Michele Bachmann Says Hurricane Irene & Earthquake Are Divine Warnings To Washington

[Rocket2Uranus]

Yes, I am aware that many Americans are indeed stupid. How you draw the parallel between stupidity and voting for Obama as anything but blatanly lameheaded demagoguery is still a mystery.

Palin was not my excuse for voting Obama, but she certainly made the alternative much scarier than, say, McCain/Romney would have been. I think most people were completely worn out from the "W" years, and saw the desperate need for change. If you think McCain/Palin would have been any better at managing the economic crash Bush left us with, my opinion is you are deluded.

And, no, I am not calling you a racist. If I was, there would be no ambiguity. I was simply pointing out the obvious link between the ultra-conservative wing and their irrational hatred of Obama (i.e. Birthers, Barack the Magic Negro, obsessing over weak Jeremiah Wright connections, etc). I seriously doubt a white president who is otherwise identical would have been likewise demonized.

I know my history, thank you very much, but please explain how the Democrats being segregationists so many years ago is even remotely relevant to the problems we face today? You seem to be ever-so-anxious to avoid talking about the economic and foreign policy legacies Bush left us, and quite obsessed with irrelevant historical embarrassments of the distant past. You think Republicans don't have skeletons in their closets? Who cares?

[Gerry]

Seriously? The Jeremiah Wright argument? That's the best you've got?

Yes, seriously...that's the best she's got.

It is the dodge and deflect strategy...dodge the real issue (what Bachmann said) and deflect the attention (to another preacher).

Yes, seriously...as if the Reverend Jeremiah Wright was running for office. Yes, Obama is guilty by association. If Obama's preacher said it, then Obama must have lived by it and practiced it.


Me, I'd rather keep the attention focused right where it should be...on Michelle Bachmann. And her husband, of course. I am still intrigued by the notion of charging gay people money attempting to convince them to go straight. You can fail miserably in this attempt and still collect cash, insurance money, and even medicaid and medicare. You don't have to convert on single person to go straight but as long as you keep good records in your efforts, you get paid.

And some people thought domaining was filled with riches.

[500,000]

REALLY?

CNN: How Stupid Are Americans?

How Obama Got Elected... Interviews With Obama Voters

Stupid Voters

These links remind me of this topic, Stupid. Obama media is only publishing this crap to destroy a ligament candidate for US President.

Why did not the OP post the others that made same or similar claims? Maybe its because Bachmann is the only one running against Obama.

These blame and publish tactics remove the real issues that effect America and help take the Obama Communist Party out of the spot light.

[Raider]

Yes, I am aware that many Americans are indeed stupid. How you draw the parallel between stupidity and voting for Obama as anything but blatanly lameheaded demagoguery is still a mystery.

To Obama, it's always been about capturing the vote, the stupid vote.. Targeting minorities and the uneducated through advertising and on the campaign stump, Selling a pipe dream to the naive and the gullible, Just look at how many people bought into the slogan "Hope and Change" never defining what it meant and NEVER did his supporters ask him to define it. Obama's push for giving Amnesty to illegal aliens is all about BUYING the Hispanic vote, And since Congress (THE PEOPLE) rejected Obama's Amnesty requests, he's now resorting to granting backdoor Amnesty as another way to get their vote, Minorities, most of which are uneducated and clueless about our political system.

Palin was not my excuse for voting Obama, but she certainly made the alternative much scarier than, say, McCain/Romney would have been. I think most people were completely worn out from the "W" years, and saw the desperate need for change. If you think McCain/Palin would have been any better at managing the economic crash Bush left us with, my opinion is you are deluded.

I think your deluded in your reasoning for voting for a complete incompetent... Your right about America being worn out with "W", I was worn out with him too and I wanted change, but I wanted POSITIVE change and I knew that wasn't possible with a President who had a Liberal ideology, he was going to destroy our economy just like Carter destroyed it when he left 1981. History always has a way of repeating itself, and our present economic situation is proof of that... I chose to vote NOT for the man but for a ideology that's friendly to businesses and the private sector, Even though I despised McCain, I voted for him because it was a vote in the right direction. You, like millions of other fools chose vote for a candidate with a radical leftist ideology, and were all paying the price.

