Jewish settler’s attack Palestinians on film

**TheLegendaryJP** · 06-14-2008, 01:37 PM

I am not taking sides but I know for every action there is a reaction.

The conflict is far to complex to not see both sides of the arguement but the way in which it is handled ( through violence ) is not right. Many people in many countries have been displaced via war, that's life, fair or not. You would almost think someone would say enough people have died that it isnt worth it anymore.

**PRED** · 06-14-2008, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by bd77

We went into Iraq to remove Saddam Hussein. Removing him helps defend my country.

This is hilarious. I'm going to step out of any discussion here and just crack open my popcorn.
Even the halfwit bush and his most ardent fans don't even utter this crap anymore let alone believe it. Simply hilarious.

**Donald Aquilano** · 06-14-2008, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by PREDATOR

This is hilarious. I'm going to step out of any discussion here and just crack open my popcorn.
Even the halfwit bush and his most ardent fans don't even utter this crap anymore let alone believe it. Simply hilarious.

Laugh all you want. Who said I was a big Bush fan? I agree with some of what he has done but not everything. There were two reasons to go into Iraq.

1: WMD, not found but there was plenty of infrastructure found that would have been easy to build more in a short period of time.

2: Saddam Hussein

Reasons liberals believe we went in.

1: Revenge by George W. Bush for the failed assassination attempted on his fathers life.

2: To steal Saddam's oil.

**Seraphim** · 06-14-2008, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by bd77

2: To Steal Saddam's Oil. This Is Funny Because The Us Doesn't Even Use The Type Of Oil Iraq Has.

Hahahahahha!

**Ehsan** · 06-14-2008, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by bd77

Laugh all you want. Who said I was a big Bush fan? I agree with some of what he has done but not everything. There were two reasons to go into Iraq.

1: WMD, not found but there was plenty of infrastructure found that would have been easy to build more in a short period of time.

2: Saddam Hussein

Reasons liberals believe we went in.

1: Revenge by George W. Bush for the failed assassination attempted on his fathers life.

2: To steal Saddam's oil. This is funny because the US doesn't even use the type of oil Iraq has.

First of all can i ask where are you getting this info , from the PR Office of Bush or what ?

1. Show me what infrastructure to build WMD's you found proof

2. Saddam Hussein : = what ? why not go for North Korea or China ?

you would shit your pants thinking o N.Korea or China because they really do have weapons and they will use them.
3. and about the Oil i wonder what kinda of oil you use if you don't use Iraqi Oil may be Oil extracted from Human Bodies thats why you are killing so many people there.

**Banned: theinvestor** · 06-14-2008, 06:11 PM

LOL!!!

Iraqi oil doesn't work in North america guys....didn't you know that

**Ehsan** · 06-14-2008, 06:16 PM

so whats the plan may be invade Europe next , will there oil work ?

**Seraphim** · 06-14-2008, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Ehsan

so whats the plan may be invade Europe next , will there oil work ?

US cars only run on tea tree oil, so it's likely we'll head down to Australia and start some sh!t there.

**Donald Aquilano** · 06-14-2008, 06:47 PM

I read once that Iraq has a type of oil that is used mostly in Europe. Since I can't find the article on it I retract that part of my statement for now.

**HomerJ** · 06-15-2008, 12:32 AM

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/media/net-report.html

**Banned: theinvestor** · 06-15-2008, 12:39 AM

That's a great link Homer.

Thanks for showing us this...i already knew the media was bias regarding Palestinians. But at least now everyone else can see.

**whitebark** · 06-15-2008, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by theinvestor

LOL!!!

Iraqi oil doesn't work in North america guys....didn't you know that

Didn't you hear Ford, Chevy and GM being domestic only run on domestic oil. It's a built in anti-terror device.

**HomerJ** · 06-15-2008, 01:48 AM

Originally Posted by theinvestor

That's a great link Homer.

Thanks for showing us this...i already knew the media was bias regarding Palestinians. But at least now everyone else can see.

yes and the bar graphs make it easier to see.

if the media were accurate, then in 2004 they would have had to report 22 Palestinian children being murdered for every one Israeli child. Then the public perception might be starkly different.

all loss of life is sad. but this is not just a problem of Israel and Palistine. this is a major problem that the media is constantly distorting the prism that we look to get a picture of reality.

