Israel minister feared UK arrest

**PRED** · 10-05-2009, 09:00 AM

Nice to know these women and child murderers are at least not sleeping in their beds that comfortably.
Next up we need to stop Blair and Bush globetrotting, although Blair has the cheek of going for the EU Presidency, which he may well get

. Probably exempted from arrest as well if he gets that.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8290554.stm

More people waking up to this and more pressure is a good thang

**tristanperry** · 10-05-2009, 09:21 AM

"women and child murderers"

Hmm okay then.

Because it's not like Hamas, Hezbollah et al have done anything wrong.

I.e. the recent war was started when Hamas fired 350+ rockets into Israel in a week. Half-way through the attacks Israel said stop else they'd attack.

Hamas didn't stop, hence Israel attacked. Seems fair enough to me. Either Hamas forgot to read that 'note' from Israel, or they wanted Israel to attack. I wonder which. Then after a cease-fire deal was reached, Hamas broken it 48 hours later by trying to kill Israeli children, women and men. Funny how you don't mention that?

Plus Hezbollah use their own citizens as Human shields.

*shrugs*

Not defending what Israel have done (which is clearly wrong at times; other times it's justified since Israel have said they'll attack but yet the rocket attacks keep coming), but it's completely biased to suggest that it's unprovoked. Given the chance Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran would do a lot more than 'minor' citizen attacks, I'm sure.

And what has Blair done which is war-crime-esque-wrong, exactly?

**PRED** · 10-05-2009, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by tristanperry

"women and child murderers"

Hmm okay then.

Because it's not like Hamas, Hezbollah et al have done anything wrong.

I.e. the recent war was started when Hamas fired 350+ rockets into Israel in a week. Half-way through the attacks Israel said stop else they'd attack.

Hamas didn't stop, hence Israel attacked. Seems fair enough to me. Either Hamas forgot to read that 'note' from Israel, or they wanted Israel to attack. I wonder which. Then after a cease-fire deal was reached, Hamas broken it 48 hours later by trying to kill Israeli children, women and men. Funny how you don't mention that?

Plus Hezbollah use their own citizens as Human shields.

*shrugs*

Not defending what Israel have done (which is clearly wrong at times; other times it's justified since Israel have said they'll attack but yet the rocket attacks keep coming), but it's completely biased to suggest that it's unprovoked. Given the chance Hamas, Hezbollah and Iran would do a lot more than 'minor' citizen attacks, I'm sure.

im not saying just one side is right and have no probs with terrorists being taken out, but if theyre such tough guys why not send in a crack unit of israeli special forces to take him out. dropping a 'smart bomb'

in a residential area and killing kids and women who are innocent is not what i call ok. if you feel you can turn a blind eye then please do.
as far as human shileds, i know this practice goes on, thats where special forces go in. or should.
dropping a bomb like that is not only cowardly and morally abhorrent , it also solves nothing.
if these downtrodden people are not motivated enough, what happens when you have nothing apart from your kids in life and that is cruelly taken away from you like this. that childs family will make it their lifes quest to avenge it, the ones that aren't broken mentally and physically by it

think about it. really think.

Originally Posted by tristanperry

And what has Blair done which is war-crime-esque-wrong, exactly?

i dont have a spare month Tristan, you either aren't up on current affairs or you're having me on

**tristanperry** · 10-05-2009, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by PRED

im not saying just one side is right and have no probs with terrorists being taken out, but if theyre such tough guys why not send in a crack unit of israeli special forces to take him out. dropping a 'smart bomb'

in a residential area and killing kids and women who are innocent is not what i call ok. if you feel you can turn a blind eye then please do.
as far as human shileds, i know this practice goes on, thats where special forces go in. or should.
dropping a bomb like that is not only cowardly and morally abhorrent , it also solves nothing.
if these downtrodden people are not motivated enough, what happens when you have nothing apart from your kids in life and that is cruelly taken away from you like this. that childs family will make it their lifes quest to avenge it, the ones that aren't broken mentally and physically by it

think about it. really think.

Where did I deny any of that?

I quite agree that the situation is awful and that Israel have committed crimes, just like their neighbours.

IMO the situation is FUBARed. Talk of a peace process is crap. The situation will only get worse, IMO, and unfortunately civilians from both sides will suffer.

Neither side, IMO, care much for the welfare of the other side and both are in the wrong. Of course, Israel usually only strikes when it gets attacked, hence it is IMO a case that Hezbollah and Hamas attack Israel knowing full well that it'll create a war.

