Guess what America. You've been robbed.

[JMJ]

I'm going to explain more of this in the coming days but just to give you a brief run down. There is a war going on right now that most people don't understand. It all started long ago but it is happening right before your eyes and you don't even realize it. I've posted a few links to videos in the past few months regarding this and I will post them again so you can get a full understanding.

For a brief understanding of how the 700 billion was more than actually 700 billion you should see the following link. I've been really busy lately trying to inform people of whats really going on locally and at other places. You need to inform everyone you know of what little you will learn from here. I'm working on a site that will explain everything in more detail. Once I get it up and running I'll let you know.

U.S. Pledges Top $7.7 Trillion to Ease Frozen Credit (Yeah you read that right 7.7 trillion not 700 billion and they aren't finished yet. That's $24,000 for every man woman and child in the country. 1/2 of the entire GDP last year)

http://bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2...Drk&refer=home


Watch this video for a brief overview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65Vkqcrfh9A


More in depth 45 minute video

Money As Debt

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...bt&emb=0&aq=f#

For the advanced course

The Money Masters

http://video.google.com/videosearch?...rs&emb=0&aq=f#

And if you really want to open up your eyes to reality.

The Energy Non-Crisis
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...b=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Syndrome Of Control
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...b=0&aq=-1&oq=#

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."
Henry Ford

[south]

Nice of them. Why us? Time to jump the fence *to* Mexico?

[JMJ]

Mexico will do you no good. In truth it's not just us. The same group is causing all the problems around the world. See whats happening in Iceland right now to understand what I mean. They want the world to go on a world fiat currency so they can make or break economies as they wish. Sinking us into debt so they can come to us at a later point and offer us the solution.

[south]

Was being sarcastic..

Seriously, an interesting (and scary) read. Thanks!

[Seraphim]

Nice of them. Why us? Time to jump the fence *to* Mexico?

If you don't like crowds, wait 5 years and eventually all of Mexico will reside in Southern California. You'll be like Christopher Columbus crossing the border.

[JuniperPark]

If you don't like crowds, wait 5 years and eventually all of Mexico will reside in Southern California. You'll be like Christopher Columbus crossing the border.

Actually this year lots of Mexican are RETURNING to Mexico as the building and remodeling industry had dried up.

Tijuana is having a huge drug war right now... just about every weekend for the last 3 months police officers have been beheaded, and there are shootouts in broad daylight on city streets, some in tourist areas. All of the morgues are completely full and they can't bury people fast enough. Our bike races there have been cancelled and the bars/clubs are empty. All of this just about 25 miles from here.

[JMJ]

And it shouldn't be that way. We all want to eat, drink and be merry. We have people hijacking oil tankers so they can get enough money for food in one place. And letting food go to waste in another. Free trade in the right way is good for all but the current system doesn't appear to be working.

Here's a new article on the matter

A tsunami of hope or terror?

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/...P?OpenDocument

[jasdon11]

Gordon Brown is an idiot - I wouldn't trust him to park my car.

[Compassion]

Mostly review for me anyway...

Thanks for the thread..

[Donald Aquilano]

Whatever happened to letting businesses go chapter 11? We already have a process for dealing with companies that can't make it. Just remember that the more the government gets involved the worse it will be. I see a depression coming if they continue with their current policies of injecting liquidity into the market. Somebody had mentioned before in a different thread that this bailout is in violation of the Constitution and I tend to agree on this point.

[Focus]

I love Ron Paul....good post JMJ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4kxTkhwR_Q

[PRED]

ron paul seems like a genuinely nice guy. like your friends dad or something. someone who talks sense and you have known all life

well done america, at least you have 2 decent politicians out of all the freaks you've been serving up in recent years

[fab]

The Energy Non-Crisis
http://video.google.com/videosearch?...b=0&aq=-1&oq=#

Saw the whole thing. I tend to believe possibly 1% of truth to it.

[jasdon11]

Saw the whole thing. I tend to believe possibly 1% of truth to it.

