Meet Our Nation's Climate Villains

**H2FC** · 01-13-2010, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Raider

Adverse opinions?

You mean LIES dont you?

No...I was referring to my opinions, not what you were saying to oppose them.

**Donald Aquilano** · 01-13-2010, 07:55 PM

There are no climate villains because there is no man made global warming. Why can't people just understand that the earth go's through warming and cooling cycles?........Oh I know why there is money to be made off of climate legislation.

**H2FC** · 01-13-2010, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by bd77

There are no climate villains because there is no man made global warming. Why can't people just understand that the earth go's through warming and cooling cycles?........Oh I know why there is money to be made off of climate legislation.

Yes, I'll have to agree with you on the money part.....surprised aren't you?

Our whole world will benefit when a clean green energy economy is fully adopted. Not only will clean green job money be made in the process but it will be a great help toward ending our world wars as well as ending the proverty in poorer countries.

Just think of the many ways poorer countries, in fact all countries, can benefit when electricity is provided by the sun, wind and other means without being dependent on foreign oil and dirty coal. It will be a natural clean way of life as God intended instead of the greedy, corrupted, nasty, and disaster threatening business going on now within the fossil fuel industry.

Yes, there is money to be made but the other benefits of a clean green economy is even more valuable.

**Raider** · 01-13-2010, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by H2FC

Just think of the many ways poorer countries, in fact all countries, can benefit when electricity is provided by the sun, wind and other means without being dependent on foreign oil and dirty coal.

Nuclear energy does just that and it's far more efficient than wind or solar, but yet you reject it. You reject a source of energy that's clean and emits ZERO C02 into the atmosphere, the very ingredient that environmental wackos like you claim is causing the earth to warm.

Go figure

**HasRob** · 01-13-2010, 10:54 PM

none of it matters, 2012 is gonna take us all out anyway lol

beam me up scotty (:

**Compassion** · 01-13-2010, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by H2FC

would you care to explain this gobbledygook?

Greenland ice-core records
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/...alley2000.html

**000** · 01-13-2010, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by H2FC

... you may not agree that "old white guys" are most likely the ones in this country (USA) who are rich off of fossil fuels....but no matter, they are whether you believe it or not.

You started this thread as a guide to anger projection. Age, race and sex based anger and self-loathing are not healthy. Please consider anger management. Good luck!

**H2FC** · 01-14-2010, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by Raider

Nuclear energy does just that and it's far more efficient than wind or solar, but yet you reject it. You reject a source of energy that's clean and emits ZERO C02 into the atmosphere, the very ingredient that environmental wackos like you claim is causing the earth to warm.

Go figure

Never said I completely ruled it out....I did say I had serious concerns about its safety. My main concern being in human error that could surely cost many lives of those within range. And of course, there is that Gigantic Problem with what to do with the radioactive spent nuclear fuel rods that take thousands of years to become safe again. I cannot image the dangers of a world full of these things and thats exactly what we would eventually have if all of our energy was provided by nuclear plants. It would be as bad or maybe worst than the excessive co2 being dumped into our atmosphere. Maybe someday new technologies will make nuclear energy safe....but not now.

As a long term plan the clean green renewable energy is best. Once developed and widely used it will be cheaper, cleaner, and much, much safer. New technologies have already proven its possible and feasible....the ones who fight it are the same ones who are benefitting from the continuing use of fossil fuels.....and of course their sheep followers/supporters like you and a few others.

**H2FC** · 01-14-2010, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by 000

You started this thread as a guide to anger projection. Age, race and sex based anger and self-loathing are not healthy. Please consider anger management. Good luck!

No...I started this thread to identify some of the most important people who stand in the way of moving toward a clean green energy economy.

I don't have a problem with anger management...if I did I'd probably be trying to reach through this screen to strangle some of the people I sometimes have to respond to.

**H2FC** · 01-14-2010, 08:29 AM

Originally Posted by Compassion

Greenland ice-core records
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/pubs/...alley2000.html

Ok....so this shows the earth went through sever freezing thousands of years before now. We already know this....in fact we know it went through many different periods of freezing and warming.

I still fail to understand your point with posting these charts.....what does it have to do with our present day climate change caused by mankind burning fossil fuels for energy?