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**zurc.net** · 10-24-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tas38

We should pull out of both wars only give them 90 days notice, let them and the rest of the world deal with it now, there is no way we can win unless we pull out.

So much for fighting high tech wars, in the past lots of people died so the ones left after the war, had no fight left in them anymore. Had we keep bumbing them from the air, till they handed over the terrorist and their leaders. They would of had no fight left, they would of also picked better leaders.

And not let terrorist in their country anymore, plus other country's would be put on notice. War is a very bad thing and to be kept from at all cost, because everyone loses with no real winners in real wars. Many people will die, and when it's over the reason it started will not matter anymore.

But then they would have no head line 'confirmations' of who has been killed for their political benefit and not enough people would be able to profit off of the fallen souls...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afwzu8JT7TE

It's all about business, thats why our government is so f***ed...

**tas38** · 10-24-2009, 10:39 PM

So very true zurc, and don't forget it's oil as well.

**Doc Com** · 10-24-2009, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by companyone

Hi Doc Com,

Then

As I Said:

Done!

BUT>>>You can not just leave the very few ones we have there NOW as sitting targets for months...right now that's all they are...hes getting troops killed...by not making a decision NOW.

And the only reason he has not:.. is based purely on HIS political agenda. Its Politically "bad timing" for him right now.

Which is wrong on EVERY LEVEL you can think of.

Peace,
Dan

Again, sitting on the sidelines, you have come up with a solution to a problem without devising how to arrive at that solution.

Where do the troops come from.

What was Bush's political agenda for sending them there, and pulling them out, and taking even more out last year?

So don't spew the political agenda or bad timing nonsense...

what was the political agenda for trimming them down to a pittance of a force to fend for themselves to begin with?

Once more, why weren't these same questions asked and answered by you and the other amercians who profess to be concerned now???

Do you think the taliban and Al qaeda grew stronger when we had a strong force over there? Or did they grow stronger when they were away of their numbers dwindling.

Why pretend to be concerned now? Where was your concern one year, two years, three years, five years ago?

Why pretend the problem exists now and at no other time.

**zurc.net** · 10-24-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doc Com

Again, sitting on the sidelines, you have come up with a solution to a problem without devising how to arrive at that solution.

Where do the troops come from.

What was Bush's political agenda for sending them there, and pulling them out, and taking even more out last year?

So don't spew the political agenda or bad timing nonsense...

what was the political agenda for trimming them down to a pittance of a force to fend for themselves to begin with?

Once more, why weren't these same questions asked and answered by you and the other amercians who profess to be concerned now???

Do you think the taliban and Al qaeda grew stronger when we had a strong force over there? Or did they grow stronger when they were away of their numbers dwindling.

Why pretend to be concerned now? Where was your concern one year, two years, three years, five years ago?

Why pretend the problem exists now and at no other time.

Ain't that the truth! AMEN!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PynWTLeUJRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl_QUZBUyLE

**tas38** · 10-25-2009, 01:35 AM

>>> What was Bush's political agenda for sending them there, and pulling them out, and taking even more out last year? <<<

It was to put a big oil pipe line worth mega billions, he pull them out because they could not stablize the country, so the banks pull out of the deal that was put together when they went in.

>>> what was the political agenda for trimming them down to a pittance of a force to fend for themselves to begin with? <<<

They felt Iran could get control over the Iraqi oil fields, the pipe line deal went down the toilet, so they worried Iran could turn the tables fast. And move more to Iraq to insure that did not happen, also Iran was looking like they could change the funds use to trade oil.

Meaning the USA would of been in very bad shape, they was forced to take action to keep it from happening. But now they stop it have they done anything, to keep it from happening again by getting us off all import oil. No they have not done much at all, in fact new numbers say a lot less people, now believe there is man made global warming.

**Area52** · 10-25-2009, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by meganerd

I'm glad we found those weapons of mass destruction that sent us to war in the first place. I'm glad all these years later, Bush had an exit plan.

For the mentally challenged, here it is again.
Many prominent Democrats, who hold office today, agreed and declared that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
In fact, they gave the OK to send troops to Iraq.

**tas38** · 10-25-2009, 05:17 AM

Area52 you are right, they was mislead because they was spineless or wanted to be, and did not push them to show the real facts. And I'm pretty sure some knew the real facts, and lied just like the rest of them did.

**companyone** · 10-25-2009, 09:03 AM

Doc Com...

I have had my own blog on the Iraq war...since 2007. While Iraq is the main focus...Afganistan, Iran, Pakistan and more middle nations are talked about. Each post 'hand posted'. Over 2,000+

I just did not jump on this truck "with this thread" on a domain forum.

