If the EU crumbles what then for .EU domains??

[JMOT]

If the EU collapses will .eu domains become effectively worthless??

Just wondering..

[katherine]

.eu domains are already worthless

[seek99]

still good sales happening at sedo

.eu are ok many end users in the EU buy them.

[Gerry]

still good sales happening at sedo

.eu are ok many end users in the EU buy them.

.eu and the Eu are proving to be a failure.

[elius]

the EU is not the same as the euro and neither is the .eu extension. The EU is a project that started right after WW2 and its succes is not dependent on the monetary union. The euro is just 10 years old and is remarkably succesful for such a young currency. Too bad it lacked sound monetary policy and members ignored the rules that were in place. EU and .eu will be succesful or unsuccesful independent of the current euro issues.

[Gerry]

the EU is not the same as the euro and neither is the .eu extension. The EU is a project that started right after WW2 and its succes is not dependent on the monetary union. The euro is just 10 years old and is remarkably succesful for such a young currency. Too bad it lacked sound monetary policy and members ignored the rules that were in place. EU and .eu will be succesful or unsuccesful independent of the current euro issues.

I know the .eu is not the same as the euro and is not the same as the EU. But if you had any doubts about fracturing a continent, just let the euro crumble. With that goes the credibility and cooperation amongst nations forming the EU.

The .eu has zilch credibility because of the debacle around sunrise and landrush period.

[katherine]

The other problem with .eu is the lack of relevance.
The European landscape is dominated by local extensions.
.eu makes sense for pan-European entities mostly. But the EU isn't exactly popular, who wants to be associated with the EU through the .eu TLD ?

[Dale Hubbard]

The .eu extension never had (other than transient speculation), nor will have any value. It's a dead zone, monetarily screwed, and the laughing stock of fiscally prudent economies. Thank God the UK wasn't dragged into it. Mind you, only because a referendum was required, otherwise that goofy Cameron and Brown would have dragged us in :(

[elius]

sure, dissolving the euro monetary zone would be a serious blow to the EU as a whole but it wouldn't be its end. The EU is deeply engrained in every members' government and economy. It is basically a confederacy in denial of its true nature. Anyway, I don't believe anybody will be better of without the euro or the EU. Especially the Brits should stop dwelling in the past. Its empire is long gone, its influence in the world is dwindling fast. If they want to keep having a say in world politics, the EU is the only way.

The .eu extension seems to be one of those products put on the market in the hope it will create it's own demand. Still, it may proof to be useful for businesses aiming at the european market as a whole. At this point, there are just too many uncertainties.

I know the .eu is not the same as the euro and is not the same as the EU. But if you had any doubts about fracturing a continent, just let the euro crumble. With that goes the credibility and cooperation amongst nations forming the EU.

The .eu has zilch credibility because of the debacle around sunrise and landrush period.

[jasdon11]

sure, dissolving the euro monetary zone would be a serious blow to the EU as a whole but it wouldn't be its end. The EU is deeply engrained in every members' government and economy. It is basically a confederacy in denial of its true nature. Anyway, I don't believe anybody will be better of without the euro or the EU. Especially the Brits should stop dwelling in the past. Your empire is long gone, your influence in the world is dwindling fast. If you want to keep having a say in world politics the EU is the only way.

As a Brit, I'm quite happy to be at arms length to the EU at the moment. Not joining the € has been a blessing - I just wish I'd bought some property in the South of France when we were getting €1.55 to the £.

As for our Empire being long gone - I think we know that - no empire lasts forever. Anyway, you guys should be happy - we are a net contributor to the EU; always have been.

[Bill Roy]

Elius, excuse me, what was that, "Especially the Brits should stop dwelling in the past. Your empire is long gone, your influence in the world is dwindling fast.", this from someone in a country that has not been able to defend itself successfully for hundreds of years! Let us see now, this idea that the EU is engrained in members governments, yes this is true, that is why we - the British - want out, we do not see why Greeks should bankrupt Germans, why Italians should pass laws concerning Poles, why Hungarians should set fishing quotas, why Austrians should decide Dutch immigration laws, why any country can tell any other country what they may call their foods, why we should send money to inflate the Dutch economy by paying for brothels used by Euro MPs and bureaucrats, indeed why any country would want its own laws concocted by peoples from another country.

The .eu is indeed a pan-European domain, but just like the EU and Euro it is a system built on the false premise that an entity exists that is recognised as beneficial, which it is not. The .eu does have 'some' value, but the dreamed of ubiquitous uptake has been shown to be nothing other than a futile wish based upon an idealistic ideological fantasy by those who dream of utopian ideals where all are controlled in an Orwellian nightmarish 1984 slave society. The corrupt nature of the EU is beyond belief.

As for the repercussions for the demise of the Euro having no benefits for anyone I would suggest you ask the German people at the moment, after all they are the ones who are having to work over a decade longer than the Greeks and now pay the Greeks their pensions. But of course I forgot, that isn't how the EU or Euro works is it, after all when a country holds a referendum and they vote against the EU just ignores that result and demands yet another vote until they get their (EU) way. Just goes to show what a democratic ideal underlies the corruption at both its heart and its foundations.

