Horrific! African churches denounce kids as ‘witches’

[draggar]

It's Salem Mass in the late 1600s all over again.

What is it people have against Wicca? "Do as you wish as long as you harm none". WTF is wrong with that philosophy?

All a witch is is a Wiccan priestess. I'm sure the world would be far more up in arms if they called all these children nuns, pastors, or even rabbis.

BTW - the term meaning a Wiccan priestess has been around LONG before the "Wicked Witch of the West" stereotype came into existence.

Some of the largest human conflicts in human history, none of which had anything to do with religion. Just the tip of the iceberg obviously. I could sit here all day long and list them...

European Colonization Of The Americas: 100 Million

While a lot of that was for resources they also used it as a front to promote Christianity amongst the natives.

World War II: 60 Million

Are you forgetting the Holocaust? Torturing and murdering people because they were Jewish has nothing to do with religion?

Soviet Communism: 15 Million
(snip)
Russian Civil War: 9 Million

And the destruction of the Russian Orthodox and the murder of millions of their followers?

[Seraphim]

Draggar, the Holocaust, the Russian Civil War, and the Gulag had nothing to do with religion, period. Regarding the Holocaust specifically, Hitler killed 6 million Jews because they weren't Aryan, the same reason why he killed Poles and other Slavic people, Gypsies, etc...

With regard to the Colonization of the Americas, European disease was the main culprit (spread deliberately in many cases), followed by pursuit of land and wealth. European Kings and Queens funded it, and drove it all the way to the bank.

[DomainsInc]

Why such the 'hard on' for religion seraphim? You always seem to be on the defense whenever its blamed for something. Ultimately people are to blame but I've often wondered what the world would be like without invisible dieties to use as a scapegoat for whatever crazy shit they had brewing their noggins.

[Seraphim]

Why such the 'hard on' for religion seraphim? You always seem to be on the defense whenever its blamed for something. Ultimately people are to blame but I've often wondered what the world would be like without invisible dieties to use as a scapegoat for whatever crazy shit they had brewing their noggins.

I confront misinformation against Islam, Communism, Christianity, Global Warming, Capitalism, Atheism... if you're interested in the whole picture that is...

[DomainsInc]

I confront misinformation against Islam, Communism, Christianity, Global Warming, Capitalism, Atheism... if you're interested in the whole picture that is...

I'm all for confronting misinformation. The internet has not only lead to the greatest access for information but also the greatest tool to spread misinformaton.

[Mike Cruz]

Why such the 'hard on' for religion seraphim? You always seem to be on the defense whenever its blamed for something. Ultimately people are to blame but I've often wondered what the world would be like without invisible dieties to use as a scapegoat for whatever crazy shit they had brewing their noggins.

He has seen the world and talked to 'real' Christians, he can't be wrong... and no one else can be right...

No one knows and no one is right, I am not going to deny that, but I am going to stay on the side that has at least a tiny bit of factual proof.

[Seraphim]

I'm all for confronting misinformation. The internet has not only lead to the greatest access for information but also the greatest tool to spread misinformaton.

I agree... I like watching any news or debate topics bounce from person to person on a forum or blog, within that discussion is usually where you'll find the greater truth...

He has seen the world and talked to 'real' Christians, he can't be wrong... and no one else can be right...

No one knows and no one is right, I am not going to deny that, but I am going to stay on the side that has at least a tiny bit of factual proof.

Do you want me to help you come up with something interesting to say? At least creatively insult me, I am investing the time needed to read your posts (for the time being that is)...

[draggar]

Draggar, the Holocaust, the Russian Civil War, and the Gulag had nothing to do with religion, period. Regarding the Holocaust specifically, Hitler killed 6 million Jews because they weren't Aryan, the same reason why he killed Poles and other Slavic people, Gypsies, etc...

With regard to the Colonization of the Americas, European disease was the main culprit (spread deliberately in many cases), followed by pursuit of land and wealth. European Kings and Queens funded it, and drove it all the way to the bank.

Religion played a major factor in all of the above - it may not have been the root cause (or what was blamed as the cause).

If religion had nothing to do with WWII then why were Jews forced to wear a star of David on their clothes marking them as a Jew? Why were people sent to concentration camps just because they were Jewish? There were people who would fall under the "Aryan" but were still sent away.

If religion had nothing to do with European expansion / conquest of the Americas - why did many flee to here from religious oppression and also others use Christianity as their mark as success - forcing the natives to "convert".

If religion had nothing to do with the communist revolution in Russia / Soviet Union then why were Russian Orthodox members driven out and murdered? (And yes, I know someone whose grandparents and great grandparents were driven out of Russia because they were Russian Orthodox).

Religion plays a major role in many of today's (and history's) conflicts regardless if they are the root cause or not.

[Mike Cruz]

I agree... I like watching any news or debate topics bounce from person to person on a forum or blog, within that discussion is usually where you'll find the greater truth...



Do you want me to help you come up with something interesting to say? At least creatively insult me, I am investing the time needed to read your posts (for the time being that is)...

Was thinking the same thing considering you result to "taking stabs" and eventually here will come the insults. Don't get mad because I have no interest in joining in on your beliefs and you can't change my mind. This is also the problem with religions, especially Christianity, if you don't believe your going to hell and are condemned throughout your life and 'after life'.

Religion played a major factor in all of the above - it may not have been the root cause (or what was blamed as the cause).

If religion had nothing to do with WWII then why were Jews forced to wear a star of David on their clothes marking them as a Jew? Why were people sent to concentration camps just because they were Jewish? There were people who would fall under the "Aryan" but were still sent away.