Peace!
Dan

Thanks Area52,

Here...take a look at some old video(s)

This is not my "blog"... But it shows you what "Vile" left radicals are ALL about!

http://davidbetrayus.com/

A NASTY HILLARY CLINTON:
http://davidbetrayus.com/tos.html (You Will Notice SHE SAID AL QJada WAS IN IRAQ IN 2002

____

Peace!
Dan

Quote:

What was Bush's political agenda for sending them there, and pulling them out, and taking even more out last year?

The word: DEMOCRATS come to mind?

Doc...we are just going to have to agree to disagree..

Peace!

**thevirtual** · 10-25-2009, 10:42 AM

So, Mccain IS doing this for the money, and this is something that hurts internet users not helps them.

Why am I not surprised.

**Doc Com** · 10-25-2009, 12:08 PM

I've been posting and writing about this for far longer but that does not make me right.

Quote:

Originally Posted by companyone

Doc...we are just going to have to agree to disagree..

Peace!

Agree.

Just like the defending of Bush pardoning Scooter Libby.

Treasonous acts.

**PRED** · 10-25-2009, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DomainsInc

Oh, and with McCain it would of been 3 active wars.

exactly

**Raider** · 10-26-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by tas38

Area52 you are right, they was mislead because they was spineless or wanted to be, and did not push them to show the real facts. And I'm pretty sure some knew the real facts, and lied just like the rest of them did.

Misled by who Tim?

**draggar** · 10-26-2009, 05:44 AM

Just an FYI - this act just modifies a law already in place.

The library of congress has the changes here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:2:./temp/~bdnL7j:@@@L&summ2=m&|/bss/d111query.html|

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SUMMARY AS OF:
7/31/2009--Introduced.
Internet Freedom Preservation Act of 2009 - Amends the Communications Act of 1934 to set the policy of the United States regarding various aspects of the Internet, including access, consumer choice, competition, ability to use or offer content, applications, and services, discriminatory favoritism, and capacity.

Makes it the duty of each Internet access service provider to: (1) not block, interfere with, discriminate against, impair, or degrade the ability of any person to use an Internet access service; (2) not impose certain charges on any Internet content, service, or application provider; (3) not prevent or obstruct a user from attaching or using any lawful device in conjunction with such service, provided the device does not harm the provider's network; (4) offer Internet access service to any requesting person; (5) not provide or sell to any content, application, or service provider any offering that prioritizes traffic over that of other such providers; and (6) not install or use network features, functions, or capabilities that impede or hinder compliance with these duties.

Requires the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) to promulgate related rules.

Prohibits construing this Act to prohibit an Internet access provider from engaging in reasonable network management.

Requires the FCC to: (1) promulgate rules to ensure that an Internet access service provider does not require a consumer, as a condition on the purchase of any Internet access service, to purchase any other service or offering; and (2) take certain actions, including regarding private transmission capacity services.

It looks like the FCC's proposition would put them in control but this act would put the ISPs in control. It looks like a loose-loose situation for us.

**DomainsInc** · 10-26-2009, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by draggar

Just an FYI - this act just modifies a law already in place.

The library of congress has the changes here:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/D?d111:2:./temp/~bdnL7j:@@@L&summ2=m&|/bss/d111query.html|

It looks like the FCC's proposition would put them in control but this act would put the ISPs in control. It looks like a loose-loose situation for us.

Well seeing as how the FCC is pushing for net neutrality and the ISP's want to make money providing faster access for whomever fills their pockets the most, I think we'd rather the former.

**draggar** · 10-26-2009, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DomainsInc

Well seeing as how the FCC is pushing for net neutrality and the ISP's want to make money providing faster access for whomever fills their pockets the most, I think we'd rather the former.

True - don't forget the fact that some ISPs are already sending you to "suggested" (parked) pages if the URL doesn't resolve - or is blocked by them.

My ISP (Comcast) is doing it and I've tried to opt out several times with no luck.

**tas38** · 10-26-2009, 07:34 AM

>>> Misled by who Tim? <<<

Misled by the lairs that said Iraq had weapons of MD, we never did find out who all was behind the lies about all that, and I'm sure we will never know.

For me I think bushes side kick dick pushed the lies, and bush trusting him went along with it, bush was not the smartest guy so that could of been the case. It would also tell us why, bushes side kick dick is still defending, some thing that can't be defended.

**Gregcyber** · 10-26-2009, 02:45 PM

Skype calls on EU to reverse net neutrality policy.

Skype has called on the European Union (EU) to rethink its current inclination to restrict the openness of the internet, and to support net neutrality in the same way as the US and Canada.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20091026...u-6315470.html

**companyone** · 10-26-2009, 02:54 PM

**tas38** · 10-26-2009, 08:28 PM

I think people need to wake up, and see we are losing our rights left and right. The gov't has used 9/11 and terrorism as a means to do it, before that no one would let gov't/incs take control of stuff.

