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    Lies of Obama

    When it comes to lying Obama makes George Bush look like a saint.......

    * During his campaign for the presidency and since, Obama repeatedly assured us that he would protect Medicare against cuts; but he now presses for passage of bills that include savage cuts in Medicare.

    * To obtain passage of his first stimulus bill, Obama assured us that 90% of the jobs created would be in the private sector; but as he well knew, most of them were to be in the public sector.

    * Early in the health care debate, Obama assured us that he had not said that he favored a single payer system; but he was on record as having said exactly that.

    * Obama gave primary voters a firm assurance that if he became the nominee of the Democratic party he would (unlike Hillary Clinton) abide by the campaign finance limits of public funding; but as soon as he became the party’s nominee, he reneged on that pledge.

    * During the presidential campaign Obama criticized the presence of former lobbyists in the Bush administration and solemnly assured us that he would appoint no lobbyists to his administration; but once elected he proceeded to appoint even more lobbyists than his predecessors.

    * Obama criticized the size of George Bush’s deficit and promised to stop deficit spending if elected; but he has already quadrupled the size of the deficit he objected to and recklessly continues new federal spending in the trillions.

    * When campaigning Obama criticized bills before the congress that were too long for anyone to be able to read and promised to stop that; but the bills he has been backing throughout his first year are infinitely longer (2000+ pages) than the ones he criticized.

    * Candidate Obama promised an end to the corruption of earmarks and pork, but in the bills he has supported this year there have been more and bigger earmarks than ever before.

    * Candidate Obama promised us that CIA personnel involved in the interrogation of terrorists would not be prosecuted; but his administration is now doing exactly that.

    * Obama assured a joint session of Congress that the health bill he supported (pre-Stupak) would not provide public funding for abortions; but bitter resistance on the part of House Democrats to inclusion of language to that effect soon proved that it did.

    * Candidate Obama promised that he would make sure that there was always enough time for the public to read legislation before it was enacted; but he has done exactly the opposite, repeatedly pressing for even faster passage of even longer bills.

    * Candidate Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising, emphatically and repeatedly, that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.

    * Candidate Obama promised bipartisanship and an end to partisan bickering; but in a display of especially ruthless partisanship his allies have shut Republicans out of all key meetings on his health care initiative, with the unprecedented result that domestic legislation of historic importance garnered not a single Republican vote in the Senate.

    * Candidate Obama criticized his opponent’s plan to tax employer paid healthcare benefits, and promised he would not tax them; but the bill he now backs will do just that.

    * Obama had promised that he would not sign a healthcare bill that would add one dime to the federal deficit; but the bill he now backs adds trillions in new federal spending, offset only by new sources of revenue that are both uncertain and more properly seen as offsetting the already existing deficit.

    * Obama coerced congress into passing his stimulus bill by promising that if it were passed unemployment could go no higher then 8%; but unemployment is now at 10%, and he could not possibly have had good reason to exclude that possibility.

    * Obama promised that his cap and trade legislation will create jobs; but its massive tax increases will certainly hobble the economy and destroy jobs, while green jobs in significant numbers can at best be hoped for, but never promised.

    * Obama has repeatedly assured the American people that if they like their current health plan they can keep it; but the House bill which he supported created huge incentives for employers to drop their coverage and shift their members to a public option.

    * Obama has just as often assured the public that under his health plan everyone will be able to keep their current doctor; but many are certain to lose their doctors when ObamaCare’s large cuts in Medicare funding induce more doctors to withdraw from Medicare coverage, as they also would were employers to transfer patients to a public option to save money.

    * Obama assured a joint session of Congress that his health plan would not fund illegal aliens; but his allies had been busy voting down amendments to that effect. (This was the point of Joe Wilson’s outburst.)

    * Obama claimed that Caterpillar’s CEO had told him that Caterpillar would begin hiring again as a result of the stimulus bill; but that individual immediately announced that he had said no such thing, and that Caterpillar would in fact be laying off more workers.

    * Candidate Obama promised that Guantanamo would be closed by January 1, 2010; but it is still open.

    * Candidate Obama promised that his administration (unlike his predecessor’s) would be so transparent that TV cameras (C-Span) would be there for key deliberations; but an unprecedented level of secrecy prevails as the final stages of Obamacare are negotiated behind closed doors and kept so secret that even the Senate majority whip admitted that he had no idea what was going on. Requests for Obama to honor the promise of C-Span cameras are being ignored.

