microsoft caught up in racial issue

[Gerry]

I make a motion that the title of this thread,

microsoft caught up in racial issue

be changed to,

DNF caught up in racial issue

[Poohnix]

I am criticisizing those few who made the decision to take out a black man in that Microsoft ad (and not even the graphic designer who merely "executed" the decision); and guess what, those few decision-makers may not even be of Polish or Eastern European descent. When did I categorically judge the Eastern European people again?

You have NO KNOWLEDGE whatsoever about their motive, yet you judge them as Racists.
I don't say they aren't. never had, but since I have NO KNOWLEDGE on what their decision was based upon, I give them the benefit of the doubt. Based on facts that I DO know, I have put forward reasons other than racist that would cause them to do what they did, reasons that makes more sense than the Racist card you're always playing.
For you, replacing a black man with a white, NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON REALLY IS, is per default racism. I have a more nuanced picture of the world.

And DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH BEFORE posting about (Southeast) Asian "looking" people in Eastern Europe instead of wasting everybody's time again and again.

Do my own what? I have first-hand knowledge, it's not hearsay or beliefs, I know what I'm talking about. Poland is our closest neighbor to the south, once part of my country, even. I have been in Poland, and most other eastern European countries, several times. What are YOUR sources?

[IBN]

Wow, what happen?

Well perhaps in the future, people, countries or the market will see that it is o.k. for three people to use computers. You don't have to erase anybody's existence because people of any color will be liked, or accepted enough to be able to show that they can use an everyday item.

Racism is also a child born from abuses in capitalism. It's an automatic relationship.

In my last post I made general statements and asked a series of questions, those who responded to me filled in the blanks with what they thought and what they thought I meant. I wanted to connect dots and show what corrupt ideas can lead to and how this corruption will be the mindset of the future CEO's, the think tanks, the WTO's, the Governments ect.. of the future. While some saw Racism, some saw intelligent marketing, some saw the elderly being replaced with youth, while others just saw a bad photoshop job attempt at erasing a person from the ad. Some view this with emotion attached while others do not.

An example of what a corrupt idea can lead to;

Seems you cant even post in the humor section without someone turning it into a race issue.

http://www.dnforum.com/f78/drinking-...ad-383140.html

I think maybe the thread was closed because you forgot to tell the whole joke. You left out the part of the fourth person in the bar. The Native American who whipped out his bow and arrow and shot the Texan girl in the back of the head and said. "Glad I got the real illegal alien before she turned around and asked me how to grow corn, I DON'T NEED TO LEARN THE SAME LESSON TWICE.... LOL....

It get's kind of heated but I think it's an educational thread non the less. I'm going back to being a lurker for now. For those who may be younger >25 members reading this thread, realize that their is a great deal of history and knowledge that relates directly to why people are posting what they are posting.

[denny007]

Bump !
Don't let this wonderful thread die PLEASE

[Anthony Ng]

Bump !
Don't let this wonderful thread die PLEASE

Perhaps you need to first figure out why YOUR citation has proven MY points.

[denny007]

Perhaps you need to first figure out why YOUR citation has proven MY points.

Well that's easy - because it happened only in your brain, you know, like your own personal matrix you live in and is real for you while other people just think "HUH ? WTF ? Is this idiot for real ?"

Because even if I were as racist as Hitler it still does not prove anything related to Microsoft, but that's for you obviously impossible to comprehend, because in your own distorted world, let's call it "Slaves matrix", racism is everywhere..

[Seraphim]

This thread should end with a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU28Pv26nNQ

[Raider]

Perhaps you need to first figure out why YOUR citation has proven MY points.

I dont see anywhere in this thread where you've proven anything.

[wussadotcom]

OMG The penguin has human feet!!

chuckle. .. how did you spot that.

[Anthony Ng]

Like I said, when reasons run out, personal attacks kicks in. I honestly am not interested in babysitting those who are "challenged" in reading comprehension, but let's not get suckered by a few trolls here, and take a look at how the mainstream media reported and commented on this:

For reasons that remain unclear, the makers of Microsoft's Polish advertisement did not see fit to replace the man on the left of the image, despite the fact that the country's Asian community is also virtually non-existent.

Guy Adams, The Independent

It is also an indication of the perceived status of black people in the country that the east Asian employee also featured did not receive an ethnic makeover.
...
There are those who say it's natural for a multinational company to gear its adverts towards the countries it's targeting. And, yes, if they were promoting themselves in African countries they might have an all-black cast. But the original was a multi-racial advert, a "United Colours of Benetton" take on the camaraderie within the company. To say that black people can't fit in with this image in certain countries of the world sends out a message that appeases those who discriminate. Even in the 1990s, this was shocking. In the 21st century, it is unforgivable.

Joseph Harker, Guardian

[Seraphim]

Here is another good one.

Some Get Too Easily Bruised By Race Issues

When Microsoft apologized last week for editing a photo, I didn’t quite get it.

A photo on the software giant’s Web site featured a white woman and two men, one Asian and one black. It was used to promote technological empowerment. Yet on Microsoft’s Polish business Web site, the black man’s head had been replaced with a white man’s — only they forgot to change the hand, too.

I hope the only thing they are sorry for is the embarrassing Photoshop disaster. But the uproar that led to the apology was laced with cries of racism.

Goofy and laughable, yes. Racist? I think not.

Microsoft’s deciding to change the ethnicity of a character in an ad is not much different from watching shows on BET and seeing commercials featuring a lot of African-Americans or watching Lifetime and seeing a lot of women.

I’m not saying racism doesn’t exist. U.S. Rep. Lynn Jenkins, a Kansas Republican, is trying to spin her way out of a blatantly ignorant comment about the GOP searching for a “great white hope” to stop President Barack Obama’s policies. And people are still debating the implications of the arrest of Harvard professor Henry Louis “Skip” Gates Jr.

But not every comment or incident involving different races equates to racism. Part of the reason we’re still a long way from racial harmony is a widespread social hypersensitivity.

Just last week, while on Twitter, I noticed someone posting a comment about how wrong it is to call biracial children “mixed.” The tweet went on to say that it was a term for mutts and not people.

Well, I’m biracial. And I say I’m mixed all the time, as do most of the other biracial people I’ve met in my life. It’s not a racial slur. But somewhere there is a kid who is now going to equate the word “mixed” with being called a dog.

This type of touchy overreaction leads to unnecessary conflict. New York Gov. Paterson learned that the hard way when he accused media critics of being hard on him and other black politicians because of their skin color. Former New York Mayor David Dinkins and Obama both disagreed and left Paterson to backpedal.

There is no doubt that race remains a considerable issue in our country –– even our president has been called a racist.

But before we pull that card, we have to double check. Be clear. Is it about the color of our skin, or is our skin just too thin?

Jeneé Osterheldt - KansasCity.com