Is Herman Cain a pervert?

[ilovedomains]

Now a fourth woman claims Cain sexually harassed her. Will this finish the the tea partys token black candidate?

You dont hear much from the tea party these days. Are they ashamed of their candidates?

Karen Kraushaar, Herman Cain Accuser, Goes Public With Sexual Harassment Allegations
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1082259.html

[draggar]

I find it interesting at how much it bothered them that it took them so long to come out with it.

Seriously, if someone pulls this crap then call it out when it happens, don't keep it hidden to use as ammunition decades later.

[Gerry]

You dont hear much from the tea party these days. Are they ashamed of their candidates?

I think they are ashamed of themselves.

They immediately jump on the Bachmann bandwagon. Then they jump off.

They then jump on the Perry boat. Then they abandon ship.

Then they jump on the Cain Party barge. Crash.

Essentially they are saying they will take anybody.

They have tried to entice Barbour. Then Christie.

They don't want Newt. They don't want Romney.

Yet they have NO IDEA how foolish they (the tea party) is looking. Without knowing any one's platform, stanch, or record they immediately get on board with a candidate. It used to be you got to know the candidate before you support the candidate.

They are essentially handing the election to Obama.

I am convinced that now is THE time for McCain to announce.

Perhaps Biden or Hillary should announce their candidacy so the tea party would vote them into office.

[H2FC]

Perhaps Biden or Hillary should announce their candidacy so the tea party would vote them into office.

Now that is a believably! It could be the ace in the hole for the democrats if it looks like Obama can't win another term.

[Poker]

I find it interesting at how much it bothered them that it took them so long to come out with it.

Seriously, if someone pulls this crap then call it out when it happens, don't keep it hidden to use as ammunition decades later.

I "find it interesting" that you assume these women just came out with it. Also "find it interesting" that you are so quick to judge these women without knowing the facts. Tell us all draggar what you know about Karen Kraushaar and her history in all of this. Look it up if you have to...at least you can then claim to have done some actual research before spouting off and throwing these women under the bus yet again.

[Infoproliferati]

My response to Cain:

If you are accused of sexual harassment by four women and your arrogance doesn't buy you credibility, blame yourself.

[TheLegendaryJP]

Don't you know all 4 women and btw his words " maybe more coming " , are all a creation by the machine against him!

Does he even hear the crap coming out of his mouth, lost all credibility he had imo, what scares me is at least Clinton looked worried when he lied about Monica, this guy does it straight faced.

[Gerry]

Here's the thing...if Cain's credibility is NOT an issue with the tea party, then what is the purpose of the tea party?

Oh, that's right...they forgot.

[500,000]

Its now SIX women with spiteful harts.

[draggar]

I "find it interesting" that you assume these women just came out with it. Also "find it interesting" that you are so quick to judge these women without knowing the facts. Tell us all draggar what you know about Karen Kraushaar and her history in all of this. Look it up if you have to...at least you can then claim to have done some actual research before spouting off and throwing these women under the bus yet again.

Why is it suddenly news now? Why wasn't it news when it happened? Why wait years or decades to come out with the news?

Look at what Tiger Woods went through - it wasn't until things started to fall apart when all these women came forward and complained about him, claimed they had an affair with him, etc..

Take care of things like this when they happen. Yes, it is NOT easy at that time and may be easier to do it later but when you wait and it does bother you then it just festers inside of you - the sooner you take care of it the sooner you can try to put your life back together.

"Yet again"?? What, am I constantly throwing women "under the bus"? Where have I done this? Please, show me my alleged "sexist" attitude.

I also think the same thing about all the men who claim they were abused by priests as children - WHY DID THEY WAIT? Hell, if my child was abused I would make damn sure the guilty would be behind bars for a very long time.

When you take care of things right away memories are still fresh and it is easier to recounrt details but when years or even decades have passed memories get faded (in everyone). Defense lawyers will have a field day with the whole "do you really remember everything?" and every little inconsistency might be brought out and exploited.

IMO if people sit on issues like this and wait until the alleged person is in the limelight then chances are they have alterior motives.

Edit: Before more words are put into my mouth, I am IN NO WAY supporting what was done (or allegedly done) to the victims.