Elius, your post reminds me of a story I used to be told as a child, it concerned a young Dutch boy seeing a hole in the dyke and putting his finger in to try and stop a flood. The problem is that the EU is meaningless politically, socially, and what is worse is it is about to become meaningless financially because of the Euro fiasco. And as for the dyke, it isn't a hole in it but mighty gorges with water rushing through that all the Europhiles fingers and toes together can now not block-up.

[RobM]

Interesting comment about referendums. Remind me again how many UK have held.......

[elius]

the story is just a story, Hansje Brinker never existed. I have no illusions about the role of my country in world affairs and GB shouldn't have it either. If the Brits didn't want to be a part of the EU they shouldn't have joined. Leaving it when the ride gets a little bumpy doesn't show much character. The whole maybe yes, maybe no response to any problem in the EU is what's making its policy setting progress so slow and created the democratic deficiency. A referendum is not creating democracy, its politicians trying to run away from their responsibilities.

[RobM]

oh and to answer the original question .eu were pretty much worthless before the crisis I doubt this can have any impact on their value.

[Bill Roy]

RobM, the exact number is '1', singular, and that was to join the EEC (European Economic Community), we have though been PROMISED by all three of the main parties referendums since, but none, I repeat NONE, have kept their word.

If a referendum was held on the EU here in the UK most would vote to leave according to all the polls. I hope no one misunderstands, most people in the UK do not have any objection to a Europe without trade barriers, but 'we' are absolutely against the EU.

If I may just make one last comment to Elius, we know we do not have an empire, it is only idiots who cannot understand that we realise this that resort to trying to mask their lack of coherent argument by bringing this up. It is a bit like during a debate when someone starts shouting and insulting those arguing against their point of view, it is at this point you KNOW they have lost the debate.
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Edited addition.

In reply to your post above (#12):

"If the Brits didn't want to be a part of the EU they shouldn't have joined. Leaving it when the ride gets a little bumpy doesn't show much character. The whole maybe yes, maybe no response to any problem in the EU is what's making its policy setting progress so slow and created the democratic deficiency. A referendum is not creating democracy, its politicians trying to run away from their responsibilities."

Please note we did not want to join the EU. As for 'much character' hells bells, you are really losing this argument, now trying to shame us with meaningless character attacks. I am sorry but you are laughable because you are not even very good at what you attempt to do.

[RobM]

It's comments like 'we did not want to join' that undermine any argument.
The electorate expressed significant support for EEC membership, with 67% in favour on a 65% turnout. Or are you ignoring democratic process?

[elius]

that's hardly a character attack. Calling people idiots and laughable on the other hand is. GB is part of the EU if you like it or not. Unfortunately, GB policitians even more than most other national politicians, blame everything that goes wrong on the EU. If you want the open market, you need to accept that there are certain rules for it and those rules need some form of a bureaucray, in other words; the EU. The whole empire remark was pointing to exactely that, GB politicians pretending GB can still do it all on its own.
I love GB and Brits but I really hate that half-heartedly approach to Europe. You're part of it, whether you like it or not. People can swim from the continent to your island you know? It's really not that far away.

Long live the EU, long live dot eu!

[Bill Roy]

RobM, as you clearly state, as do I the referendum was to join the EEC and not the EU, therefore unless you do not understand the difference you will realise that these are two 'different' things. So the fact is that the British public were never given the opportunity to vote on joining the EU, therefore your point is without credit and therefore false.

Elius, saying someone or some people show a 'lack of character' is an attack, and those who think that British people think we are still at the heart of an empire are indeed 'idiots', and indeed you are 'laughable' because you do both of these.

[elius]

it's not your thoughts I'm considering but the actions of GB in the EU and it's has always been eurosceptic. These actions prove to me a lack of insight in the current state of the world and GB's role in it. I believe it's a lingering attachment to former empire. This is hardly an idiotic viewpoint, it happens all the time. When big power shifts occur. it takes decades for the balance of power to take hold in the minds of the people.

I tried to point out that you cannot have your cake (the single market) and eat it too (some form of bureaucracy). And why should governments hold a referendum? You and I life in a representative democracy. That means you vote for someone too make your decisions for you and then you vote again and fire them if you didn't like what they did. Referendums would make policy making virtual impossible.

[Bill Roy]

Elius, I take it you are amongst the 38.46% who voted in favour of the EU in the 2005 Dutch referendum and not the 61.54% who voted AGAINST it. Your stance against referendum would seem to support this assumption.

It is strange that in posts above you point out the problem is the EU involves too many people having their say on policy and also say that the problem is it is too bureaucratic, which would you like to choose and identify as the major problem of the two. Should the EU be 'run' by bureaucrats and thus become even less democratic by having fewer people 'have their say' or should it become less bureaucratic and be more democratic with elected members running it? (I wonder how the people of Holland would vote now?)

I must agree with you that we are lucky in that we live in democracies, but your country held a 'consultative' referendum (the results of which your politicians ignored) and my country the politicians promised referendums but have been shown to have lied to us by not giving us the referendum promised (because they know the likely result). Holding a referendum would not make policy making decisions virtually impossible, what it would do is make policy more accountable to the peoples wishes and desires.

I will be back later and continue the discussion, in the meantime back to work for me, after all I have an Empire to build!