And YES, I do think McCain/Palin would have been FAR better at managing the economic crash that the Democrats in congress left us with.. NO doubt about it.

And, no, I am not calling you a racist. If I was, there would be no ambiguity. I was simply pointing out the obvious link between the ultra-conservative wing and their irrational hatred of Obama (i.e. Birthers, Barack The Magic Negro, obsessing over weak Jeremiah Wright connections, etc).

I've seen hatred but nothing irrational like you say, Quite understandable considering the destruction this President has done to our economy, Face it, the man is a human wrecking ball. Even black conservatives have been lashing out at him, are they racists too?.. What your trying to do here is link Racism with Conservatism and your FAILING miserably at it.. The Birther thing was Obama's own doing by refusing to release it like every other President before him has done, by him refusing, it raised the question of the legitimacy of his Presidency, what does this have to do with Racism?... And "Barack The Magic Negro", this originated from David Ehrenstein of the Los Angeles Times, David Ehrenstein who the last time I checked was a Black man who writes satire, and your calling him a Racist? and a conservative?.. I'll be you didn't even know that, you hear a sound bite and you run with it.

"Obsessing over weak Jeremiah Wright connections"

Barack Obama's Pastor of 20 years is a week connection? If the Church you attended preached what he preached, would you not come back or would you keep going for 20 years? Obviously Obama agreed with what his Leftist Radical Pastor was preaching, otherwise he would of been gone a long time ago.

I seriously doubt a white president who is otherwise identical would have been likewise demonized.

BULLSH*T... Your telling us Obama has been demonized more than Bush or Jimmy Carter was?. You cant be serious..



I know my history, thank you very much, but please explain how the Democrats being segregationists so many years ago is even remotely relevant to the problems we face today? You seem to be ever-so-anxious to avoid talking about the economic and foreign policy legacies Bush left us, and quite obsessed with irrelevant historical embarrassments of the distant past. You think Republicans don't have skeletons in their closets? Who cares?[/QUOTE]

If you know your history, you wouldn't be so quick to label Republicans or conservatives as Racists, Republicans have historically supported the civil rights of African Americans, They fought hard in the early 60's for the civil rights act and the right for Blacks to vote, When the Civil rights act was passed, Republican support was HGHER than Democratic support, look it up.. And I don't avoid anything, you obviously haven't been following this section very well of the last 4 years, Ask me any question about Bush on the economy or the Iraq or Afgan Wars and I've answered it at least 10 times over. I'm not a big Bush supporter, he was a moderate like his Daddy and they both made major mistakes... All Presidents make them, but it's the degree of those mistakes that your going to be judged on the most... That's why I think Obama is unelectable, he's made far too many and he has NO major accomplishments other than Health Care Reform, which is destined to be overturned by the Supreme Court before Election day.

[500,000]

I really don't see the OP's claim.

[Raider]

Why did not the OP post the others that made same or similar claims? Maybe its because Bachmann is the only one running against Obama.

3 reasons;

1) Zurc prefers to post threads that will attract support from his leftist pals.. It's a "pile on thread", find a topic that's critical of someone his friends hate so he will feel like one of the gang... And he rewards them with "Likes" like he's giving bones to a pack of dogs.

2) Bachmann is the only true Republican running, all the others are either moderates, phoney Republicans or Libertarian... She's a Ronald Reagan conservative who can potentially turn back the clock 20 years, She's a Liberal progressives worst nightmare.

3) She's Female and She's conservative, Woman aren't supposed to be conservative, were supposed to be Liberal progressives and think like they do. Any Woman who doesn't is automatically labeled a "nut"

[HomerJ]

I am really starting to wonder if she even really believes the shit she spews... holy moly this lady is whacked out!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...297,b=facebook

do you actually believe anything any politician says?

