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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michele_Bachmann

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich Would of voted for TARP, Bank Bailout

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Cain voted for TARP, Bank Bailout

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney voted for TARP, Bank Bailout

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Perry voted for TARP, Bank Bailout

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Huntsman,_Jr. voted for TARP, Bank Bailout



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    The way you feel about these two is much the same way I and millions of others feel I'm sure..... The biggest disappointment I have with Perry is subsidizing college education for illegal aliens, this is outrageous... I don't care who in the State Legislature voted for it or why, in the end it's WRONG and UNFAIR to the young citizens of the state who have to pay the entire tuition.... He might be ahead in the polls but this one position alone is going to really hurt him, I will even go as far as saying he's unelectable on this position alone.

    Romney is rehearsed, he's a plastic candidate who will say almost anything to get elected like you say Greg... I don't see him as genuine and I'm afraid if he get's elected Obamacare will be modified and managed as opposed to being repealed.. He's a Moderate and we DON"T need another Moderate like Bush Sr or Bush Jr in the White House, we need a Ronald Reagan conservative like Bachmann. Romney lost to John McCain and John McCain lost to Obama... Think about that.

    I like Newt Gingrich and always have, he's the smartest of them all and has a proven record of helping create millions of jobs while paying down the National debt under Clinton, but he too has some positions that make him look more like a Democrat than a Republican, Health care and Climate change are two examples.

    I like Herman Cain, he's genuine and charismatic, a great businessman with a lot of good ideas and he's not afraid to express them... But he doesn't appear knowledgeable about Foreign affairs and I'm not sure if I like his 9,9,9 tax plan.

    I like the two Libertarians, Paul and Johnson... But some of their positions are way too extreme, and if by some chance either of them were nominated, these extreme positions will be used by the left to re-elect Obama for another 4 years.

    The worst candidate in the running is Jon Huntsman, He's another John McCain democrat wearing a Republican mask... A phoney.

    Bachmann is my 1st choice, Newt 2nd, Cain 3rd.
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    if, i were to choose a republican candidate that has the "Best" chance of getting elected


    it would be Jon Huntsman

    many of the others have too much baggage

    Herman Cain is the token and has no chance what so ever

    if you think repubs hate obama, they won't even think about voting for dude

    don't care if he says ALL the rightgenda right, they don't want another black man as president


    what do you think "Take Back America" is all about

    now i know you may dispute race an element, but like i asked before....what if obama was white?


    Newt won't win either, neither will Mitch or Rick

    though Ron Paul has some credible ideas, but at 75 and being from Texas puts him out of it.


    Michelle Bachmann is unstable period!



    so it looks like Obama again in 2012!

    sorry guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggedon View Post
    Herman Cain is the token and has no chance what so ever

    if you think repubs hate obama, they won't even think about voting for dude

    don't care if he says ALL the rightgenda right, they don't want another black man as president


    what do you think "Take Back America" is all about

    now i know you may dispute race an element, but like i asked before....what if obama was white?
    Your generalization of Republicans as racists is asinine, nothing can be further from the truth and you have ZERO evidence to back it up.....

    You really believe the dislike for Obama circles around race and not ideology? My God.

    When I look at Obama I see a Liberal who want's to bring European socialism to the United States..

    When I look Cain I see a Republican businessman with conservative values and principles, I don't see a Black man... But you do?

    You asked, what if Obama were White? If Obama were White, the Black congressional caucus would of lashed out against him a LONG LONG time ago, maybe even asked for his impeachment. The only thing saving Barack from the black caucus is the color of his skin.

    Interestingly, they Black Caucus is Democrat.


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    Herman Cain really impressed me last night. Have some reading to do, but like what I hear so far. If the vote were held today, he would get my vote. Would love to see him & Obama debate.

    Perry did nothing for me. Whoever brought up scrapping the income tax & putting in a consumption tax also gets high marks from me. Romney is definitely polished, but a bit plastic also, and comes with baggage. I like Bachman, but with her gaffs she has little chance.

    Need to do more reading / watching...
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    I was most impressed when the candidates admonished the members of the audience who booed when the gay service man asked a question.

    uh oh - wait.

    That's right. That didn't happen.


    No one on stage admonished the audience members for booing or even mentioned that they were proud of the young Americans putting their lives on the line in Afghanistan - even for the asswipes that booed and the Supreme Wannabees that said nothing to those that booed and said nothing in appreciation for the service members.

