system works better then I had planned even.

I sold my older auto and drive only my newer one, and only what I have to drive with no driving for the fun of it ever. I have also made major cuts in my electric usage as well, it's been cut by 50% and that not just a little cut that a major cut. And I pay a set rate for my electric, I only pay $54 per month no matter how much electric I use.

[Arrogance]

Moved to political since it is no longer about Earth hour.

You knew it would only be a matter of time until....

[H2FC]

Contrary to what the MMGW naysayers would have us believe the GW issue is not about Al Gore, the dems, or the gop. Its not about anyone wanting to control anything.....it is about putting measures in place to slowly but surely stop the burning of fossil fuels thats causing our planet to heat-up by what is known as the greenhouse effect caused mainly by excessive manmade co2.

Plans are in the works all over the world to stop MMGW and it doesn't matter what any or all of the skeptics think, say, or do about it......MMGW is on the way out.

We will move to clean alternative energy with solar and wind being the main choices.

It will be a slow and expensive process but it is necessary and it will happen.

Here's an interesting article on the subject that just came out today...
http://www.spacedaily.com/2006/09033....mtew86x2.html

[jberryhill]

Yes, We all need to conserve energy but we also need to build more Nuclear power plants, something we will never see from this incompetent administration.

Number of US nuclear generating facilities ordered during:

Reagan Administration: 0

Bush I Administration: 0

Bush II Administration: 0

Trivia question: Which US president had a degree in nuclear engineering and actual experience operating nuclear generating reactors?

Hint: He was the last US president to have graduated from one of our military academies.

[Raider]

Tas,

Are you saying that Al Gore should lead by example? If that's what your saying then I agree with you, Unfortunately in so many cases he doesn't lead by example and comes off looking like a complete hypocrite.... Good point you raised on the security issue though, but that doesn't excuse having his TV's and Computers running, unless of course they were surveillance (which they weren't).

If I was Al Gore and spent 10+ years preaching to the American people on the importance of conservation, I would lead by example as so many other environmentalist's did on earth hour, by simply turning them off for the night, Why cant Al live without them for just night?

I think it's admirable that your doing your part to conserve energy, Your not a hypocrite like he is, And after reading your posts through the years, it's obvious you truly care about the environment and your willing to do your part, Seems the only environmental position we can NOT agree on is MMGW, but that's OK, You have the right to believe what you want to, just as I have the right not to believe.

The problem I have is with extreme environmentalist's like H2FC, who feel they have to attack anyone who disagrees with the MMGW "theory", I think hate mongering individuals like him really hurt the cause rather than advance it, They make people like me and others despise them. Not long ago Compassion created a thread "How to stop global warming fraud: flag the Al Gore robots! and H2FC did what he always does by attacking everyone (indirectly) who was skeptical of the MMGW theory, just as he's done to SO many others in the past 2 years.... Then he turned to his same old rhetoric when Compassion asked him to provide simple facts, What did H2FC give him? He referred him to "Al Gores book" An Inconvenient Truth of all things, Which is NOT factual and NOT Scientific... This was Compassion's response to that BTW;

Ok, thank you for your reply. However, you did not cite one fact. Deferring to Al Gore is not exactly the response anticipated....

Compassion also said it best when he wrote;

I too, once upon a time for just a few months...believed Al Gore and his rhetoric.

Then I became skeptical

Then I researched it.

Then I drew my conclusions.

Just what I did

Were all entitled to draw our own conclusions, But in H2FC's world; those conclusions must coincide with his.

[south]

John:

Carter?

btw, did Pam call you?

Were all entitled to draw our own conclusions, But in H2FC's world; those conclusions must coincide with his.

We could only wish he were alone in his beliefs..

[tas38]

>>> are you saying that Al Gore should lead by example? <<<

Yes I am saying that, he can do much better then buying off sets most of the time. He is trying but that not what he needs to be doing, he needs to lead by being green instead of buying off sets so much.

He can make his house close to 100% green, or even better make more electric then he needs. And sell it to the electric co so that much dirty power is not even made, paying for off sets is a rich man's way of getting out of going green if you ask me.

[Raider]

Number of US nuclear generating facilities ordered during:

Reagan Administration: 0

Bush I Administration: 0

Bush II Administration: 0

I love how you liberals cherry pick to make a point, Nice try.

Let's complete your list OK?

Gerald Ford: 0
Jimmy Carter: 0
Ronald Reagan: 0
George Bush Sr:0
Bill Clinton: 0
George Bush: 0
Barack Obama: 0

Now we can ask the question; Why since 1973 hasn't anybody in the US ordered a nuclear plant that was actually built?

I don't think it's a Republican vs Democrat issue, but since you made it one, I'll let you answer it.

Trivia question: Which US president had a degree in nuclear engineering and actual experience operating nuclear generating reactors? Hint: He was the last US president to have graduated from one of our military academies.

Your not talking about that peanut farmer who prolonged the IRAN Hostage Crisis, gave us Inflation and Recession during the energy crisis,

ARE YOU?

[acronym007]

Yes tonight is earth hour, if you want to vote to help our earth then turn off your lights from 8:30 to 9:30 PM your time zone.

I'll be sitting in the dark for the hour, and hopefully most other people will as well. We need to send a clear message by doing this, may be we can't stop it but we need to try our best to stop it or slow it down.

Tas,

If Earth was 8:30pm - 9:30pm why were you on at 8:31pm and 9:03pm. Did you skip Earth hour? Hmmmm? I'm telling Gore on you.

[tas38]

I turned off all the lights in my house for the hour, they didn't want us to turn off everything just the lights, and I turned off every light that was to show support for earth hour.

[Raider]

Tas, One thing we did in our house is install several motion sensor wall switches, mostly because of the kids that come over.... In California, it's a code requirement for the upstairs restrooms, but we added them in the kids rooms and downstairs restrooms.

[tas38]

Raider that pretty good thinking, I need to look into doing that as well.

[jberryhill]

Tas, One thing we did in our house is install several motion sensor wall switches, mostly because of the kids that come over....

That's a great idea - I suck at turning off lights.

All my lights have an automatic 'off' mechanism - I just leave them on until they burn out. Since I've been switching to fluorescents, I'm more prone to simply leaving them on, since they don't burn out as often.

It's one thing I've always been awful at.

I don't think it's a Republican vs Democrat issue

I don't think it is either, and I'm not going to re-capitulate my courses in energy systems, which included economics.

I was, however, responding to your implication that whether or not any particular generating facility is built is somehow a function of the presidential administration.

It was a choice between responding to that, or your implication that you do not understand equipment utilization ratios (i.e. no generating plant operates 24/7/365 - nukes are offline 20% of the time on average), given my limited recreational time in what we used to call in my weapon control system courses, "a target rich environment".