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Register Today on DNForum IT'S FREE!Just got a call from the RNC.
They are conducting a telephone poll.
If the elections were held today, who would you vote for?
1. Mike Huckabee
2. Mitt Romney
3. Newt Gingrich
4. Sarah Palin
5. Re-elect Obama
6. Someone else not listed
I selected number 6.
I won't agree or disagree but I want to know what my choices are. That is why I choose number 6. The other's listed in name do not do a thing for me and they did not excite me at all in 2007 and 2008. The fact that McCain chose number 4 as a running mate made myself and many GOPer's run for the exit door.
From now until November 2012 it is going to be batshit crazy all over the airwaves and media (as if it were not already).
I'll see if I can retrieve the phone number off my phone. It was a 1-877 (edit - actually 866)number and registered as Toll Free Svc. I rarely, rarely pick up the phone on these but I was right there when it rang and wanted to tell whoever it was not to call back.
Surprise, surprise.
i thought you would pick #5
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Good choice - too bad many people would feel that picking that choice would be wasting their vote, as they do in the official elections. :(
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That's what many would think.
To say that I am totally happy is wrong.
I think Obama is too soft on many issues and priorities.
At the same time, to all those people out there that b*tch, whine, kick, and cry about government interference? Well, then don't tell someone you want to pay less taxes, create or find a job for you or your family member, impose trade sanctions and tarriffs on foreign goods, earn more money, drive an american made car, have a retirement package, get social security, get medicare or any type of medical car, send your kids to college, want to keep tax - I say go f*ck yourself because that is EXACTLY what you are doing - asking and begging the government to interfere and get involved to make your life as comfortable and worry free as possible without having to lift a finger to help or pay for any services.
Every one wants something for nothing but to get anything, something is going to be sacrificed. If people can not compromise and see all facets to an issue, if people can not work together, and if people feel they have to represent the party rather than the people, then f*ck those elected officials.
I am not for the Dems, I am not for the GOP, I am not for the Tea Party.
I am for practicality and I do not see this happening at all.
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18665962773 is the number I got off my caller ID.
I think the RNC is in a state of panic. The Republicans know there is a small window left to find a solid candidate who can build momentum leading up to the elections. The best thing they can do is back anyone but Sarah Palin. I could care less about Republican politics but what about Rick Perry from Texas? I don't know what he's done for Texas. It seems the folks there love him though.
Perry claims he is not interested.
Lets not kid anyone. Palin is running. Period.
This has been decidede (by her) shortly after the last election and prior to quitting as Governor.
Herein lies the problem, which spells doom for the GOP:
Palin is not and never will be the front runner for the GOP. She is not the de facto candidate simply because of her popularity and crowd pull.
But, the GOP knows it has to harness that popularity and pull. Somehow they have to be able to incorporate Palin into their Plans. However, that backfired big time in 2008 - having her on the ticket.
So, does the GOP put her on the ticket or not? The answer is, they have to! The GOP has its balls caught in a solid gold vice grip and it can not pull them out. Because if the GOP does not include Palin on their ticket, Palin will run as a third party candidate. This will split the ticket much like Perot did.
Here is that balls in the vice grip moment; if the GOP includes her on the ticket in some way or if she runs as an independent 3rd party cadidate, the GOP loses in 2012.
Someone in power or by any means necessary needs to tell Palin now (pay her and her family off, bribes, or whatever it takes) needs to tell her to back out and stand down. The GOP is scared shitless about this scenario and knows this is exactly what is shaping up. And those that do not admit seeing it are just plain stupid, clueless, and just don't get it. Anyone who has studied or been involved in politics for any amount of time knows this is precisely happening right now! Even mama Bush (Barbara Bush) sees this and has essentially spoken for the entire GOP when she stated, "She seems very happy in Alaska." but then adds, "I hope she'll stay there."
Right now, as far as I know the US does not have a front person like the Queen of England. Perhaps the GOP could appoint her as Queen or Head of Public Relations.
Otherwise, if things stay the way they are shaping up to be - put her on the GOP ticket or else she runs as a third Party - either option spells doom for the GOP in 2012 and hands Obama the victory by even larger % than in 2008.
I would have asked them why they are still refusing to give any credit or acknowledgment of the only sane member of the RNC - Ron Paul. That they would consider Grinch or Palin says all you need to know about the state of politics in America.
The GOP is in a fix alright. More than ever the Republicans are going to need the independent votes come 2012. The independents pay close attention to candidates and don't care for partisan politics. Their numbers have been growing annually and will continue to as America grapples with the changing times. Can Palin appeal to this group? I doubt it. And that's where the real war for votes will be in 2012.
This is just too much for me to remain silent on, The Hypocrisy from this crumb is almost sickening;
Really? I don't think their was one time you indicated Obama was soft on anything, not for the past 2 years on this forum at least...
Suddenly Doc want's all of us to believe he's "objective", something he's NEVER once displayed when discussing Obama's reckless and destructive policies.
Here you show your true stupidity, Both of these work hand and hand... Government does NOT create jobs, LESS Government Regulation and LESS Taxes result in the creation of jobs.
You appear CLUELESS to the fact that Tax payers PAY into Social Security and Medicare, it's deducted from every workers paycheck, Each and everyone of us is FORCED to pay into it, we don't have a choice. So to say we don't have a right to b*tch, whine, kick, and cry about government interference for something were FORCED to PAY into, shows once again how f*cking stupid you are.
