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Judging from his choice of green at http://shimkus.house.gov I'd say he's either eco-friendly or into enhanced night-vision special ops
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Tell me its a joke. Americans dont really vote for idiots like this do they?
U.S. Representative John Shimkus, possible future chairman of the Congressional committee that deals with energy and its attendant environmental concerns, believes that climate change should not concern us since God has already promised not to destroy the Earth.
http://www.thestar.com/news/world/ar...representative
Judging from his choice of green at http://shimkus.house.gov I'd say he's either eco-friendly or into enhanced night-vision special ops
It would be funny if he hadn't been elected. I would guess that he would support Nuclear war also. As he believes "The Earth will end only when God declares it’s time to be over. Man will not destroy this Earth."
Unfortunately, for a nation that separates church and state, the US politics are laden with religious nuts.
The answer to your question is YES, unfortunely Americans really do vote for people like this.Originally Posted by ilovedomains
What bothers me most about Shimkus is not his religious feeling but his obvious lack of ethics. If he were an ethical man with such religious convictions he would not seek an office in which he would be instrumental in the fight against globalwarming. This is grossly unfair to the people, not only in America but the whole world.
But, of course he is a member of the GOP.....and most of them seem to be content with hiding their heads in the sand and leaving our children and grandchildren to suffer the consequences of manmade globalwarming.
It is not fair to blame John Shimkus. His voters are merely the products of a educational system that creates ignorant morons who will follow anything that is WELL ADVERTISED. And imagine, these morons vote for guys who will control 10,000 nuclear warheads, that is like a guy after a sixpack of beer operating a bulldozer.
The sauve, elite, well educated and charming US diplomats that foreign countries are used to seeing are just one face of America, the other, ,less visible face is the dangerous ignorant and intellectually challenged progeny of a seriously flawed and dangerous educational system that in effect teaches Americans that the earth is flat and that type of outlook about the world.. their entire knowledge of this big big world comes from propaganda TV , talk shows, and evangelist-mullahs.
It is only a question of time before america's 'christian' (jesus is rolling in his grave) mullah's take over, just like Iran's muslim mullahs take over. The world better brace for those 10,000 warheads and take intelligent and insightful precautions and preparations, all it takes is one idiot to say 'the bible says we have to beat out ploughs into missiles' or whatever, and the crowds will say 'hee-haw' and it is 'bye-bye' for the rest of the world..
Is this the same guy who said the earthquake in Haiti is a result of global warming?
Or was that some left wing Hollywood a*shole who said it?.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Naysayers don't believe in global warming but readily believe the meteorologist on tv. The only difference between weather forecasts for the next ten days and global warming is time. Weather forecasts are short term. Global warming is long term. No one said global warming would lead to the end of humanity. Scientists, in an effort to preserve the environment for ourselves and future generations recommend that we take care of our little planet, so we can avoid the troubles that come along with global warming.
It is just incomprehensible to me how an authoritarian nation such as China finally got on board and has been investing considerably in renewable energies. Not that China cared per say about global warming in the beginning. When China began to experience higher pollution levels and health hazards as a result, it had no choice but to go down the clean road, which it has been doing rather well for the last 2 years. On Real Time with Bill Maher last Friday, someone mentioned China being the largest exporter of wind turbines. Turns out it is the largest exporter of solar panels as well. Plus China has also laid 11,000 miles of high speed rail and is the world's leading investor in clean technologies. In trying to fix its pollution headaches, China is also helping to alleviate the global warming issue. What's not to love?
If China, Brazil, Japan, the EU and Canada get it, why the f-ck is there still a debate on the possibilities (or realities) of global warming in America of all places?
Not true... We all believe the Earth experienced a warming trend... What the people you refer to as naysayers do NOT believe is that mankind is to blame for it... Especially when C02 has been proved to lag behind Temperature. Let's try to keep things in perspective OK?
Perhaps not the end of humanity, but the doomsayers like Al Gore and his gullible followers are certainly guilty of over exaggerations and fear mongering. Like when Al Gore tells use sea levels will rise up to 20 feet in Florida, putting South Florida underwater, Nothing can be further from the truth.
What's not to love?
You claim C02 is the root cause of Global Warming and yet you support China who is the number 1 polluter of C02 in the World?... (not that I believe C02 is a pollutant)
China 6,538,367.00 METRIC TONS
United States: 5,838,381.00 METRIC TONS
China GOOD... USA BAD.
And let's not forget about China's Coal Fired Plants;
Can Coal and Clean Air Coexist in China?
The furious growth of China fueled by burning coal takes a toll on health and the environment
CHONGQING—Coal powers China. In addition to producing about 75 percent of its electricity, the dirty, black rock is burned everywhere from industrial boilers to home stoves. More than 4,000 miners die every year digging up the fossil fuel, shortages abound forcing curbs in electricity use, and the country's transportation infrastructure creaks under the weight of distributing it across the country.