Hezbollah and Hamas care much less for its own citizens than Israel does. This much seems clear.

But I'm straying somewhat off-topic. I'm not defending some of the Israeli actions (merely saying that Hezbollah/Hamas/Iran seem a heck of a lot worse, but yet people only seem to 'moan' about Israel)

Originally Posted by PRED

i dont have a spare month Tristan, you either aren't up on current affairs or you're having me on

I'm up to current affairs and can't think of how Blair has committed war crimes (at least, after discounting conspiracy theories). Even a couple of words will do.

Edit: Oh sorry, didn't realise you simply meant Blair going for EU President. Yes, there was a lot of talk about that when the Lisbon Treaty was first moving ahead just after Blair left office. The recent news on this is in-fact old news.

**Gerry** · 10-05-2009, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by PRED

Next up we need to stop Blair and Bush globetrotting, although Blair has the cheek of going for the EU Presidency, which he may well get

. Probably exempted from arrest as well if he gets that.

I heard the news about Blair's desiring the position yesterday. I immediately began to wonder about the credibility issues he may have with other EU nations.

For that matter, it seems every head of state over there in the US has some sort of credibility issue.

Speaking of credibility...I am positive you will not be seeing Dubya acting as any sort of good-will ambassador. He probably doesn't feel very safe leaving his ranch in TX.

**stock_post** · 10-05-2009, 10:58 AM

some people don't change..
For every issue that is out there, they keep blaming the same people.

No discussion can go fair.. All have to clerical to the same end (I like to see a fair discussion)

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 01:46 PM

This is just the beginning. As Sharia Law slowly forces old Britannia on to it's knees, soon you'll get to see politicians and adulterers alike stoned in the streets.

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-05-2009, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

This is just the beginning. As Sharia Law slowly forces old Britannia on to it's knees, soon you'll get to see politicians and adulterers alike stoned in the streets.

Can you be more specific? Like perhaps my urethritis? Come on -- tell me you're serious!

**tristanperry** · 10-05-2009, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

This is just the beginning. As Sharia Law slowly forces old Britannia on to it's knees, soon you'll get to see politicians and adulterers alike stoned in the streets.

Always great to read a nice, open baiting post lmao

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 02:13 PM

A guy can't joke about an ultra radical fringe element of society anymore?

**tristanperry** · 10-05-2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

A guy can't joke about an ultra radical fringe element of society anymore?

Of course you can, it's all good

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by tristanperry

Of course you can, it's all good

We're still allowed to roast the KKK here in the States. Next time I'll be sure and stick within the limits of bad teeth, the Queen, and tea...

**tristanperry** · 10-05-2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

We're still allowed to roast the KKK here in the States. Next time I'll be sure and stick within the limits of bad teeth, the Queen, and tea...

Lmao

That sounds good.

But avoid comments about the Queen's dodgy haircuts, we take serious offence to that (just kidding

)

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by tristanperry

Lmao

That sounds good.

But avoid comments about the Queen's dodgy haircuts, we take serious offence to that (just kidding

)

Duly noted Sir. I'll will just assume that provision also covers the hairline of both Prince William and Jude Law. If come this time next Monday Dale still has cause to throw his urethritis at me, then I'm taking the UK completely off of my joke map.

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-05-2009, 03:34 PM

My urethritis may be non-specific - just like your stupid commentary.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...q=non-specific

The game is to understand what your commenting about.

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by aZooZa

My urethritis may be non-specific - just like your stupid commentary.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourc...q=non-specific

The game is to understand what your commenting about.

It's 8:37pm in the UK right now, shouldn't you be piss drunk, missing a shoe, and lying in a ditch somewhere?

**Dale Hubbard** · 10-05-2009, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

It's 8:37pm in the UK right now, shouldn't you be piss drunk, missing a shoe, and lying in a ditch somewhere?

No, you nauseating pretender, I'm right here with you. I *know* you, you 'orrible oink. So go stick it in your lughole along with your political and radical religious affiiations.

**Seraphim** · 10-05-2009, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by aZooZa

No, you nauseating pretender, I'm right here with you. I *know* you, you 'orrible oink. So go stick it in your lughole along with your political and radical religious affiiations.

I'm a pretender? You've got your MENSA score in your profile, and I'm a pretender? Come on now Dale...