Hitler Comparisons and Media Reporting: Then and Now

[JMJ]

Be sure to follow the link and watch the video's.


"Not too long ago, hundreds of thousands of protesters took to the streets with signs comparing our president to Adolf Hitler, painting him as “the world’s biggest terrorist,” even calling outright for his killing. Here in New York City, posters of a cartoon George W. Bush replete with simulated bullet holes began springing up around town.

It was a time when Democratic politicians complained loudly whenever they felt their patriotism was being impugned. In those days, bumper stickers reminded us that “Dissent is the Highest Form of Patriotism” and Nancy Pelosi, the top Democrat in the House of Representatives, declared that disruptive protests were “very American and very important.” Now that protests are directed against a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress, Nancy Pelosi thinks such disruptions are “un-American.”

During the Bush era, the media looked the other way at the extremist element in the protest movement; the large number of protest signs bearing swastikas and mathematical formulae like “Bush=Hitler” just didn’t interest them. But it did interest me, and because the media didn’t want to report it, I did some reporting of my own. The videos I posted online inadvertently launched me on a second career as a documentary filmmaker.

I recently dug through my old footage and found many examples of the same kind of inflammatory speech that the media and the Democratic Party—forgive the redundancy—now decry. What follows are just a few examples."

http://brain-terminal.com/posts/2009...er-comparisons

[jberryhill]

Best line in there:

If the media were doing its job, the LaRouchies would be properly identified so they could receive the derision they deserve.

Ding, ding, ding... give the man a prize. As I pointed out in another thread, the woman who got into the "dining room table" exchange with Barney Frank is a member of the LaRouche Youth Movement. It doesn't matter who is in office - they'll put a Hitler mustache on him/her, because the Larouchies are fundamentally Marxists.

Of course, nothing beats:

Hitler Banned From Xbox Live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkDxF2kn1I

I like this woman....



I'm guessing her mouth is stuck that way because, like her sign says, she has "NO Pubic Option".

[ilovedomains]

Hitler thought blacks were an inferior race and he hated socialists. How can anyone in their wildest dreams think Obama is like Hitler?

Hitler also thought retarded people should be gassed, so why would anyone compare him to Bush?

[Seraphim]

Hitler hated socialists.

Wrong. Hitler advocated national socialism [National Socialist German Workers' Party] over what he thought to be the failure of both capitalism and communism.

[ilovedomains]

Wrong. Hitler advocated national socialism [National Socialist German Workers' Party] over what he thought to be the failure of both capitalism and communism.

Wrong. National socialism (In theory) is a government where a nations industries choose half the governments representatives, and the workers guilds and unions choose the other half. In Germanys version, it was German industries that chose the politicians, and workers just did what they were told or they were thrown in jail.

One of the first things Hitler did when he got in to power was make unions illegal. Hardly the act of of a man who "advocates socialism".


There was nothing socialist about Hitlers Germany. Quite the opposite. It was a Fascist state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
"Unions were abolished and political parties, other than the National Socialists, forbidden."

"he saw democracy as a destabilizing force because it placed power in the hands of, amongst others, ethnic minorities"

"it has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far right"

"all elements in society should be unified through corporatism to form an “Organic State”, "

[Gerry]

I'm guessing her mouth is stuck that way because, like her sign says, she has "NO Pubic Option".

There has got to be a blonde joke somewhere in this...

[Seraphim]

Wrong. National socialism (In theory) is a government where a nations industries choose half the governments representatives, and the workers guilds and unions choose the other half. In Germanys version, it was German industries that chose the politicians, and workers just did what they were told or they were thrown in jail.

One of the first things Hitler did when he got in to power was make unions illegal. Hardly the act of of a man who "advocates socialism".


There was nothing socialist about Hitlers Germany. Quite the opposite. It was a Fascist state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism
"Unions were abolished and political parties, other than the National Socialists, forbidden."

"he saw democracy as a destabilizing force because it placed power in the hands of, amongst others, ethnic minorities"

"it has historically attacked communism, conservatism and parliamentary liberalism, attracting support primarily from the far right"

"all elements in society should be unified through corporatism to form an “Organic State”, "

While you're using apples to defend oranges, why not pull out General Custer, Henry VIII, and the leprechaun from the Lucky Charms cereal box? Although they held widely differing views on what constitutes proper conduct in the context of ancient Roman bathing practices, I am told that they did share a common bond in their love of tomato soup.