But the Chinese reliance on coal is most visible in the air. Smog cloaks cities, rendering them all but invisible from the sky, which in many spots is little more than a blue patch amid a blanket of haze. And it's not just confined to China: as the pollution builds it forms a brown cloud, visible from space, that takes about a week to cross the Pacific to the western U.S., where it accounts for as much as 15 percent of the air pollution.
There is no true horizon in this inland port city where the majority of China's motorcycles are produced, one of several industrial goods produced here. This "furnace" of China, as it's known, is akin to the entire Rust Belt of the U.S. crammed into a single community of 30-plus million people (twice the size of the New York City metropolitan region)—and its residents breathe air filled with so much lung-clogging soot that it would fail both U.S. and European Union (E.U.) safety standards.
The choking smoke produced by all that coal burning insinuates itself into the lungs of Chinese men, women and children and costs China an estimated $100 billion in health costs associated with respiratory ills, according to the World Bank. Further, it can literally stunt the growth of the next generation in this city in the heartland of China, according to recent research from Frederica Perera of Columbia University and her colleagues.
The Chinese have been burning coal for centuries. Venetian trader and explorer Marco Polo said that one of the most surprising sights during his travels through Asia in the 13th century was the Chinese practice of burning a strange, black rock for heat—and the mountains along the Silk Road that smoldered due to underground coal fires, like the ones burning throughout the country today. In fact, these underground blazes burn through an estimated 20 million tons of coal a year, the equivalent of the entire coal production of Germany last year.
But that pales in comparison to the amount of coal mined and deliberately burned annually by the Chinese: some 2.5 billion tons—double the amount burned by the U.S.—and doesn't even include ever growing imports. Much of it goes to the country's 541 coal-fired power plants, which pumped out 554,420 megawatts of electricity last year, according to the State Electricity Regulatory Commission.
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Last edited by Raider; 11-15-2010 at 05:34 PM.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Because they realize their dependence upon foreign oil and petroleum products has been the cause of their decline in growth and trade deficits widening.
We, on the other hand, are still bought and paid for for the auto industry, oil and petro giants, and our love for low cost fuel. That is a fact. Ask what is the difference and when the gallon of gas we pump in our tanks is 10 bucks or more per gallon like many nations pay.
When there is a debate followed by the drill, baby, drill chant well...you know which side the GOP is on.
I could care less if someone wants to call it global warming. To deny that there is a climate change is sticking your head in the sand. And the bottom line is no one can deny that a cleaner healthier planet is better for all.
But, you're debating with a moron who claims she conducted two years of research on the subject. If she classifies research reading the wires put out by the GOP and PAC and special interests groups research, then I would say that she is well versed in the hot air.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
Of course, because you realize what the green left fanatics have been spoon feeding you is nothing but LIES and EXAGGERATIONS. If you have any intellectual honesty at all, you would come clean and admit, but you DON'T... Your the last person who would admit he was WRONG, Just look at how far your going to bat for Obama just because you voted for him.
"Climate Change" This term can defined in many ways... If your referring to climate change as in humans being responsible for abnormalities in the weather, I wouldn't say your head is stuck in the sand but rather stuck very deep in your ass.
As for a cleaner and healthier planet, We ALL want that.... What the heck does C02 have to do with a cleaner and healthier planet?
We exhale C02 every time we open our mouths, In your case it would be every time you drop your pants....
C02 is NOT a pollutant you Dolt... Get an education.
I already told you in numerous other threads that my research extended to the Vostok Ice Core records that measure historical data of Carbon Dioxide, And now your claiming this data was taken by the GOP, PAC and Special interest groups?
I'll bet if you put your head in a vice and squeezed it, you could Fertilize your entire front lawn with manure and still have some left over.
Last edited by Raider; 11-15-2010 at 08:47 PM.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Geeeee!! And what is the cause of the warming trend that you believe in Raider? You don't get to call it global warming you know. The term "Global Warming" (which didn't exist 70 years ago) is predefined and understood as an increase in temperatures caused by human activity and its impact on the atmospheric environment. The subject of global warming and human impact aren't mutually exclusive. For your sake, don't say in public that you believe in global warming but don't think it was caused by humans. People will know you have no idea what you are talking about. Find some other name to call the type of warming you believe in. I'll say it again. Naysayers (like you) don't believe in Global Warming but readily believe the meteorologist on tv. Given your understanding I wouldn't blame you. Let's try to keep things in perspective ok?
Think I don't know that China is the number one polluter in the world? You don't read do you? I'm supporting their endeavors to go green. I mentioned China's pollution problems as being the reason why they were forced to reconsider energy alternatives. For someone who claims to debate on point, you sure are way off course. You have yet to learn how to read and comprehend.