The only people in this Country I see asking the Government to interfere and get involved in our lives is Democrats, People like YOU, People like H2FC, People like HasRob, People like Whitebark and Zurc.net, It's people like these who beg Government to interfere, Beg for HealthCare, Beg for Welfare, Beg for Climate Legislation, Beg for granting amnesty to Million of illegal aliens, Begging for everything under the sun that GROWS the size of Government. Do they complain and b*tch about it? of course not, because most of you want or expect "THE GREEDY RICH" (as you call them) to PAY for it. And if it does end up costing you, you usually b*tch about it when the Bill comes.
Oh NO, your not for the Dems at all, you just fought tooth and nail for every policy decision that came out of the White House since Jan 2009, that's all... ROFLMAO!
I don't think your fooling anyone here by denying your a Liberal, that post by stock_post shows what a Liberal imprint you made on this Forum.... The Democratic party is NO longer the party of Democrats, it's the party of LIBERALS who call themselves Democrats, and you my little forum troll are one of them.
Speak for yourself.... Sure their are many in this country that are dependent on Government and not always by choice, But their are also a great many who are NOT and I'm one of those people, I come from a Country that doesn't have welfare, Theirs not an office we can walk into with no money and walk out with a $1000 debt card, only in America. I think the only thing I ask or expect from the Federal Government is to protect the Homeland, and for that I'm glad to pay my share of income taxes for that. Now personally? I cant think of one thing I would ever ask the Government for OTHER than the two funds that I'm (again) FORCED to pay into.
Not everyone is like you Doc, their are millions of people in this country who are self reliant and don't need or want anything the Federal Government is offering.... Many of us can afford to put our kids through College, and the ones who cant usually get a loan, not always a Government loan.
This welfare mentality of helping everyone under the sun and boosting the public sector is what's destroying this Country and are the primary reasons were 14 TRILLION Dollars in the hole...
And I'm not blaming one president or one party, I'm blaming ALL of the bastards in Washington D.C., Bastards who have allowed more money to go out than we have coming in.[COLOR="red"]
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I'm surprised #5 is on the list at all.. That's almost like asking a patient in the emergency room; "Do you want us to pour more salt on your wound?"
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Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Talk about desperate lol > www.thepartyofno.com
None of the listed republicans are electable, This is coming from a diehard Republican
No, and they weren't the last time around either and thats why Obama's the president now. I'm a registered republican and I would like to vote republican but they will have to make some big changes by moving more toward the middle AND run someone who is acceptable to the common people.
They will also have to quit lying about the truth of manmade globalwarming before I will ever vote for them again. A lot of people don't realize how important this issue is. Obama never would have been elected without the MMGW believers vote.
Wasn't it the independent votes that were part of a historic event this month when they tossed out 60 Democrats in the house and 8 in the Senate?
As long as Obama is Prez and Pelosi and Reid are the leaders of their party, I figure Republicans are going to pick a hell of a lot more seats in 2012.
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Newt has some baggage but I think it can be overcome... He's definitely the smartest of the bunch.
If we can elect a community organizer who associates himself with crooks and terrorists and has no experience, anything is possible.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
I would vote Palin. I am going to throw all of my support, including financial, behind Palin - then vote for Obama in the general election.
Why? Because if she gets the nomination it will be a slam dunk victory for Obama. No campaign will be good enough to suffer the damage she will do to herself when she starts debating Obama on national TV. And nobody will be able to vote for her after seeing what a retard she is in those debates.
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6.
Christie / Rubio anyone?
Or.. Christie / Jindal ~ Jindal / Christie
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Jindal claims he will not run but will not turn down a call for him to step in.
Christie I think blew it for many american people. He lost the Republican nod in Florida and ran as an independent. Just like Murkowski. Sorry, but these are sore losers who just simply can not take defeat. If someone else got more votes than you, then you lose. Yet, these two were not willing to accept defeat and ran despite what the people sent as a message - you're out.
Rubio is fresh but can he carry the entire GOP would be the question. Irregardless, the GOP needs to change its stance on many issues facing America. Saying no, no, no is not productive. Splitting the party and splitting the vote is self destruct.
Other names I have seen tossed around is Pence and Barbour. I like Haley Barbour for what he did for the people of Mississippi immediately after Katrina. All the focus was on New Orleans. Yet, actual land fall was smackdab in Bay St.Louis Mississippi - where many of my family lives. When the Gov of Mississippi was saying no to all the outside help, Barbour was saying, Hell yes! Medical people, search and rescue, power utility folks were on the ground and working long before the 5 day old rescue in N.O. Barbour did not wait for Bush, FEMA, Brown or anyone else. The whole Katrina matter was so mismanaged and mishandled from before the storm, during, and after. Ask the people along coastal Miss. what they think of Barbour. Ask the entire state what they think of Barbour after the deadly tornadoes hit earlier this year. Barbour is old school, do it yourself and get it done. The downside is that he is "old school" within the good ol boy system of getting things done. And because he is a strong minded and independent type person and says what's on his mind, it is when he speaks that creates problems. You have to remember, he is a deep south, deep southern mindset and has made some very inflammatory statements in regards to race(s).
But the main point is I want to see more. None on that list impresses me. McCain wiped his ass with the money those same people spent to run against him. It does not matter if you agree with this statement or not, but Sarah Palin is a primary factor why McCain lost. He had several months and millions of dollars to run for the presidency and sit back and enjoy watching Hillary Clinton and Barack battle it out to the very end, exhausting their money coffers and their supporters. McCain had a huge advantage of not having to spend any money and planning and strategy to the Nov election. Why in the hell, after all those months of planning, did he choose a dunce like Palin is beyond me and anyone else who has watched politics. He blew his chances and drove off many GOP voters with the stupidity show by his selection and by the VP candidate.
Christie from NJ I believe.
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