[Gerry]

You have to give credit to this woman's selection in attorneys.

Gloria Allred is the same attorney who represented the woman that brought down and forced Weiner to resign.

[whitebark]

He should have been discredited from the get-go when he said of protesting Americans - "I don't have facts to back this up, but I happen to believe that these demonstrations are planned and orchestrated to distract from the failed policies of the Obama administration. Don't blame Wall Street, don't blame the big banks, if you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself!"

Then factor in his pathetic knowledge of the outside world (seems to be a Republican prerequisite) and that should be enough to keep people away. These new accusations only reinforce everything else wrong with him as a candidate and person.

With that said though, I will say this, "Americans get the governments they deserve. You allow the two-party corporate system to manifest and entrench itself to the detriment of the vast majority of Americans. You only have yourselves to blame."

A two-party system is not a democracy - it's a recipe for failure.

[Gerry]

I find it interesting at how much it bothered them that it took them so long to come out with it.

Seriously, if someone pulls this crap then call it out when it happens, don't keep it hidden to use as ammunition decades later.

I am sure statistics would show that a great deal of those sexually harassed or assaulted are psychologically damaged. Even a large number of rape victims do not come forward due to countless reasons...embarrassment, persecution, withdrawn...it must be very difficult to deal with these issues on a personal level.

Plus, many times the guilt is shifted toward the victim should charges be filed. The defense will do everything it possibly can to portray the victim as the aggressor, sending out wrong signals, dressing inappropriately, flirting, and so on. Filing formal charges is essentially an invitation to relive the experience and put your personal life on display and many women do not want to go through this ordeal.

I can't help but think that once one person comes forward against a particular person, the other victims feel empowered to speak out.

Sometimes, all it takes is that one person to speak out.

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He should have been discredited from the get-go,,,

Well, his foreign affairs background leave a lot to be desired. He mentioned that he is concerned about China becoming a nuclear power.

[whitebark]

[/COLOR]Well, his foreign affairs background leave a lot to be desired. He mentioned that he is concerned about China becoming a nuclear power.

Yeah, so did Nikita Khrushchev four decades ago. He almost makes Palin look like a Harvard professor when it comes to foreign affairs.

[Gerry]

He should have been discredited from the get-go...

He has discredited himself with this issue...first he blamed the allegations on the liberal left wing. Then he blamed the Perry campaign. Then he blamed the Right Conservative movement. Then he attempted to shift this to a race issue. Now he is blaming the women who accused him. He is blaming the media...

Every one is lying. Everyone is guilty of accusing him.

Yeah, he really does wish that the focus of everyone's attention to get back on the issues that matter.

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Yeah, so did Nikita Khrushchev four decades ago. He almost makes Palin look like a Harvard professor when it comes to foreign affairs.

Yup, at least she has lived next to a foreign country.

[biggedon]

in 1999, there was no facebook or youtube



just another man who fell, for the smizzell... of da punnanie


but he still clockin dollars i heard

[Poker]

Dude no one is putting words in your mouth...these are your words coming out of your mouth.

I find it interesting at how much it bothered them that it took them so long to come out with it.

Seriously, if someone pulls this crap then call it out when it happens, don't keep it hidden to use as ammunition decades later.

Simply asking why you are so quick to judge these women without knowing the facts. Also suggested you tell us all what you know about Kraushaar (the subject of this thread) and to do some actual research on her situation before spouting off all armchair quarterback. If you had you would know she received a settlement after accusing Cain of sexual harassment WHEN it happened in the late 90's. Obviously to receive a settlement she had to come forward with her allegations. Part of that settlement was a confidentiality agreement that barred her from discussing her complaints in public. It was not until Friday that the organization agreed to waive that confidentiality agreement. What if the woman/women in question were your girlfriend or wife or mother or sister? Doubt you'd be so quick to judge their responses.

"Yet again"?? What, am I constantly throwing women "under the bus"? Where have I done this? Please, show me my alleged "sexist" attitude.

Not implying that you are, but again imagine it's your wife in this situation and she had been barred from even talking about it again for 10 years then the guy starts a run for President. It was difficult for her to even talk about it in the first place I'm sure and now when she brings it up again she gets criticzed for it all over again.