Is that because of the source of the information, or because you don't think that the authorities would lie so much?

[fab]

Is that because of the source of the information, or because you don't think that the authorities would lie so much?

Not the source, the content.
Questions number 1 for you, assuming you believe most or all of what he said.
Do you think the "decision makers" he was discussing, put Obama into power? He said they have control over who will get elected president.

[jasdon11]

Not the source, the content.
Questions number 1 for you, assuming you believe most or all of what he said.
Do you think the "decision makers" he was discussing, put Obama into power? He said they have control over who will get elected president.

To be fair, I haven't watched it all. And I don't believe that the 'decision makers' are all in the oil business (I'm guessing they are who he is talking about), but I do believe that there is a group that control things behind the scenes.

This group is not affiliated to one political party, nor are they from one nation, but they do control the politics (of all parties) and the resources, finance, and the media - the most powerful section being the media.

[fab]

To be fair, I haven't watched it all. And I don't believe that the 'decision makers' are all in the oil business (I'm guessing they are who he is talking about), but I do believe that there is a group that control things behind the scenes.

This group is not affiliated to one political party, nor are they from one nation, but they do control the politics (of all parties) and the resources, finance, and the media - the most powerful section being the media.

I did see the entire thing, yes it was quite long. I did find him quite entertaining, and believe somewhat some things he has to say, but have my serious doubts about the vast majority.

And I don't believe that the 'decision makers' are all in the oil business (I'm guessing they are who he is talking about),

No actually not. You'll have to see towards the end.

[JuniperPark]

Whatever happened to letting businesses go chapter 11? We already have a process for dealing with companies that can't make it. Just remember that the more the government gets involved the worse it will be. I see a depression coming if they continue with their current policies of injecting liquidity into the market. Somebody had mentioned before in a different thread that this bailout is in violation of the Constitution and I tend to agree on this point.

I have yet to see a good answer to this question.

The politicians keep pretending that if "allowed to fail", everything wiul just shut down and people will be out of work, which is NONSENSE. The competitors will buy up the assets and put at least some of the people back to work.

The 'bailout' should be renamed "paying companies to fail".

[fab]

The 'bailout' should be renamed "paying companies to fail".

Or giving them incentives to fail or act recklessly. Sort of like a spoiled son from a wealthy home. Dad gives him bucks to get a business going, and then he invests in options, futures. Worst comes to worst, daddy will get him going again.

[JMJ]

I'm sure there are parts to the non-energy crisis that may not be true. But you have to take information from all aspects. And from what I've been finding from many different sources more and more a lot of this stuff is very real. That particular guy called in and told Alex Jones that oil was going to go to 50 a barrel before it happened. And what do you know it happened just like clockwork. He also said 4-5 months ago Indonesia would become a big oil player. Well what do you know there are oil fields being discovered right and left over there now. During the same phone call he said they told him to no longer sell that particular video or they cant guarantee his safety.

New Gas Discovery in Indonesia, Oil Development in UK

http://www.premier-oil.com/render.as...12,327,503,529

The whole global warming issue is nothing but a way to add more taxes. I mean really. Do they need to tax cows and pigs due to their "flatulation"? Give me a break. Just another way to tax and up goes our food prices. WHy dont they spend some time regulating those dirty manufacturing companies?

EPA Proposes “Cow & Pig Tax”
http://montanacampaignforliberty.wor...s-cow-pig-tax/

I mean hell are they going to start taxing us for our flatulation?

Here we have all of these terror alerts now popping up. You have shootings going on in India and these idiots on TV are sitting here talking about how this is going to go on for days. How in the hell do they know? People starving and rioting in Iceland. Riots in Thailand. We're in a war that was completely based on lies and now they are trying to draw us into another one saying the same crap. It's all bull.

98% of the general public was against this bail out and the phones were ringing off the hook there with people telling them not to do it. They did it anyway. And they keep throwing more gas into the fire with more bailouts. They don't care what the hell we think. They are just going to do whatever it is they want to do. It's pretty obvious we are being screwed with royally.