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Yes, They used his clothes as a straght jacket for someone who desperately needs it.Originally Posted by jasdon11
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The ones from FOXnews with the screaming, maniacal, whiney commentator are the best. Great entertainment.Of course....then it would be 'proof' and I wouldn't have to actually think...
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Yes, They used his clothes as a straght jacket for someone who desperately needs it.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
If you've given up trying to defend the indefensible Raider, just say so....everyone is aware of the, frankly, very poor attempts to deflect attention away from the topic.
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Sashas you and i both know perfectly that Pakistan and India are traditional enemies because Pakistan is in fact a breakaway region of India in fact eve if some of us are friends don't want bad things to happen but the people controlling the high posts in both countries do so its like war 24/7 just recently India stopped Punjab's water so it makes the situation worse because what the govt here sees is India trying to pressure Pakistan but what you see as the terrorist problem is also man made and did not just sprung up in Pakistan in a few days or months it has been there for years before USA sent them money to fight against Russia and why did they fight against Russia because they wanted to takeover Afghanistan and now they USA is doing the same and they have turned against them i mean most of them want the USA out of Afghanistan and Iraq and they encourage others to help them so we have to look at the root of problem why is it there !
just out of context but...
damn, that was hard to read with no punctuation and invisible full stops
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Your keen and in depth grasp of the political realities in your world just begs me to scream this rather benign question.
How many millions in your country think like you do?
I know not, which one is scarier? Lack of punctuation in your statement or my question preceding this sentence!
Either way, it is scary indeed.
well i was just in a hurry but it is not as hard to read something written in chat slang like thisjust out of context but...
damn, that was hard to read with no punctuation and invisible full stops
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Well yes most people here tend to keep an eye on politics but most of them just believe what the politicians normally say only a few try to see the reality behind those PR stunts. even if someone like me knows the reality i cant really go on and change it , if i don't have the right contacts and the right amount of money i think its same everywhere
In all honesty, I don't care if Pakistan and India are "traditional" enemies (honestly, how can they be "traditional" enemies if they've been separated for just 61 years? Isn't tradition something much, much older?). I've been really, really pissed off with all the terror attacks.
I'm from Jaipur and was about 500m from the place in Jaipur where they blasted half a dozen bombs and killed over 100 people. Some of the shops I regularly go to, some of the shopkeepers I've bought from were dead. Seeing that sucks, big time.
And then in Delhi, the place where I hang out almost every weekend is bombed off, and I was on my way to that place (just about 10 minutes away, in fact) when the bombs went off.
The worst part is that its not scary; it has only made me a whole lot angrier about the whole situation
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Pakistan and India are not compatible. And for the people who think this is simply about 61 years of separation, please get real.
The reality is that the entire subcontinent was Muslim ruled for 800 years before British arrival. Democracy enabled the majority Hindu population to become more powerful in the government, and the Muslims simply didnt want to experience revenge by Hindus which the British promoted during their occupation. Please read some books about Colonialism. Sikhs and Muslims were treated like absolute trash by the British because they fought back.
Hence the 5 Muslim majority states in the North West of South Asia became Pakistan (+Bengal). If India is a continuation of British India, then Pakistan is a continuation of the Mughal Empire. This is why there are such hard feeling about Kashmir. Both sides believe Kashmir is an integral part of their identity.
I am sorry to say this, but Pakistanis have suffered from Terrorism far worse. For us, this didnt start in 2001. This started in the 80s when the CIA created Taliban, and left them for us to deal with. There are certain rules about making enemies at your door step, so its wrong to expect Pakistan to start killing 'terrorists' indiscriminately. Fair enough, if anyone could find the people actually responsible for 9.11, they should be dealt with. But the current American policy targets everyone minus the people who actually carried out 9.11.
Some propoganda to keep the war machine greased - if I lived in Northern Pakistan, I'd be worrying....
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7728551.stm
Notice how these CIA press releases convey the image of something to you without giving any facts. For a guy they haven't seen for years, they sure pretend to know a lot about him....
It's all 'probablies' and 'could be's' but to the gullible amongst us it could sound like they are actually telling us something.
I like the last lines about this guy being picked by Bush himself, and whether or not Obama will retain him. If he does or he doesn't, it will tell us a lot.
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Not making excuses for Obama, but during transitions many key positions are carried over until suitable person(s) are designated.
This is especially true in key security positions involving intel and law enforcement such as FBI Director and CIA post. All of this has been so complicated since 9-11 and the creation of Homeland Security. This is the only administration to have these issues and posts to deal with.
Sometimes slow going is a better approach than putting the wrong person in such sensitive posts.
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Where are you getting your facts from man? This is pure non sense. I grew up learning the Mughal empire. 800 Years? Please!
India was always Hindu. For thousands of years. Mughal invasion by the Persians did not occur until the 15th century. It barely lasted a little over 300 years.