And if you recall... I didn't say anything about Nazi Germany, and I sure as hell wouldn't be daft enough to try and categorize Nazi Germany as a purely socialist system of governance. Most people know that Nazi Germany was a mixture of right and left political ideologies, which included soft socialism. So how in the hell could Hitler have "hated socialists", when he himself implemented soft socialist policies? The moral of the story, if you don't like being called to the carpet over an inaccurate blanket statement, then don't post them here in the future.

Cheers...

[ilovedomains]

While you're using apples to defend oranges, why not pull out General Custer, Henry VIII, and the leprechaun from the Lucky Charms cereal box? Although they held widely differing views on what constitutes proper conduct in the context of ancient Roman bathing practices, I am told that they did share a common bond in their love of tomato soup.

And if you recall... I didn't say anything about Nazi Germany, and I sure as hell wouldn't be daft enough to try and categorize Nazi Germany as a purely socialist system of governance. Most people know that Nazi Germany was a mixture of right and left political ideologies, which included soft socialism. So how in the hell could Hitler have "hated socialists", when he himself implemented soft socialist policies? The moral of the story, if you don't like being called to the carpet over an inaccurate blanket statement, then don't post them here in the future.

Cheers...

I was just making a little post with a wisecrack about Bush being a retard. Your the one that wanted to use apples to defend oranges and turn it into a federal case.

Soft socialism? What the hell is that? Abolishing unions? If it will make you feel better I will change it to "Hitler hated communism" just so I dont have to waste my life having this dumb argument.

[PRED]

I was just making a little post with a wisecrack about Bush being a retard.

the only thing you need apologise for is calling a factual statement a wisecrack

[Gerry]

I do not understand the rationale of any comparisons to Hitler that are related to American politics.

The only name that is remotely in the same breath are Phol Pot.

[JMJ]

I would say Obama is a hodgepodge of all the Wacko's. Almost as if he was groomed for the role.

"In October 1917 a Russian revolutionary named Vladimir Lenin, campaigning on the promise of “change,” led his Bolshevik party to victory. Lenin was convinced that redistribution of wealth would “draw heaven down to earth.” As such, Bolshevik bureaucrats in Moscow began printing money, seizing church assets, confiscating private property, nationalizing Russian banks, factories, and farms, and providing a system of socialized medicine.

Indeed, in 1918, Lenin introduced a cradle-to-grave health care system that utterly bankrupted the Soviet economy.

One would think that the utter failure and devastation that ensued in the wake of Lenin's failed socialist experiment would have precluded any other government from following the same foolhardy footprint.

Unfortunately it did not.

In October of 1949 Mao Tse-tung established the People's Republic of China and began a similar socialist experiment (The Great Leap Forward) devastating the Chinese economy and ultimately leading to the starvation and killings of some 50 million Chinese citizens.

The 1984 movie release of The Killing Fields forever memorialized the attempt on the part of Pol Pot and his Khmer Rouge to create the ultimate “brotherhood of man.” The result was measured in economic devastation and millions of deaths. Dr. Jay Richards, social commentator and author of Money, Greed and God, notes an ultimate irony in the movie: Dith Pran escapes the Cambodian killing fields and finds rescue in a Thai Red Cross Station as the lyrics of John Lennon's “Imagine” waft soothingly through the air—Lenin's failed socialist experiment forever immortalized in song.

Says Richards: “Lennon's anthem describes a sort of godless kingdom of God. We're asked to imagine a future ‘brotherhood of man’ where ‘all the people’ live ‘life in peace’ ... a world with ‘no possessions’ where ‘all the people’ share ‘all the world.’”

“Never has an idea had such catastrophic consequences.”

Perhaps an even greater horror in the present is that those who are blithely unaware of history may well be resigned to reliving its horrors. Even now as China is rapidly moving away from socialist economics, Western economies seem bent on an opposite persuasion. Listen closely to the rhetoric of present political power brokers and you will hear both the legislation of Lenin and the lyrics of Lennon wafting through the air.

This brings me to the urgency of writing you today.

While false prophets cry peace and safety (even promising that the greatest of all revivals is right around the corner—spiritual and economic), and while political pundits cry “Imagine there's no Heaven” as they craft a godless utopia on earth, you and I have been faithfully exposing darkness to light.