**Banned: theinvestor** · 06-15-2008, 01:54 AM

I agree with you Homer. But you were smart enough to dig up the info and figure out the truth. I would hope others are capable of doing the same.

**WebsiteTraders.Com** · 06-15-2008, 02:32 AM

do u guys know y the US is Israel's Ally by the way?

**whitebark** · 06-15-2008, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by farhan713

do u guys know y the US is Israel's Ally by the way?

There is no definitive answer to that question. There are many reasons but mostly imo boils down to two. America needs an ally in the region that they can always count on. Countries like Egypt and Jordan have swung between the Russian/Soviet sphere and the American, and can always swing away again if the circumstances are right, but Israel has a special relationship with the US and has never left their side. They have done things America has regretted/disapproved of, but in the end America needs them just as much.

It is also well documented that the highest reaches of the US government before and during WW2 knew what was happening/going to happen in Europe to the Jews/Gypsies etc but when given the opportunity to offer refuge they, like many Western nations simply left them to their ends. Even at the height of the war when the opportunity presented itself to bomb the camps they never did. And many believe to this day that because of the guilt they felt, they can never again allow the Jews to go it alone.

Add in the influence of the evangelicals in consecutive US administrations and we have what we have today.

**tetrapak** · 06-15-2008, 05:56 AM

The conflict is really way more complex then to take sides, just as Legendary said. I just wanted to point out one thing about the murdered children. IDF has no children, they are at least 18 years old or more. Hamas uses children in many cases. My friends at Shabak / IDF have witnessed multiple cases when the bomb was attached on the belts of teenagers. Sad but true, and whether they are equipped with guns / bombs, they still are children and count in statistics. Hence, even the statistics are distorted.

**Seraphim** · 06-15-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by TheLegendaryJP

I am not taking sides but I know for every action there is a reaction.

The conflict is far to complex to not see both sides of the arguement but the way in which it is handled ( through violence ) is not right. Many people in many countries have been displaced via war, that's life, fair or not. You would almost think someone would say enough people have died that it isnt worth it anymore.

Which part of the illegal occupation is too complex for you to understand? Is it the Gaza blockades, the continual annexation of Palestinian owned land, the illegal settlements in the West Bank, the West Bank barrier perhaps? How about the constant demolition of homes and key infrastructure? Maybe it's the 40 to 1 death toll, the majority of which happen to be Palestinian civilians? I also suppose the constant stream of condemnation of Israel by the UN, most of Europe, the Red Cross, Amnesty International, and numerous other credible organizations, is all meaningless left wing propaganda, or neo antisemitism? And that's just scratching the contemporary surface of the reality, heaven forbid you start digging deeper into the history of the conflict, where you're guaranteed to trip over documented massacres, and other war crimes committed by Israel throughout it's brief history [in both Palestine and Lebanon, the USS Liberty, etc.].

What was the main reason the terrorists gave for attacking New York City and the Pentagon on September 11, 2001? If you don't remember, search for that answer and get back to me. You're Canadian, so your hard earned tax dollars aren't supplying Israel with weapons and aid, so it's understandable that you aren't pressed to clearly investigate a well documented conflict. The credibility of the United States, my country, is soiled over this issue.

**WebsiteTraders.Com** · 06-15-2008, 10:33 AM

i'll put it simple for all of you ...if u guys want to take the truth...n if u go by the media......that been influencing our opinion on this topic since many years.......thats ur wish,
the US economy is in trouble read Robert Kiyosaki's Financial IQ at richdad.com for proof from US own reputed financial experts,
the rest of it is reading between the lines.......i know people on this Forum are smart enough......that hint is enough

**Donald Aquilano** · 06-16-2008, 05:42 PM

It just amazes me how many people on this forum have bought into the leftwing propaganda of how evil Israel is. Its shameful but not surprising to me. I think I'm going to start donating money to organizations who's goal is to help Israeli families in need.