If religion had nothing to do with European expansion / conquest of the Americas - why did many flee to here from religious oppression and also others use Christianity as their mark as success - forcing the natives to "convert".

If religion had nothing to do with the communist revolution in Russia / Soviet Union then why were Russian Orthodox members driven out and murdered? (And yes, I know someone whose grandparents and great grandparents were driven out of Russia because they were Russian Orthodox).

Religion plays a major role in many of today's (and history's) conflicts regardless if they are the root cause or not.

Thank you for going through these points, although I know he will come up with a way to try to discredit this information to continue to try and prove his point. The biggest reason I have been staying out of these threads lately... no one here can be wrong and no one is willing to acknowledge fact so its a waste of time even trying to debate.

[Seraphim]

Religion played a major factor in all of the above - it may not have been the root cause (or what was blamed as the cause).

If religion had nothing to do with WWII then why were Jews forced to wear a star of David on their clothes marking them as a Jew? Why were people sent to concentration camps just because they were Jewish? There were people who would fall under the "Aryan" but were still sent away.

If religion had nothing to do with European expansion / conquest of the Americas - why did many flee to here from religious oppression and also others use Christianity as their mark as success - forcing the natives to "convert".

If religion had nothing to do with the communist revolution in Russia / Soviet Union then why were Russian Orthodox members driven out and murdered? (And yes, I know someone whose grandparents and great grandparents were driven out of Russia because they were Russian Orthodox).

Religion plays a major role in many of today's (and history's) conflicts regardless if they are the root cause or not.

... religion probably played a minor role in the California Gold Rush... what is your point? We're talking about cause for conflict, not what trickled into it's cracks.

And on the subject of Jews. You've never heard of an atheist Jew? I don't have time to walk you through WWII, or the history of Russia. If you think these conflicts were religious in nature, then you have little understanding of history.

[Mike Cruz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvVYYpkyXY

[Adatise]

All religions were outgrown by mankind over 500 years ago. Whether you want to believe it or not, it is a fact. Religion is holding mankind back for control and for our money. There is a God but he is a billion times more powerful than any religion can imagine. Not even aliens on the 9th dimension (billions of years ahead of us) know who he really is and they have told us this. They just know he is real! Soon, aliens and the US government will promulgate these things to the world before the end of the year. Many of these truths, including aliens and UFO's are real. All religions will fail and be shown as bullshit.

The Catholics know this and are saying aliens are probably real now to save face. They were caught hiding the truths red handed. Don't take my word for it. Do a Google search on it and prove it for yourself. I was born, raised, and beat into a good Catholic since I was knee high to a grasshopper. Hell, they (Catholics) have been hiding aliens and the truth for thousands of years. When they dug up the Vatican library recently to rebuild and found numerous alien sculls and bodies under it, the High Catholics didn't say a damn word. I am not predicting this but I heard the US government is planning a tell all truths before the end of the year. I am just saying that 3 black ops intelligence agents with much higher security clearance than the President have told us this. (Whistle blowers). On a scale from 1 to 10 on the universal scale of intelligent life, we only rank a 3 on the scale for intelligence according to all aliens that have told us this.









~Namaste~

Some of the largest human conflicts in human history, none of which had anything to do with religion. Just the tip of the iceberg obviously. I could sit here all day long and list them...

European Colonization Of The Americas: 100 Million
World War II: 60 Million
Mongol Conquests: 60 Million
An Shi Rebellion: 30 Million
Taiping Rebellion: 30 Million
Manchu Conquest: 25 Million
Soviet Communism: 15 Million
Conquests Of Timur: 20 Million
World War I: 25 Million
Holodomor: 10 Million
Russian Civil War: 9 Million
Napoleonic Wars: 6 Million
Yellow Turban Rebellion: 7 Million
Vietnam War: 5 Million
Korean War: 3 Million
Rwandan Genocide: 3 Million

Interesting numbers. I have never seen the death toll from both sides before. They seem a little high but I will assume you have your sources for these numbers and I appreciate the information. I took liberty to memorize them and use them as facts later.

Vietnam War: 5 Million. We sure beat the hell out of them then. I know we lost about 47k to 48k men just shooing from the hip. That was another bullshit war as all wars were. I wonder how many were innocent civilians? I know, we never went into Cambodia and blanket bombed them as our government says, but I wonder how many innocents we killed in Cambodia? We all know we blanket bombed Cambodia to death. Fuk our God damn bullshitting government. I may be a right wing conservative but I agree with the libs about peace and no wars. That alone would be reason enough virtually to switch over to the liberals side, even though they are wrong on most other issues.

Our government still expects us to believe that we never went into Cambodia and blanket bombed the shit out of their innocent country! I know, some fool will now say it is true that we never bombed the fuk out of Cambodia and I am crazy. Oh, and don't forget those millions of land mines we dropped there that are still everywhere in Cambodia that are still blowing up kids everyday! I am American but I think we are a piece of fuking shit for being such bullies. If anyone picks on civilians, especially women and children, I get fuking pissed off and I don't give a rats ass what country or what people they are. I was a professional soldier and had I ever seen any of my colleges kill an innocent civilian, I would have took him out for it! I always take the side of the innocent, especially women and children. We have no God damn right to kill other humans for any fuking reason we deem best. I double dog dare any mother fuker to challenge me on this issue here in DNF or world war 3 will break out here and now in this forum!!! No threat, just a fuking promise!






Love and light
~Namaste~

[Seraphim]

It's terrifying looking over those numbers, and realizing just how large our capacity for violence is. I try not to think about what the future casualty lists will look like.

World War III:
First Large Scale Episode Of Nuclear Fallout:
First Country In Human History To Get Completely Vaporized:
First Nuclear Terrorist Atrocity: