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    McCain to get less than 100 Electoral College votes in Novemeber GE

    Well as things stack up it seems that McCain will be heading for a total hammering in Novemeber, some within the Republican Party are now even thinking that McCain could end up getting less than 100 Electoral College votes in total, with the best hope being near 150 votes.

    It seems clear that the next States to turn blue on the RCP 'No Toss-up Map'
    will include Florida (27 ECV), Missouri (11 ECV), and North Carolina (15 ECV). Even Texas (34 ECV), the home of the Bush dynasty, is now causing the Republicans worries.

    It could be the internal polling being carried out by the Republican Party machinary that has led to McCain going so negative so early on in the campaign, and to think McCain promised that he would not use negative tactics!

    Well with the Hilton empire (big backers of McCain) now flamming at the the use of photos of Paris Hilton in the latest negaative attack on Obama it would seem that the Republicans are now trying anything to try and smear Obama, being popular is now a sin according to them! Logic here according to the Republican Party must be that Americans should elect an unpopular person to be President, if that logic were followed through it would certainly mean that McCain would win hands down!

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    I'm trying to figure out who the media likes. I think they are still mad about Obama getting the nod but they do not want McCain. IMO this would sway a lot of people.
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    I don't like both candidates who do I vote now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    I'm trying to figure out who the media likes. I think they are still mad about Obama getting the nod but they do not want McCain. IMO this would sway a lot of people.
    My opinion, CNN was very much pro Clinton, and are making a slow migration towards being cautiously semi-pro Obama, with a side order of uncertainty [is he pro Israel enough?]. CBS was and is very pro Obama. Fox News is obviously pro McCain. The New York Times was very pro Clinton, but quickly shifted towards being pro Obama, once it was discovered Clinton was being taking to court by a long list of unpaid NY vendors whom she used during her election campaign. Reuters and the BBC seem semi-pro Obama, but attempt to give equal air time to both candidates. Haaretz is semi-pro McCain for now, but are tempted to switch over to pro Obama [they are still investigating whether or not he's a closet Palestinian sympathizer]. Outside of the United States, Israel, and the UK, no one knows who McCain is, particularly the media. The American antiwar media hates both candidates already, but will spend the next 47.3 years publishing materials exclusively on George Bush regardless [someone laced the weed with PCP apparently].

    Oh forgot to mention, the Japanese absolutely love Obama, because his last name is a small town in Japan.

    My 2 cents...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    The American antiwar media hates both candidates already, but will spend the next 47.3 years publishing materials exclusively on George Bush regardless [someone laced the weed with PCP apparently].
    LOL

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    I think it's way to early to speculate who's going to win.. The debates can turn this whole thing around, Right now it's just a big popularity contest..... Like Obama giving away free concert tickets to draw in the young crowd to his events, and the media sucking it all up.


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    Just a big popularity contest! That is brilliant! This is an election, who should people vote for?

    Surely the idea is they vote for the one they like, the most popular one wins!

    Or are the Republicans so used to having such an unpopular President they think the way to win is by having an unpopular candidate!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLBO View Post


    Just a big popularity contest! That is brilliant! This is an election, who should people vote for?

    Surely the idea is they vote for the one they like, the most popular one wins!

    Or are the Republicans so used to having such an unpopular President they think the way to win is by having an unpopular candidate!
    She obviously meant "buzz popularity", as in "pre-fight buzz". Both candidates haven't even touched gloves yet, they're still standing in their underwear about to be weighed in. To be more precise, McCain is picking his scrotum up off the floor and tucking it back into his briefs, while Obama stands flexing his 3" diameter biceps.
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    How many non wasp presidents have we had? I wouldnt take action on Obama winning with a gun to my head
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    This McCain Fan Club is trying hard to get McCain more votes by Nov.

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    It's very hard to believe that the GOP or the McCain admin actually has solutions to the critical problems facing our Country when they spend all their time/energy creating and talking about what they want you to think is wrong with Barak Obama.

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    I think those of us who can think for themselves and are UN-influenced by BigOil, BigBiz, and Bush and his clones can easily see what McCain is trying to do with his negative and untrue Obama ads.

    I believe those ads will do more harm to McCain than they do to Obama. McCain and his advisors will learn the American people are not as dumb as they apparently think they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    I'm trying to figure out who the media likes. I think they are still mad about Obama getting the nod but they do not want McCain. IMO this would sway a lot of people.
    The media has always been behind Obama. Just look at MSNBC they can't get enough of him. Same goes for NBC,CBS and ABC. Most of the main stream media is very liberal so they see Obama as an extension of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Poker View Post
    It's very hard to believe that the GOP or the McCain admin actually has solutions to the critical problems facing our Country when they spend all their time/energy creating and talking about what they want you to think is wrong with Barak Obama.
    I guess you don't notice the attack ads against McCain? In politics both sides launch attack ads at each other. Its no different here and it will get a lot worse before the November election. Don't just blame the GOP both sides are equally to blame.
    Last edited by Donald Aquilano; 08-01-2008 at 07:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Perhaps McC is not a bad guy. But he's been kissing the Dark Vader's butt for way too long.
    And lets' see, his German wife is worth what, $6 Billion?
    Sure, he understands the working folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphim View Post
    To be more precise, McCain is picking his scrotum up off the floor and tucking it back into his briefs,

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    I'm voting for McCain

    Primarily because I think he is prepared to nuke Iran, if need be

    Obama wil talk to the devils in Tehran until they inevitably bomb Israel - Obama is a naive fool

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77
    The media has always been behind Obama. Just look at MSNBC they can't get enough of him.
    Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough hammer Obama frequently on MSNBC, almost every Repub guest they have on does the same as they regurgitate their party's tired talking points.