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    Quote Originally Posted by south View Post
    Herman Cain really impressed me last night. Have some reading to do, but like what I hear so far. If the vote were held today, he would get my vote. Would love to see him & Obama debate.

    Perry did nothing for me. Whoever brought up scrapping the income tax & putting in a consumption tax also gets high marks from me. Romney is definitely polished, but a bit plastic also, and comes with baggage. I like Bachman, but with her gaffs she has little chance.

    Need to do more reading / watching...
    Did you watch the group of voters after the debate on Fox?.. many of them switched from Perry to Cain as well... And these so called political experts being interviewed in the media are counting Cain, Paul and Gingrich out of the race, here we go again with the MEDIA choosing our candidates..... They look at the poll numbers of today and tell us who's going to be the nominee, just like they did with Rudy Giuliani who was the clear front runner in the last presidential election and look at what happened to him.

    I'm not predicting a winner, I'm just posting who I would LIKE to see nominated.. It's way to early, anyone of these 9 candidates can win, I just hope it's NOT Huntsman.


    And did somebody post about a ex gay serviceman being booed by ONE, may TWO members of the audience last night over "Don't ask don't tell" A policy implemented by the Clinton administration? Every audience has it's plants and I'm sure we had a few in the audience last night.

    This brings me to ask another question; Where was the outcry when Jimmy Hoffa got up on stage 20 minutes before introducing Obama and incited violence against the Tea Party when he yelled out; “take these son-of-a-Bitc*es out!” Where was the admonishment from our President who preached just 8 months ago about "Civility" after the Gabrielle Giffords shooting? Where was it? I didn't hear it, did you hear it?

    Notice that whenever the Left preaches violence and hate, they make excuses for it, but when the right does the same, the left condemns it and uses it as propaganda against the Republican party... It's all about WINNING, written in Saul Alinsky's book "Rules for radicals". A book that Obama and his leftist followers live by.
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    Bachman, lol. lol. Flabbergasted. Ya'll crazier than I thought.

    The biggest Nazi on that list is Newt Gingrich.

    I like Cain and Paul, but they don't have a chance. Republicans are too stupid to elect and focus on the right candidates...

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggedon View Post

    so it looks like Obama again in 2012!

    sorry guys
    I hope Obama wins so we can watch Raiders skin crawl for another four years while he destroys America with European style socialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedomains View Post
    I hope Obama wins so we can watch Raiders skin crawl for another four years while he destroys America with European style socialism.
    I think your stupid enough to think Obama has a chance of re-election.
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    I'd like to hear more from Rick Santorum. I've heard him speak in the past, and he seems sharp. Romney is all soft and cuddly, and the wrong man for times like this. Perry is as oily as they come, and completely untrustworthy I think. Bachmann is just not sharp enough. I've seen her in gotcha interviews (which is pretty much any time the mass media interviews a female Republican - what is it about leftists and women?), and rather than turn the inappropriate questions back on the interviewer, she tries to get gently back on message. Too soft. Cain understands business, apparently, but we don't need another president who's clueless and uninterested in international affairs - 4 years of Obama will be enough of that. Same thing with Paul, he's isolationist. And he's too old. And he's a crackpot and apparent racist. (All that and he still makes more sense than many of the other candidates.) Who does that leave, Huntsman? He's in the wrong party. Then there are the others, if I could just remember their names...

    Christie would make it interesting, but how long before he has a heart attack in office? If he had a great VP, I'd vote for him.

    And then there are still many people who think Obama is just fine, so it's not looking promising for the country I was born in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Domainace View Post
    I'd like to hear more from Rick Santorum.
    I say this not as a political partisan, but as someone who has heard Santorum speak in person and who lived in PA when he was a senator there:

    The more you hear from Santorum, the less impressed you will be. He is really way out of his depth. There's no "there" there.
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    Ron Paul befuddles the crap out of me.

    Some things are so spot on and others are way out of kilter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    The biggest disappointment I have with Perry is subsidizing college education for illegal aliens, this is outrageous... I don't care who in the State Legislature voted for it or why, in the end it's WRONG and UNFAIR to the young citizens of the state who have to pay the entire tuition.... He might be ahead in the polls but this one position alone is going to really hurt him, I will even go as far as saying he's unelectable on this position alone.....
    Agree. No way Perry can get elected due to that shocking extreme-liberal position. Little doubt he is now dropping sharply in the polls since that news became well known. If the opponents are smart they will make this a huge negative issue against Gov Perry. It's hard to believe he could approve in effect almost 100k over 4 yrs college ed for illegals to be nice and kind to them. Absurd and amazing.