[David G]

After hearing Herman Cain was not aware China already had nuclear weapons I am no loger supporting him (not only because of the current scandal but over his incredible lack of knowledge about world events). Most of the public knows China is a long time member of the nuclear club so how is it possible someone of his stature did not?

Where in the world has Herman Cain been for the last 50-yrs? Now liking Jon Huntsman as a good alternative to Mr. Cain. Mr Cain’s poor knowledge seems similar to what Sarah Palin displayed to the public 5-yrs ago during the 2008 election debates.

[Gerry]

I am a member of the GOP.

Americans should be scared as hell in 2012. Why? Because it is plain to see that the GOP has as its only goal is to make Obama a one-term president. If that happens, well...so be it. But be scared, very scared. Because the GOP has made a complete ass of themselves in the party by showing they will take anyone as a potential candidate. They embrace all these new entrants as if they are the new messiah. Then all the dirty laundry and issues come up AFTER the embrace. It looks like someone applying for a job but the HR department is relying solely on the resume and not checking references.

Right now, it is clear that if Trump said he was in, the GOP would go with him. If Rudy Giuliani said he was in, the GOP would embrace him. If Haley Barbour changed his mind, the GOP would embrace him. If McCain said he was in, the GOP would embrace him. If Palin said she was in, the GOP would embrace her.

It should be very clear that the GOP/Tea Party does not care about the issues but only cares about making Obama a one-term president. From day one since the last election results in 2008, making Obama a one term president has been job one and priority one. Jobs, unemployment, healthcare, poverty, race, religion, crime, immigration...none of these have been an issue with or important to the GOP. That is clearly evident by the do nothing party of NO who has not passed a single measure to benefit anyone. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves and living in an unreal, lost sense of reality.

I will not vote GOP just for the sake that the GOP has a candidate. I will not vote for the GOP candidate because it is the candidate that has the backing of the Tea Party. I will not vote GOP simply because I am a registered Republican voter. I will not vote GOP simply because I want Obama out of the White House. I will not vote GOP because people tell me I should.

I will vote GOP if that candidate who wins the nomination has sound experience, plans and solutions to the long laundry list of problems that has plagued this country since the last administration. I will vote GOP if that candidate selects a sound, viable, and experienced VP running mate.

Yes, I have listened to and read extensively on the current GOP field of candidates. Paul, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Newt, Romney have been the candidates I have focused in on. I am not liking what I am seeing, what I am hearing, what I am reading, their history of public services, their previous stances and votes, their previous service as an elected official, and their ability to unite and lead.


Yes, Americans should be scared as hell. If Obama is re-elected, it will be an additional 4 years of voting no, it will be an additional 4 years of stagnation, and an additional 4 years of the GOP focusing solely on winning the election of 2016.

If a republican is elected, it will be a person who is less qualified to lead but is chosen simply because they wear a GOP button. If that is how the GOP party operates, I want no part of this party.

I want so much to register as an independent or non-partisan but these are typically not allowed to vote in the local elections and primaries. I think this needs to be revisited and changed for the sake of those of us who are totally fed up with party politics.

[Tedgeman]

[QUOTE=. You allow the two-party corporate system to manifest and entrench itself to the detriment of the vast majority of Americans. You only have yourselves to blame."

A two-party system is not a democracy - it's a recipe for failure.[/QUOTE]

Make me laugh, that nails it on the head, Whitebark, but be careful not to wake the Americans, to the fact, they have no Democracy only Corporate Communism. Corporate Communism is a social, political and economic ideology that aims at the establishment of a classless, moneyless, revolutionary and stateless socialist society structured upon Corporate ownership of the means of production.

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I wish America the best, and I appreciate them as great neighbors, however, Obama or what ever head they place on it, this president or the next, is just a puppet front man, with little power to change anything, no matter how their good intentions fly, if they rock the boat, they will suffer the consequences, right up to some brain washed nut case assassinating them. The 2 parties, controlled by the rich and corporations, will not level the disparity between the have and the have nots, sorry. Voting is futile! The only solution to this system is not easy and will never be achieved by the complacent.