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Old 10-22-2008, 11:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry if Obama get elected - how long will he be blaming bush?

If Obama get elected - how long will he be blaming bush?

Does he ever take responsibility?

For the last two years Democrats are in control of the senate and they continue to blame bush but no one else!

If elected will he continues to do it until his two terms?
 Will it stop then or Michelle Obama’s two terms are needed as well?

How much responsibility does the senate has? (if they have any at all)
What did they do for the last two years and what can we expect from them?
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I agree Stock post, the Senate should have taken responsibility and impeached Bush.

As to your question about how long will President Obama blame Bush, I would say until he and a philibuster proof Senate put right the almighty mess that Bush has created. (Mind you it is not all Bush's fault - Cheney has as much to do with it as Bush.)

And the change that Gregcyber talks about is real when the Democrats are in power. Affordable health care, affordable study, new jobs, and oh yes that little thing that isn't mentioned much by the Republicans - respect for the Constitution of the United States of America.
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If Obama becomes president, expect change.

What change? well, you and I dont know, what little Obama does say is just to hard to believe. Free money for the poor something stinks.
What would you rather see happen? Helping the people of your own country, or pay Haliburton et al $billions each day for their fireworks display?

"Shock and awe..." - shock that their con worked so well, and awe at the amounts of cash they've made out of it.

Anyone been brought to book over the $15billion cash that went missing in Iraq? No? Why not? We're talking truck loads of cash - gone, forgotten, brushed under the carpet; someone's got it. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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Irregardless, I believe we will not see a recovery for at least 6 years to some sort of sense of normalcy.

The coffers have been depleted to the point of exhausted. This nation is in a deep deep hole and can not help itself let alone others.

The idea of troop withdrawal in 16 months is great. But that does not fix the economy nor mend the broken foreign policy fences.

Energy independence is a long way down the road. While the automakers have some say and the oil lobbyists are greasing the palms of the legislators, don't count on it.

Global warming, whether man made or not, is a factor that has long been ignored and the clock is ticking. This administration has done very little to protect the nations natural resources and environment let alone its native animal species.

And as for regional issues, I can not believe that we STILL have Katrina victims living in trailers unfit and unmade for continuous habitation.

None of these issues will be corrected or back to a respectable state within the first four years of any administration. Common sense tells me it will take eight years to undo what has been done the past eight years. But I am giving the next president and the American people the benefit of the doubt and saying 5-6 years before we start to erase the memory of bush.
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How will there be new jobs if the creators of jobs, small business, will be laying off people to pay for increased taxes?

Oh, you mean new "governmental" jobs? right?



To answer the original posters answers:
Bush will be blamed until the completion of at least the '12 presidency.
Obama can't take blame for anything, he didn't do anything, except sponsor the "end world hunger via the American Taxpayer" bill.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=56405

of course he will keep blaming Bush his entire presidency.

The Senate did nothing over the last two years, except the "World hunger thing"
The senate has no responsibility, at least not to us, the public. They do have major responsibilities to their financial supporters.
Look where the presidential candidates come from, most are senators.
Of course the Senate will continue to do what ever they want, they are all millionaires.
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How will there be new jobs if the creators of jobs, small business, will be laying off people to pay for increased taxes?
Seems we are already doing that. Unemployment at 6.1% nationally and expected to reach 7.5% shortly.

Merill Lynch to lay off thousands in the BofA buyout and Chyrsler will be slashed BIG TIME (nearly 35,000 employees) when the deal with GM goes thru.
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How will there be new jobs if the creators of jobs, small business, will be laying off people to pay for increased taxes?

Oh, you mean new "governmental" jobs? right?
How many small business do you know that make over $250,000 a year in PROFIT? Even those who do, will only see a 3% increase. Thats if this tax plan even passes through congress.
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The collapse of Lehman Bros, buyout of Bear Stearns will also add tens of thousands to the numbers that have not been counted yet.
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Obama's plan to tax the hell out of business will lead to high inflation, Whatever Tax Obama imposes on business is going to be passed onto the consumer.... We pay no matter what.

If elected, Will Obama take responsibility for high inflation and the deep recession he will put us in? Of course not.... He will keep blaming the Republicans so he can re-elected to a 2nd term.... Which will never happen.
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Obama's plan to tax the hell out of business will lead to high inflation, Whatever Tax Obama imposes on business is going to be passed onto the consumer.... We pay no matter what.

If elected, Will Obama take responsibility for high inflation and the deep recession he will put us in? Of course not.... He will keep blaming the Republicans so he can re-elected to a 2nd term.... Which will never happen.
Soooo, basically what you're saying is we aren't in a deep recession? Everything's all peachy-keen on the homefront eh?
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The Change refers to a change in attitude in every American. Change towards how people eat, how they exercise. How they drive, how they litter. How they perceive each other's footprint and how they work towards a common goal. That's the Change - from the divisive, nepotist, selfish, fearful, mistrusting and overweight society that we have become. It's not a political move, it's a change in society's role and function. No nation is perfect but we have become a shadow of what we used to be.
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Can I get some opinions on my question please?

How long will he be blaming bush and when will he start taking responsibility?

if you have no fu*ing clue (like if you are in my boat) you may say that, no other BS please.
(I only see him running against Bush)
I never saw him talking about Senate responsibility.

So, will he need 4 years or 8 years or 8 for him + 8 for his wife?
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Can I get some opinions on my question please?

How long will he be blaming bush
From the day he is sworn in, IF he is.


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and when will he start taking responsibility?
Never, It will be 4 years of blaming Bush and

"I'm doing the best I can"

and

"If you listen to my campaign speeches, I made NO promises"
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On the topic of the economy, most probably 2-3 years (to start seeing the upturn).

On international relations, most probably less than a year (the US will be perceived immediately in a better light by over 90% of the world when Obama becomes President.)

Health care most probably 2-4 years (depending on law and reform of insurance industry)

On apologising for the misuse of the office of President by Bush - NEVER!
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Soooo, basically what you're saying is we aren't in a deep recession? Everything's all peachy-keen on the homefront eh?
I'm feeling all warm and fuzzy all over, how about you?

Sounds to me like the blame and rhetoric is already beginning for 2012.

Call it defeatism.
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From the day he is sworn in, IF he is.




Never, It will be 4 years of blaming Bush and

"I'm doing the best I can"

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"If you listen to my campaign speeches, I made NO promises"
And this from the woman who's trying to lay the blame for every bad thing at the feet of the Democrats NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And this from the woman who's trying to lay the blame for every bad thing at the feet of the Democrats NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not everything, Just 911 and doing nothing for 8 years when America was repeatedly attacked.

Nice try Jas
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Can I get some opinions on my question please?

How long will he be blaming bush and when will he start taking responsibility?

if you have no fu*ing clue (like if you are in my boat) you may say that, no other BS please.
(I only see him running against Bush)
I never saw him talking about Senate responsibility.

So, will he need 4 years or 8 years or 8 for him + 8 for his wife?
It took less than 3 years under Dubya to undo 8 years of financial stability that Bill Clinton delivered, having himself inherited 4 years of a George Bush Sr. mess. So do your own math.
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