    * To gain traction for his attempt to return a would-be socialist dictator in Honduras to power, Obama claimed that he had been overthrown in an illegal coup; but the congressional research service pointed out correctly that ex-President Zelaya had been removed for constitutionally sufficient cause by legal and constitutional means.

    * Obama claims that he wants a public option only to increase choice and competition; but the House bill would clearly reduce choice both by squeezing unsubsidized private health plans out of the market, and by setting rigid conditions on acceptable plans that would narrow available options.

    * Candidate Obama claimed that violent radical Bill Ayers was just another guy in his neighborhood; but the record shows that the two had worked closely together.

    * Obama assured us that his stimulus bill would create or save a million jobs; but he was claiming as fact what could never have been more than a wild (and highly improbable) guess, and his more recent attempts to justify that guess have been fraudulent.

    * Obama assured us that his health plan would never ration care, or “pull the plug” on grandma; but the legislation he backs sets up panels to make crucial decisions on when to withhold care, and it makes such deep cuts in Medicare that rationing is inevitable.

    * Obama now assures us that health insurance premiums will not go up if ObamaCare becomes law, insisting indignantly that people who say this have not read the bill; but the legislation forces insurers to cover preexisting conditions, which will compel them to raise premiums substantially.

    Source: http://frontpagemag.com/2010/01/21/lies-of-obama/


    If you wish to add any that I missed by all means post away......

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    Show me a politician at the national level who doesn't lie.

    The higher up they go, the less in touch with us they get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    * Candidate Obama met fears that he would be a tax and spend liberal by promising, emphatically and repeatedly, that those earning under $200,000 would see no increase in their taxes of any kind; but he now urges passage of a healthcare bill that breaks that pledge in many different ways, and his unrestrained increase in federal spending makes more tax increases inevitable.
    He broke that promise back in March of last year, by imposing one of the highest taxes on tobacco in US History. Obama must think that only people making over $200,000 smoke cigarettes.

    Obama's own words;

    "I can make a firm pledge" "Under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes."

    "you will not see any of your taxes increase one single dime."

    "Listen now, I will cut taxes for 95 percent of all working families, because, in an economy like this, the last thing we should do is raise taxes on the middle class."


    He made similar promises when he spoke before a special session of Congress about Health Care.... Like were all supposed to believe him after he repeatedly LIES to us.


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    Fogot Iraq?

    When are you racist ........ gong to stop this harrasment of the president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVI View Post
    When are you racist ........ gong to stop this harrasment of the president?
    I don't know how it is in Canada, but as a citizen of the US, I have the right under the first amendment to reject what our President is doing, and I'll be damn if I'm going to self censor myself for you or anybody else.

    And I wouldn't be calling people you don't know the "R" word, it just makes you foolish.


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    Quote Originally Posted by NVI View Post
    When are you racist ........ gong to stop this harrasment of the president?
    They're not harrassing the president....what they're doing is making a feeble attempt to harrass the ones who support the president. I don't agree with everything Obama does but he's a Saint compared to the one he replaced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    They're not harrassing the president....what they're doing is making a feeble attempt to harrass the ones who support the president. I don't agree with everything Obama does but he's a Saint compared to the one he replaced.
    How can we harrass you dumbocrats if you dont participate in the thread? You see H2FC, it's all by choice, If you want to join in and support a President who's bankrupting this great country and lying to the American people in a "feable" attempt to make him look good, your going to get what's coming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    Show me a politician at the national level who doesn't lie.

    The higher up they go, the less in touch with us they get.
    Very true but Obama has taken it to a new level. He knew he wouldn't be able to keep certain promises and still went ahead and lied about it anyway. I sometimes think he really believes that he is smarter than everyone else. I guess he thought no one would catch on

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    They're not harrassing the president....what they're doing is making a feeble attempt to harrass the ones who support the president. I don't agree with everything Obama does but he's a Saint compared to the one he replaced.
    There is nothing feeble about the facts. I don't know how you can support a president who has gone back on his word on just about everything. Please grow some balls and admit that he is no different than any other politician.

    ---------- Post added at 10:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by NVI View Post
    When are you racist ........ gong to stop this harrasment of the president?
    So if I'm critical about Obama I'm a racist? Did you apply this logic when minorities criticized Bush? Nope didn't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    There is nothing feeble about the facts. I don't know how you can support a president who has gone back on his word on just about everything. Please grow some balls and admit that he is no different than any other politician.
    H2FC supports anyone who tells him what he wants to hear..... Wasn't it Obama who failed to deliver at the Climate summit in Copenhagen? and wasn't it Obama who promised Global Warming legislation? The likelihood of that passing now appears nearly impossible at this point considering the state of the economy... So what has this President done for H2FC and all the other Global Warming fanatics? other than tell them what they want to hear?