Socialism in the century past led to economic and spiritual chaos. We know only in principle what will happen in our future as the specter of socialism continues to haunt our own generation."

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/t...d=7390&posts=1


WHO AM I?

I was born in one country, raised in another.

My father was born in another country.

I was not his only child. He fathered several children with numerous women.

I became very close to my mother, as my father showed no interest in me.

My mother died at an early age from cancer.

Later in life, questions arose over my real name.

My birth records were sketchy and no one was able to produce a legitimate, reliable birth certificate.

I grew up practicing one faith but converted to Christianity, as it was widely accepted in my country, but I practiced non-traditional beliefs & didn't follow Christianity, except in the public eye under scrutiny.

I worked and lived among lower-class people as a young adult, disguising myself as someone who really cared about them.

That was before I decided it was time to get serious about my life and I embarked on a new career.

I wrote a book about my struggles growing up. It was clear to those who read my memoirs that I had difficulties accepting that my father abandoned me as a child.

I became active in local politics in my 30's then with help behind the scenes, I literally burst onto the scene as a candidate for national office in my 40s. They said I had a golden tongue and could talk anyone into anything. That reinforced my conceit.

I had a virtually non-existent resume, little work history, and no experience in leading a single organization. Yet I was a powerful speaker and citizens were drawn to me as though I were a magnet and they were small roofing tacks.

I drew incredibly large crowds during my public appearances. This bolstered my ego.

At first, my political campaign focused on my country's foreign policy. I was very critical of my country in the last war and seized every opportunity to bash my country.

But what launched my rise to national prominence were my views on the country's economy. I pretended to have a really good plan on how we could do better and every poor person would be fed & housed for free.

I knew which group was responsible for getting us into this mess. It was the free market, banks & corporations. I decided to start making citizens hate them & if they were envious of others who did well, the plan was clinched tight.

I called mine "A People's Campaign" and that sounded good to all people.

I was the surprise candidate because I emerged from outside the traditional path of politics & was able to gain widespread popular support.

I knew that, if I merely offered the people 'hope' , together we could change our country and the world. So, I started to make my speeches sound like they were on behalf of the downtrodden, poor, ignorant to include "persecuted minorities" like the Jews. My true views were not widely known & I needed to keep them unknown, until after I became my nation's leader.

I had to carefully guard reality, as anybody could have easily found out what I really believed, if they had simply read my writings and examined those people I associated with. I'm glad they didn't.

Then I became the most powerful man in the world. And the world learned the truth.

Who am I?

ADOLF HITLER.

[Seraphim]

I do not understand the rationale of any comparisons to Hitler that are related to American politics.

The only name that is remotely in the same breath are Phol Pot.

Agreed 100%. Hollywood on the other hand takes it 1,000 steps further, and straight sells Hitler and Nazism. It's an annual cash crop. Have you seen previews for this film, Inglourious Basterds? Quentin Tarantino apparently thinks that wrapping Adolf Hitler in fiction, is a great angle on a bloody page of real life history. Lets soil the memory of millions of real life heroes in the mind's eye of our youth, so that we can make a few hundred million in crude profits.

[Gerry]

Quentin Tarantino...

I like his work, especially Pulp Fiction.

I tend to agree with you but it will be left to the consumer to make up his/her mind.

Inglorious Bastards has zilch appeal to me. It may be Tarantino's shot back at Hollywood and a spoof-like movie. Still, seems like a waste of celluloid (now digital) to me.

Although, I think Tarantino is still prefers film person, 35 perhaps.

[Donald Aquilano]

I have decided to stop calling Obama a liberal because he is far worse than that. He is a Socialist in the mold of a Fidel Castro or Hugo Chávez.

Wrong. Hitler advocated national socialism [National Socialist German Workers' Party] over what he thought to be the failure of both capitalism and communism.

Communism and Fascism are two sides of the same coin. Both suppress individual liberties and want to control all aspects of society.

[ilovedomains]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

"Fascism is normally described as "extreme right" although writers on the subject have often found placing it on a conventional left-right political spectrum complex"

There is an ongoing dispute at wikipedia about whether facism is left or right that will probably last another 50 years. I know what my opinion is and cant be bothered arguing about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...edit&section=3