Intel was going to make a CPU, that could ID the system and the back lash was very big. They soon canned any such thing, but now the gov't can openly just ask our ISP's, for our records of what site and stuff we done and they give it to them.

We have the right to keep the stuff we do in private private, unless they can get a court order with some proof a crime has taken place. Forcing controls on us after we paid ISP's, to give up our hookup to the internet, is taking our rightful control over, when and what we do online away from us.

One day people will wake up and see they lost all their rights, but then it will be to late to get them back. You must fight to keep them, or you will lose them it's that simple, the internet is open and needs to stay that way. Saying they don't have the resources at time, is a lie when all they have to do is upgrade to get them.

**Area52** · 10-27-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PRED

exactly

You might consider more protein in your diet. Too much corn will turn you into a slobbering idiot.
Then you would constantly rant that Obama is god because Bush wasn't.

Quote:

Originally Posted by think

[b]Anyone can tell a story and make it sound incredible and believable. But without facts it's just a story.

LOL. I couldn't have described the Obama administration any better. The Lord do work in mysterious ways.

10-24-2009, 10:39 PM	#42 (permalink)
tas38 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 09:23 AM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,022 DNF$: 100	So very true zurc, and don't forget it's oil as well. __________________ Tim S.

10-25-2009, 01:35 AM	#45 (permalink)
tas38 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 09:23 AM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,022 DNF$: 100	>>> What was Bush's political agenda for sending them there, and pulling them out, and taking even more out last year? <<< It was to put a big oil pipe line worth mega billions, he pull them out because they could not stablize the country, so the banks pull out of the deal that was put together when they went in. >>> what was the political agenda for trimming them down to a pittance of a force to fend for themselves to begin with? <<< They felt Iran could get control over the Iraqi oil fields, the pipe line deal went down the toilet, so they worried Iran could turn the tables fast. And move more to Iraq to insure that did not happen, also Iran was looking like they could change the funds use to trade oil. Meaning the USA would of been in very bad shape, they was forced to take action to keep it from happening. But now they stop it have they done anything, to keep it from happening again by getting us off all import oil. No they have not done much at all, in fact new numbers say a lot less people, now believe there is man made global warming. __________________ Tim S.

10-25-2009, 05:17 AM	#47 (permalink)
tas38 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 09:23 AM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,022 DNF$: 100	Area52 you are right, they was mislead because they was spineless or wanted to be, and did not push them to show the real facts. And I'm pretty sure some knew the real facts, and lied just like the rest of them did. __________________ Tim S.

10-25-2009, 10:42 AM	#49 (permalink)
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10-26-2009, 07:34 AM	#56 (permalink)
tas38 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 09:23 AM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,022 DNF$: 100	>>> Misled by who Tim? <<< Misled by the lairs that said Iraq had weapons of MD, we never did find out who all was behind the lies about all that, and I'm sure we will never know. For me I think bushes side kick dick pushed the lies, and bush trusting him went along with it, bush was not the smartest guy so that could of been the case. It would also tell us why, bushes side kick dick is still defending, some thing that can't be defended. __________________ Tim S. Last edited by tas38; 10-26-2009 at 08:17 PM..

10-26-2009, 02:45 PM	#57 (permalink)
Gregcyber Platinum Lifetime Member Name: Greg Last Online: 11-23-2009 09:42 PM iTrader: (3) Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 930 DNF$: 0 Location: Michigan	Skype calls on EU to reverse net neutrality policy. Skype has called on the European Union (EU) to rethink its current inclination to restrict the openness of the internet, and to support net neutrality in the same way as the US and Canada. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20091026...u-6315470.html __________________

10-26-2009, 02:54 PM	#58 (permalink)
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10-26-2009, 08:28 PM	#59 (permalink)
tas38 Platinum Lifetime Member Last Online: Today 09:23 AM iTrader: (15) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,022 DNF$: 100	I think people need to wake up, and see we are losing our rights left and right. The gov't has used 9/11 and terrorism as a means to do it, before that no one would let gov't/incs take control of stuff. Intel was going to make a CPU, that could ID the system and the back lash was very big. They soon canned any such thing, but now the gov't can openly just ask our ISP's, for our records of what site and stuff we done and they give it to them. We have the right to keep the stuff we do in private private, unless they can get a court order with some proof a crime has taken place. Forcing controls on us after we paid ISP's, to give up our hookup to the internet, is taking our rightful control over, when and what we do online away from us. One day people will wake up and see they lost all their rights, but then it will be to late to get them back. You must fight to keep them, or you will lose them it's that simple, the internet is open and needs to stay that way. Saying they don't have the resources at time, is a lie when all they have to do is upgrade to get them. __________________ Tim S.

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