[Rocket2Uranus]

ok Raider, you've worn me out now. I don't even have the energy to respond to all the craziness in your last response.

I just have to ask... do you really believe all of that?

[DomainsInc]

3 reasons;

1) Zurc prefers to post threads that will attract support from his leftist pals.. It's a "pile on thread", find a topic that's critical of someone his friends hate so he will feel like one of the gang... And he rewards them with "Likes" like he's giving bones to a pack of dogs.

2) Bachmann is the only true Republican running, all the others are either moderates, phoney Republicans or Libertarian... She's a Ronald Reagan conservative who can potentially turn back the clock 20 years, She's a Liberal progressives worst nightmare.

3) She's Female and She's conservative, Woman aren't supposed to be conservative, were supposed to be Liberal progressives and think like they do. Any Woman who doesn't is automatically labeled a "nut"

Ronald Regan didn't kiss the ass of the religous right nearly as much as bachmann does. apparently she feels its the only way she'll have a chance? i've thought she was crazy for years. Just watch her debate someone on any news channel, shes always got that phoney smile and spouts off some pretty off the wall stuff in a vain attempt to not be wrong. its pretty sad. oh and her husband is a closet gay who runs a program that 'cures' gays...ouch.

[biggedon]

it's all part of the plan to "dumb down america"


increasing costs and budget cuts for education in the US, is the end result of that agenda


without education, one cannot rationalize

the ability to deduce fact from fiction becomes lost, and the people follow blindly behind those with their eyes closed to the truth!

[Poohnix]

Against stupidity the Gods Themselves contend in vain.

[Gerry]

Ronald Reagan conservative...

I choke.

Reagan's first term saw an increase of 11.3% in terms of debt to GDP ratio.
His second term was slightly better at 9.3% increase.

Reagan's first term saw a 14.5% increase in Federal Spending while increasing the Federal Debt by 49% over the previous administration.
Reagan's second term saw a 7.4% increase in Federal Spending and increase in Federal Debt by 32%.

Using that word "conservative" sounds great (in principle) but is not the case in what was actually practiced.

Charts and records show that from 1978-2005 those "Liberals" held Federal Spending to 9.9% while the "conservatives" had a 12.1% increase. During this same period, those damn liberals held the Federal Debt to 4.2% whereas the "conservatives" increase Federal Debt by a whopping 36.4%.

So please don't use the word conservative in describing Reagan, Bush, Bachmann, Perry, et al. Because history has shown that they do a complete about face once elected to office and spend, spend, spend, spend - just on different stuff and on different sets of people.

[Rocket2Uranus]

Great point Doc. I only use the term to define social conservatives... you know, the ones that believe in freedom and liberty for all those groups that qualify under their constantly shifting set of criteria.

[Gerry]

Great point Doc. I only use the term to define social conservatives... you know, the ones that believe in freedom and liberty for all those groups that qualify under their constantly shifting set of criteria.

bingo. There has been a complete distortion of the real meaning and root of some of these words, in particular conservative.

Today that word has no meaning beyond sound bytes and campaign speeches.

[Raider]

ok Raider, you've worn me out now. I don't even have the energy to respond to all the craziness in your last response.

I just have to ask... do you really believe all of that?

Whenever facts are staring liberals in the face and their called out for the BULLSHIT they post, some will find a way of indirectly waving the white flag, kind of like what your doing here.


"I was simply pointing out the obvious link between the ultra-conservative wing and their irrational hatred of Obama (i.e. Birthers, Barack The Magic Negro, obsessing over weak Jeremiah Wright connections, etc);

I'm still waiting for that "Link"

[Rocket2Uranus]

You mistake weariness for surrender. I would never surrender to your brand of crazy. By the same token, you are beyond conversion. I choose not to waste my time on what would be a brilliant point-for-point repudiation of all the crazed rantings you have posted. I will not convince you of anything, though 90% of the board (and the country) would agree with me.

I am a business person. I know when to walk away from a losing proposition. That is what you are. Beyond any kind of rescue I could or would attempt.

