Florida, with 7 other states to sue federal govt. over H.C. bill

**Tia Wood** · 03-26-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by draggar

In some states it is optional (I've only been in one so far that it was optional).

Auto insurance is another abusive sector that needs a change.

**Gerry** · 03-26-2010, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by draggar

I can see a shortage of general doctors coming in the near future...

The future is here. There has long been a huge gap between what GP's and Specialists make. GP's traditionally make far less than a surgeon would even with the same schooling. That is just how things have "been done" for years. That mentality also has to change.

Right now, more than ever, is the best time to consider any career and occupation relating to medicine.

My buddy who just got back from Haiti to get back to school in Miami told me that 18 people in his class (including himself) are going into Family Practice (GP = General Practitioner). And his son, who is in pre-med, is now giving consideration to changing from Anesthesia to GP. And his daughter is in Dental School at NC State.

With 39 million being added to the healthcare coverage, there is no better time to consider a healthcare career and you many even possibly find the school fully paid for and you may even get a reasonable stipend while in school in return for service to the community that funded your education.

Here are some major occupations that are not on anyone;s radar but will become hugely in demand:

Health Information Technology
Health Information Management
Health Informatics
Medical Coding
Medical BillingAnd, there are some fully accredited institutions offering these degrees 100% online. I'm talking major Brick and Mortar Universities/colleges in the country, not those that are traditionally solely found online.

And because of the demand, there is going to be some major scams going on. Or even legitimately overcharging.

For instance, a 3 HR credit course that University of Phoenix or Strayer University charges $1,900.00 or up to $2500 per class, I can take directly from the accrediting agency for $225.

Many of these occupations require certifications that you can obtain in less than a year. Others are minimally 2 years and others are 4 year BS degree. To move up the ladder, of course you would need a higher degree (MHA,MHI) masters or even a doctorate to be on the top rung.

Seriously, these are going to be name your price occupations in the next 1-4 years, not to mention job security.

**whitebark** · 03-26-2010, 12:23 PM

My sister in law put it best "Woohoo! Finally America has joined the rest of the industrialized world in offering health care to all its citizens. We were ready to move back to Canada as we have pre-existing conditions and were dropped from our provider and then refused everywhere else. The only way I could get health care for me and my children would have been to close down my business, put my employees out of work and use what money that raised to get temporary treatment!"

That's the American system for what it is. Hard working business owners who can't afford treatment for themselves or their children being forced to sell assets, put people out of work (which cancels their plans as well) and get temporary treatment till the money runs out. So when I read the usual rightwing blather from the usual suspects that only the lazy don't get care I can't help but feel they either have no clue what they are talking about or are just plain nasty people who don't care one iota about others - including fellow Americans. And some of these same characters claim to be Christians - which is the biggest irony of all.

**TheSnake** · 03-26-2010, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by whitebark

My sister in law put it best "Woohoo! Finally America has joined the rest of the industrialized world in offering health care to all its citizens. We were ready to move back to Canada as we have pre-existing conditions

Then we should have passed a law that said insurers could not turn you down for a pre-existing condition instead of getting all the other crap, including increased taxes and a new govt. beauracracy. Now, as a US citizen, I am officially mandated to cover all illegal aliens and people that could afford insurance, but simply did not want to pay the cost.
Why does the govt. need to get more involved than simply passing a new law? and in turn raise taxes on businesses and hard-working American citizens? Were there many people that were opposed to the pre-existing condition clause. Probably not, but the DEMS had to go beyond any semblance of reason.

The car insurance argument is just goofy. You are required to have liability/medical coverage on cars because you can cause injury to someone else in an accident.
I am not required to have comprehensive coverage. Car inusrance and health insurance is apples and oranges.

Why does the Govt. have to mandate that I pay for the care of someone else, who is quite possibly NOT a US citizen? This is a Constitutional issue.
People are fed up with paying more taxes and getting nothing in return. Businesses will also be on the hook for this farce. Everyone that wants to start a small business (the lifeblood of American employment) will have to think twice about starting anything.

My brother and ex-wife, who have mental conditions and no insurance, get free medical treatment at govt.-run hospitals on a weekly basis. Now it will be mandated that they have insurance and the Govt. beauracracy that goes with it, to "monitor" the program. This is a joke. The bill should have been called the New Government Re-employment Act.

Why does the govt. need to be involved in Health or Retirement issues (Social Security)? Do we need the govt. to tell us how to blow our nose or eat healthier or...???

Why can't we all go to the Federal Govt. right now and ask them to pay us our Social Security? Because they could not pay everyone!! You thought Bernie Madoff had a Ponzi Scheme going...the Federal Govt. has the biggest Ponzi Scheme running and it is right under our noses...and there is no outrage over this massive, irresponsible program.

We are no longer running a government...it is a charity, redistribution program. If I want to donate to a charity I would like to make the decision...thank you very much.

Talk about taxation without representation. I say vote all of the "lifers" out of Congress... I don't care which party is involved.

If you want to propose some reasonable laws or incentives, I have no problem looking at those. When the government starts dictating personal decisions and is running the show (who can compete with a subsidized Govt.), then you have Socialism. Everyone then becomes generic and the incentive to work hard and earn a living is minimized.

**Tia Wood** · 03-26-2010, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheSnake

Now, as a US citizen, I am officially mandated to cover all illegal aliens and people

How's that?

**Raider** · 03-26-2010, 04:35 PM

Because I don’t believe that the American people are going to put the insurance industry back in the driver’s seat.

They already want it rescinded, what is this guy talking about? Wait until the people learn what this health care bill will actually do, wait until they see their Doctors closing down shop and retiring early.

Wait until 2014 when the mandates kick-in, when people really feel the impact of this Health Care Bill, This is exactly why Obama and his fellow Democrats chose the year 2014, They wont be around to see it, and if by some miracle Obama wins in 2012, he cant seek another term.

It was all in the planning.