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    Will Chris Christie run? I am hearing that since the sheen has worn off Perry that he is now considering entering.

    I would love to hear this guy in a debate. He is not extremely polished as many other candidates and he tells it like it is (or at least what he thinks it is).

    Right now this is the GOP imploding.

    Oh, by the way...did you hear that Sarah Palin is seeking donations to help her make up her mind? Yup, she wants money from her supporters and that will help her make a decision. Sounds like a tele-evangelist...send in your money and get a ticket to heaven.

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    My prediction - the US voting populace will act like lemmings and choose whoever is the better BS artist because they pay too much attention to elections that are not that important and don't pay attention to elections that are important. They also will pay too much attention to the "R" or "D" attached to their name.

    Then, things will pretty much be the same as they have been for decades while everyone complains about it. Whoever is voted in will go about and promote their own agenda regardless of what they said during the campaign. People who bribe officials (er, I mean contribute to their campaigns) will continue to demand legislation that gives them more power yet takes is away from the working public.

    The rich will make themselves richer while the working class gets screwed in the end.
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    Not only does Rick Perry support college resident status discounts to illegals but he is also taking heat for his opposition to a fence that would stretch the length of the US/Mexico border, which his foes say is further evidence Perry is soft on illegal immigration. My question is why in the world would anyone oppose such a fence., especially a conservative Tea Party favorite like Gov Perry?

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    Perry had a difficult decision to make. Do you penalize the children of the illegal immigrants when they were forced to come to the US when their parents crossed illegally?

    The moral answer is no. By not allowing these children to go to school is adding to the illiteracy rate of this nation (and his state) and putting tens of thousands of additional children on the streets when their parents are at work (whether legally or illegally) and when other children are in school. You would potentially see crime in Texas skyrocket from the petty crimes to felonies. Another option was to have these underaged school-aged children working along side their parents violating child labor laws. Surely this would have turned the state of Texas into a sweat-shop and child slavery state.

    So the options of not allowing (and even paying for) these children to attend school and get an education were not viable options.

    It is for those reasons (and what I believe was a moral decision to not penalize these children for their parents crimes) that Perry made this decision - which I applaud.

    Whether it is right or wrong politically will be debated. Whether it was moral or not is not debatable.

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    Talk about IGNORANCE, somebody obviously does not have a CLUE what he's talking about, This is not about illegal aliens going to public grade school, this is about the Texas Dream act law that allows illegal students to attend Texas universities at "subsidized in-state tuition rates" NOT available to U.S. citizens. GET IT?

    Illegal Aliens can go to college at a discounted rate but Legal citizens CANT?... That's f*cked up no matter how you look at it.


    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    My prediction - the US voting populace will act like lemmings and choose whoever is the better BS artist because they pay too much attention to elections that are not that important and don't pay attention to elections that are important. They also will pay too much attention to the "R" or "D" attached to their name.

    Then, things will pretty much be the same as they have been for decades while everyone complains about it. Whoever is voted in will go about and promote their own agenda regardless of what they said during the campaign. People who bribe officials (er, I mean contribute to their campaigns) will continue to demand legislation that gives them more power yet takes is away from the working public.

    The rich will make themselves richer while the working class gets screwed in the end.
    The last mid-term elections they clearly were paying attention.... I'm sorry, I just don't buy into your argument that ALL politicians are bullshit artists, YES, we elected one in 2008 because Americans were too stupid to recognize what a bullshit artist he was, a turncoat who will say and do anything to advance his radical leftist ideology... Out of the 9 Republican candidates running, I'd say 3 of them will do a 180 once their in office, and 1 of them will do a 360 like what Obama has done...

    Unions and Lobbyists are what's corrupting our political system, that in turn makes politicians corrupt.. Candidates need to raise money to win elections and that money comes at a price, the big donors expect a return on their money and that means a PAYOFF once elected..... Solyndra is a PERFECT example of that, $550,000 given to lobby Democrats in congress, $100,000 donated to Obama's campaign, what was the payoff? A $535 MILLION Government backed loan that would NOT of been granted otherwise, A loan that didn't have a chance in hell of being paid back, A Green company that ended up filed for bankruptcy and invoked the 5th just yesterday. End result; Tax payers are out to the tune of 1/2 a BILLION Dollars.

    The only way your change it is by reforming it, until that happens it's going to be business as usual.


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