    Come to think of it Don, I don't know of one major reform Obama has delivered in the one year he's been in office, Banking, Healthcare, Energy and Climate Change is pretty much the status quo.... And he's had the Democratic majority in congress to get it done, Obama has had nothing holding him back accept himself and his party. If Obama doesn't get at least one of his major reforms through before the 2010 elections, Obama will be serving the remainder of his term as a lame duck, with nothing to show for it... Except of course a mountain of debt our Children and Grandchildren will have to pay for.


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    A 3 post racist, wow!

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    You have a new president taking office. You then have a blow hard right wing talk show host saying " I want him to fail" Is that right?

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    It depends upon your political afilliation. If you beleve in smaller government, free markets, strong defense and tough foreign policy it makes sense. If you believe in more Centralized power, government resposibility for the week etc., then it doesn't.

    No elected official in any Democracy gets free trips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NVI View Post
    You have a new president taking office. You then have a blow hard right wing talk show host saying " I want him to fail" Is that right?
    What does this have to do with you using the race card on members you dont even know? And for the record, Rush never said he wants Obama to fail, he said he wants his "Policies" to fail, so get your facts straight OK?


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    Mr Rightwing,

    I was a little harsh with my comments. I am a conservative and do believe that the president is spending too much. I also believe he should get rid of a lot of people around him. I also believe he is not as left wing as some may think. With two growing daughters I am sure of that from my own experience

    His father was a very conservative man and so was his grandmother. That said, if you saw some of the signs being carried by the Tea Party Expressers, I have read a lot of your postings and you seem rather fair and upfront and you too would be upset also whether you are a conservative of liberal. Regardless of your political leanings he is still the president of a great country so give the man some respect.

    I liked George Bush and still do,including some of his policies. I certainly would not call him a racist in any way whatsoever. I think he made the right decision in going to Afghanistan. The reason is that no one should be able to take aircrafts with innocent people in them,
    crash them into a building with the lost of thousands of lives and get away with it. Iraq is a different story. That money spent in IraQ was wasted.

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    Here's another LIE you can add to your list Don, When President Obama LIED to the Nation and before the Supreme Court about the recent Scotus Ruling;

    Obama said in his State of the Union Address;

    “Last week, the Supreme Court reversed a century of law to open the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections,” Obama said. “Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities. They should be decided by the American people, and that’s why I’m urging Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to right this wrong.”

    As most of you know, this was followed by Justice Alito uttering the words "Not True"


    Bradley Smith, Professor of law at the Capital University Law School, wrote;


    "Tonight the president engaged in demogoguery of the worst kind, when he claimed that last week’s Supreme Court decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections. Well I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities.”

    The president’s statement is false.

    "The Court held that 2 U.S.C. Section 441a, which prohibits all corporate political spending, is unconstitutional. Foreign nationals, specifically defined to include foreign corporations, are prohibiting from making “a contribution or donation of money or ather thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State or local election” under 2 U.S.C. Section 441e, which was not at issue in the case. Foreign corporations are also prohibited, under 2 U.S.C. 441e, from making any contribution or donation to any committee of any political party, and they prohibited from making any “expenditure, independent expenditure, or disbursement for an electioneering communication.”

    This is either blithering ignorance of the law or demagoguery of the worst kind

    ----------------------------------------

    Randy Barnett from the Georgetown University School of law weighs in.

    "In the history of the State of the Union has any President ever called out the Supreme Court by name, and egged on the Congress to jeer a Supreme Court decision, while the Justices were seated politely before him surrounded by hundreds Congressmen? To call upon the Congress to countermand (somehow) by statute a constitutional decision, indeed a decision applying the First Amendment? What can this possibly accomplish besides alienating Justice Kennedy who wrote the opinion being attacked. Contrary to what we heard during the last administration, the Court may certainly be the object of presidential criticism without posing any threat to its independence. But this was a truly shocking lack of decorum and disrespect towards the Supreme Court for which an apology is in order. A new tone indeed."


    More >>>> http://www.thepoliticalfish.com/2010...-of-the-union/
    Last edited by Raider; 02-07-2010 at 11:14 AM.


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