You have no clue why Pakistan was formed. Jinnah wanted to become Prime Minister. Nehru did not oblige. There is more. But I don't want to discuss this here. Please stop acting like a historian, when you have little clue about Indian history. The British did not set sail to find Pakistan. Neither did Columbus. Kashmir was historically Hindu (Kashmiri Pundits) for thousands of years. There were hundreds of temples in Kashmir before a single mosque was built. Most places in Kashmir have Hindu named origins. It's mythology and history is Hindu. Until the Mughals invaded India.
Except for 1 man - Jinnah, (The Muslim League) no one (Including the British) wanted Pakistan. And this is a fact.
hahah you are just starting a flaming war which i don't want to participate in the biggest Lie in your thread is Jinah wanted to be the PM ???like Pakistan has nothing to do with the hindu extremists and Sikhs brutalities , my grandmother came to Pakistan on a train and she told me that in front of here eyes Sikhs stabbed a guy then pulled out his liver and intestine with his hands. and all of this when Pakistan's independence was announced and still British and Hindus got together and removed a few Muslims areas from the map that went into Pakistan, Muslims fought for Pakistan because there was no future for them in the mainly British and Hindu driven India they had no freedom. oh btw and the Mughals didn't force everyone to become Muslims you can still check the records everyone was treated equally there were traders from the Arab worlds too who settled in India and thats why Islam spread not because of Mughals invaded and forced everyone to become Muslim , you cant force it upon them !
History and facts cannot be ignored. Brutality occurred on both sides. The truth is, the Independence movement started more than a few decades before partition. Regardless of Hindus and Muslims fighting for it, there was no aspirations of Muslims fighting for Pakistan until the last minute. Muslims did not fight for Pakistan. Read the history books. Pakistan was a last minute forced entity. A clear case of blackmailing upon the nation. And what freedom are your talking about. That is a Himalayan sized lie.
Keep in mind, more Muslims remained in India than left for a so called Pakistan. If your argument that Muslims wanted a separate homeland was true, a good majority would have left. Large numbers started migrating mostly due to law and order situation and fled for safety from rioters to be in the safety of a Muslim majority.
Go ask those Muslims who remained in India, why they didn't leave?
It was about "Power" my friend. Those ignorant uneducated fools didn't know any better. Now that you have it, you can argue for it.
Whatever man, you Muslims must first learn to live in peace. Your excuses of external influence does not fly anymore. Long as you Muslims exist, the world will always be in turmoil.
Nothing against Pakistanis though. You gotta understand how a tiny minority of people create mischief and the rest have to suffer for it.
Peace.
Muhajeens became Taliban
Years ago I was talking to the Indian scholar in London.
Here's his take:
60 years ago Russia allied itself with India, and US ended up with Pakistan.
In high politics it's called the spheres of influence. The Brits became irrelevant.
There are probably some good & bad reasons for the split.
Russia distrusts the Muslims & it runs very deep. Actually, I have to correct myself. Russia distrusts everybody, but especially Muslims. The irony, of course, is that it has a large Muslim population and Moscow is one of the largest cities with Muslim population of 2 million.
Now, the Soviets wanted to install the commies in Afganistan.
The US, not to be outdone, finds allies to fight the Russians. The friend No. 1 is Osama Bin Laden. The US trains and equips his forces, which at the time were called Muhajeens. Muhajeens got tons of ammunition, including the Shoulder-launched missiles. All 300 of them. Later Osama sold 100 missiles to Iran, and Iran used them to shoot the American planes.
Years later Muhajeens became Taliban.
And that's where we're now.
To be con'd
hhaha but what you are trying to do is mix the truth and lies and place your own theory , last minute entry is how you describe a decade or more of struggle i can understand if you are an Indian and want this to be explained this way those Muslims who didn't leave was because all there families were here and were forced to live through the partition , the idea of Pakistan started in 1930 by allama iqbal , and jinah was in indian congress first to help get independence for all of india but then when he saw that muslims were gonna be in the same situation as under the British so he left the indian congress and joined the all India muslim league. and also i forgot before the mughals in 712 Muhammad bin qasim invaded sindh and punjab.and if u read Gandhi also offered hi seat of PM if he left the idea of Pakistan ! or is that not included in the history books you read ? and also i think people didn't listen to gandhi in the end he had some good ideas but people didnt follow him ? did they
i dont know about the russian part might be true but what i know is that these taleban, mujahideen and OSAM BIN LADEN
especially is the brainchild of CIA.
Last edited by Ehsan; 11-15-2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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We get ourselves the low life as new friends. We throw money their way.
And later they kick us in the arse
well dont know but i think you pay them to kick ur arse lol !
No, they didn't. The "They" were future Pakistanis.
You should stop writing anymore. You are as ignorant as they come.i dont know about the russian part might be true but what i know is that these taleban, mujahideen and OSAM BIN LADEN
especially is the brainchild of CIA.
first of all you claim you know about our history more than us ,but i think you first better learn your own American govt is not a barbie doll angel who are the good cop ! you think they cant do anything bad because they are your govt ! people will go to extreme lengths for power and money !
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