    Quote Originally Posted by bd77
    I guess you don't notice the attack ads against McCain? In politics both sides launch attack ads at each other. Its no different here and it will get a lot worse before the November election. Don't just blame the GOP both sides are equally to blame.
    What I've noticed is Obama fighting back against the right wing onslaught of smears, many of which are now coming out of the very same John McCain that pledged to run a positive slur free campaign just a few months ago..

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    I am glad my observational post has brought debate on the subject, however, what is truely noteworthy is the fact that none of the Republican supporters who have posted thus far have even 'tried' to argue against the numbers! This is an absolutely astounding fact and shows that they seem to accept that McCain's defeat will be so huge.

    A disturbing post was of course is that by Lordbyroniv. The statement that he will vote for McCain because he will pre-emptively nuke Iran is preposterous in that it obviously does not look beyond some gung-ho momentary vitriolic acheivement of the mass killing of possibly millions of people. If that is the kind of President you want, then let me assure you that I am very glad that it seems extremely unlikely that you will get what you want.

    It is strange that at a time when the world is looking to America for leadership that it produces two quite distinct possible leaders. One who is gung-ho and reckless and is willing to kill (I will not use the term murder) possibly millions of men, women, and children by nuclear attack on the basis that they may attack another country, and on the other hand a man who brings strength through reason and argument to the table and is willing to fight terrorists wherever they are, but argues that the reason should prevail and that unnecessary wars should be avoided, saving the lifes of Americans, her allies and indeed the 'enemy' whom amoungst are undoubted innocents.

    Oh, and by the way, if you think the price of oil is high at the moment, can you imagine what will happen to that price should McCain get elected President? Imagine the threat that he posses to the oil producing region. Nuclear destruction and post radiation will make huge areas of the worlds oil production areas unworkable. Now it may be that $600 - $1,000 barrel may seem far fetched, but think about it, the oil production from the middle east could become a trickle. Now considering that Bush has all but bankrupted the US how would the US manage to pay such a price?

    Chinese investment now owns much of the US industrial and banking sector, I doubt they will try bailing out the US to the disadvantage of China. It is agreed though that some Americans would prosper under such a scenario, namely the oil conglomerates and Barons, oh yes, that is exactly the same people who have presently benefitted under Bush to the detriment of the vast majority of Americans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poker View Post
    Pat Buchanan and Joe Scarborough hammer Obama frequently on MSNBC, almost every Repub guest they have on does the same as they regurgitate their party's tired talking points.
    You named two conservatives on MSNBC amongst how many liberals? And if your going to talk about the GOP's tired talking points you need to talk about the liberals failed domestic and foreign policies of the past 30 years.....Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare.....I could go on and on.



    What I've noticed is Obama fighting back against the right wing onslaught of smears, many of which are now coming out of the very same John McCain that pledged to run a positive slur free campaign just a few months ago..
    McCain's just pointing out what a disaster Obama would be. He's a radical leftist who would bring 60's radicalism back to the White house. He likes Jimmy Carters foreign and domestic policies of the 1970's. I just can't except people like terrorist William Ayers or Rev. Jerimah Wright having access to the president of the United States. Can you?

    Don't get me wrong Poker I'm not a big fan of McCain he has for last 10 years stabbed conservatives in the back on a number of issues.l'll be voting for him just to keep Obama out of the White House.

    Quote Originally Posted by BILLBO View Post
    I am glad my observational post has brought debate on the subject, however, what is truely noteworthy is the fact that none of the Republican supporters who have posted thus far have even 'tried' to argue against the numbers! This is an absolutely astounding fact and shows that they seem to accept that McCain's defeat will be so huge.
    BILLBO you can't predict how the election is going to go. The media gets it wrong most of the time. The last election they said that Senator Kerry was going to win and George Bush won by the most votes ever. They said that Al Gore would win and he didn't.....Just don't trust poll numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BILLBO View Post
    It is strange that at a time when the world is looking to America for leadership that it produces two quite distinct possible leaders. One who is gung-ho and reckless and is willing to kill (I will not use the term murder) possibly millions of men, women, and children by nuclear attack on the basis that they may attack another country, and on the other hand a man who brings strength through reason and argument to the table and is willing to fight terrorists wherever they are, but argues that the reason should prevail and that unnecessary wars should be avoided, saving the lifes of Americans, her allies and indeed the 'enemy' whom amoungst are undoubted innocents.
    I never considered Obama gung-ho, Reckless in the sense that he would negotiate with Terrorists? YES, but gung ho? Not a chance.

    What happened to our Anti-War candidate anyway? I heard he wants to expand the war in Afghanistan and send in 7,000 more US troops, Invade Pakistan with or with out permission, where is the out cry from the Liberals?

    Ah Yes, Fight the enemy where ever they are" he says, With poll numbers showing the majority of Americans still very concerned about the Terrorist threat, Obama knows he needs to appeal to that voter in order to win..

    Say and do anything you can to get elected and do whatever you want once your elected.


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