[Gerry]

I would never surrender to your brand of crazy.

[Raider]

I would never surrender to your brand of crazy. By the same token, you are beyond conversion. I choose not to waste my time on what would be a brilliant point-for-point repudiation of all the crazed rantings you have posted. I will not convince you of anything, though 90% of the board (and the country) would agree with me.

Are you aware you just described the "Obama Supporter" PERFECTLY? All that's needed is changing who its directed at;

I would never surrender to their brand of crazy. By the same token, Obama supporters are beyond conversion. I choose not to waste my time on what would be a brilliant point-for-point repudiation of all the crazed rantings they post. I will not convince them of anything, though 90% of the board (and the country) would agree with me.

My only hope is that next time you'll be prepared to present factual information before playing the RACE CARD, Your over generalization of labeling an entire class of conservatives as racists was despicable to say the least.

People like you who brand Obama's critics as racists make me sick, your nothing but cowards who cant defend the indefensible so you inject race.... Quite pathetic.

I can say whatever the hell I want about his reckless policies and the damage he's done to this Country, and I could give a rats ass if he's white, black or brown, the damage he's doing is the issue here... Your the typical drone who cant stomach the criticism, all that does is make me want to post more of it, If you can't handle it or if your too lazy to try and defend it, you have NO business being in this section.

[Raider]

Ronald Reagan conservative...

I choke.

Reagan's first term saw an increase of 11.3% in terms of debt to GDP ratio.
His second term was slightly better at 9.3% increase.

Reagan's first term saw a 14.5% increase in Federal Spending while increasing the Federal Debt by 49% over the previous administration.
Reagan's second term saw a 7.4% increase in Federal Spending and increase in Federal Debt by 32%.

Using that word "conservative" sounds great (in principle) but is not the case in what was actually practiced.

Charts and records show that from 1978-2005 those "Liberals" held Federal Spending to 9.9% while the "conservatives" had a 12.1% increase. During this same period, those damn liberals held the Federal Debt to 4.2% whereas the "conservatives" increase Federal Debt by a whopping 36.4%.

So please don't use the word conservative in describing Reagan, Bush, Bachmann, Perry, et al. Because history has shown that they do a complete about face once elected to office and spend, spend, spend, spend - just on different stuff and on different sets of people.

That was quite a mess your boy Jimmy Carter put us in, did you think Ronald Reagan was going to fix it and rebuild our Military with money from his piggy bank?

Pulling a Nancy Pelosi and cherry picking years and percentages might paint a pretty picture for Democrats, but the fact is Federal Spending increased 17.2% under LIBERAL Jimmy Carter before Reagan succeeded him, And like you point out, it was 14.5% in Reagans first term and 7.4% in his second term, REDUCTION, REDUCTION.. HELLO!

Thank you for proving yourself wrong once again


Question, For the 17.2% increase under Carter, What did Americans get for that?

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And since when is "Conservative" solely defined as how much He/She spends and at what rate?.. This should go down in the Father Gerry book of world records as the most asinine thing you ever wrote.

Ronald Reagan was indeed a conservative, nobody but Liberals will ever argue that, It's time you look up the definition Mr. Registered Republican;


The Heritage Foundation, an American conservative think-tank, states a belief "in individual liberty, free enterprise, limited government, a strong national defense, and traditional American values. We want an America that is safe and secure; where choices (in education, health care and retirement) abound; where taxes are fair, flat, and comprehensible; where everybody has the opportunity to go as far as their talents will take them; where government concentrates on its core functions, recognizes its limits and shows favor to none. ... we believe the values and ideas that motivated our Founding Fathers are worth conserving." This would seem to be a reasonable definition of the best attributes of American conservatism.

A cornerstone of American Conservative philosophy is personal responsibility – the idea that each individual is solely responsible for his/her own well-being; government exists solely to ensure that the rules are enforced, which includes protection from hostile external forces.

American Conservatives seem to be generally against "big government": "The government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have." -- attributed to Gerald Ford