You are spot on (on all these points).
China has become keenly aware of these issues over the past ten years, especially leading up to the olympics. The smog and pollution was so severe in Beijing. China also became a little more concerned when it realized it had become the number one consumer in so many vital materials that far outstripped their own natural resources. Does anyone recall when China tried to buy a major oil company and refinery based out of California? Does anyone recall the price of concrete up x5 as well as the price of steel when building the Gorges Dam? China is a consumer just like any of us. But China is a monster consumer with 1.6 billion people. That is their downside and their strength. They can call upon those numbers to initiate many changes and become a major workforce.
Realizing that they, China, was going to need energy beyond its means it created an entire industry and mobilized the solar panel boom. I have mentioned this several times because, once again, the US is sucking hind tit on this. The US is the runt of the litter when in essence it had a fair chance at the birth of this industry. Rutgers University installs a $250 million dollar solar energy system on its campus. 100% of the product, technology, installation, and manpower provided by China.
Now, if that is not enough to piss off everyone in this high umemployment, no hope for jobs environment...
The benefits of this technology in terms of jobs, education, cleaner environment, decreased dependence on fossil fuels and foreign oil would benefit everyone...except the auto industry and oil cos.
Therein lies the resistance to this effort...we are controlled by industry and industrial giants who want us to consume more of their goods.
Speaking of which, how come Exxon paid no income tax last year - in a year of record profits quarter after quarter.
Last edited by Gerry; 11-15-2010 at 11:19 PM.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
There is no better time in human history to start an alternative energy company. I would liken these early years of the clean energy industry to the early years of the domain industry or pretty much any other industry. Those who get in now while competition is not yet cutthroat will have no regrets. The smaller companies will definitely give the bigger companies a run for their buck within a decade or 2.
Speaking about Exxon, I almost puked when I learned the fact on Real Time with Bill Maher
[Closed minded for not buying your snake oil? If that's what close minded is, I guess I am.
I like like how you ran away from my challenge.... I'll post it again;
You can always make a believer out of me, All you have to do is provide conclusive evidence that shows Temperature following C02. If you can do that, I'm sold.
Last edited by Raider; 11-16-2010 at 11:15 AM.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Do you believe that mankind is to blame for the pollutants found in water?
Do you believe that mankind is to blame for the contamination of soil?
Do you believe that mankind is to blame for smog?
If so, believing mankind is to blame for a lot of what is being classified as global warming isn't much of a stretch.
Please don't include me and the other more informed members here as believing such nonsense. I see that as an insult.
Governments, corporations and people understand what Global Warming is. That is why in response they are investing and building cleaner technologies. So it ain't just the Norwegians that get it. The people who know its happening and are actually doing something about it, aren't dissociating human action from global warming.
Oh! Now you believe Obama blew 3Trill instead of 5 eh? Good for you. Would you rather have the banks, automakers, Wall Street and other sectors go down under or have a high speed rail from Vegas to San Fran? As much as I would rather see banks and Wall Street and automakers punished, I'd prefer they be bailed out and money be injected into the system. Many jobs may not have been created, but also think about those that were saved. Isn't that worth something? Had Obama not done anything you would have been holding a stance against his inaction. The problem with conservatives (not all but most) is they just don't know how to prioritize.
What makes you think China isn't using its turbines and only exporting? In fact demand within the country for windfarms has more than doubled and China is even getting into the offshore windfarm market as well. China was able to beat its wind turbine installation goals set only 2 years earlier and has set an ambitious new plan for the next 2 years.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-1...cun-talks.html
I have a better article from the Financial Times about onshore and offshore windfarm development in China but can't link through. Need a subscription. As far as solar panel installations it is difficult to say what China's sun power capacity is. Yet in the link above the Bloomberg article mentions it has growth plans to increase the solar power capacity by 2015. If you'd care to research, there are numerous articles on the web that discuss the transformation of China's energy sector. At least they are making the steps in the right direction. As the world's major polluter, I would rather have them continue to invest in green at home.
I'm sorry Raider. You are closed minded.
Just saw Dr. Sanjay Gupta report on Toxic Air.
He related that some places are so toxic, babies are pre-born with pollutants in their body. Some had as many as 233 trace elements in their system.
The most polluted place in the world was a city in China where it is said spending one day there is like smoking 3 packs of cigarettes per day.
Here in the US, the honor of most polluted goes to LA and Phoenix.
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Now, now...she has already spent two years researching global warming and she has published the results of her scientific findings.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
That's funny... It's almost like saying;
Do you believe that mankind is to blame for the sunken ships in our water?
If so, believing mankind is to blame for rising sea levels isn't much of a stretch.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
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