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    Mother Nature Penetrates US Coast with 40 cold inches; Global Warmers Suicidal

    Man Made Global Warming alarmists are reported to be near suicide this week, and the 3rd huge snowstorm slams the US East Coast, dropping over 40 inches of snow on Washington DC and surrounding areas in the coldest winter in decades.

    "We're trying to get lawmakers to destroy millions of jobs and the US economy on the premise that the earth is getting warmer, yet despite all of the fake data we've published, it's like natures is making foolls of us.

    "It's like other Nature bent us over, pulled our pants down, and inserted a 12 inch icy probe back in December. That was humiliating, but we hung in there.... then she slid in 24 inches, a record depth, and that hurt... now she's pulled out and gone in for another 10 inches" reported one MMGW'er, with tears in his eyes.

    Another piped in "It really shows what foold we've been when we have to stand in a record snowstorm when our friend Al Gore told everyone temperatures would be skyrocketing by now -- everyone remembers that hockey stick chart."

    Area counselors ask that we keep an eye on those who have been preaching Man Made Global Warming, as depression may set in. "They are now coming to grips with with the fact they've been telling some very big lies for many years. That realization is far more devastating that a 1/2 degree temperature change over a century. They've lost friends and been exposed as fools."

    But one man we saw wasn't letting his dream of Global Warming die so easily. We was busy with his garden hose trying to melt the snow in his yard as it fell with streams of water, so he could deny there was ever a snowstorm. At night he's busy posting on the internet his 'proof' that there was no snow on the East Coast with photos of his washed down yard.

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    Some of you seem to think the mid west and east coast are the whole world.

    Vancouver had the warmest January ever recorded. In December we were in shirt sleeves when it was freezing in Florida. There has been record warm weather all winter on the west coast all the way up to the Arctic.

    This month has been so warm they are bringing in snow by dump truck and helicopter for the olympics because its not even cold enough to make snow on the mountian top. People will be getting off planes for the Olymics dressed in their $2000 ski outfits only to see green grass, flowers blooming and people walking around in shirt sleeves.

    I dont care about the argument one way or the other, but get your facts straight. Just because your freezing your but off in Washington doesnt mean the world has reverted to global cooling.

    http://www.sltrib.com/travel/ci_14295790
    Already, the area has endured its warmest January since record-keeping at Vancouver International Airport began in 1937, according to Environment Canada, with an average daily temperature of 44.8 degrees and an average high of nearly 50 degrees. "Shockingly warm" is how one forecaster described it, with the warming effect of an El Nino weather pattern to blame.

    http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/...721/story.html
    Welcome to the global warming games. (This is no snow job)

    No snow at Olympic site leaves VANOC scrambling
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2010/...#ixzz0e95HqOIc

    Record warm January in Vancouver on eve of 2010 Olympics
    http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/...944/story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedomains View Post
    Some of you seem to think the mid west and east coast are the whole world.

    Vancouver had the warmest January ever recorded. In December we were in shirt sleeves when it was freezing in Florida. There has been record warm weather all winter on the west coast all the way up to the Arctic.

    This month has been so warm they are bringing in snow by dump truck and helicopter for the olympics because its not even cold enough to make snow on the mountian top. People will be getting off planes for the Olymics dressed in their $2000 ski outfits only to see green grass, flowers blooming and people walking around in shirt sleeves.

    I dont care about the argument one way or the other, but get your facts straight. Just because your freezing your but off in Washington doesnt mean the world has reverted to global cooling.

    http://www.sltrib.com/travel/ci_14295790
    Already, the area has endured its warmest January since record-keeping at Vancouver International Airport began in 1937, according to Environment Canada, with an average daily temperature of 44.8 degrees and an average high of nearly 50 degrees. "Shockingly warm" is how one forecaster described it, with the warming effect of an El Nino weather pattern to blame.

    http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/...721/story.html
    Welcome to the global warming games. (This is no snow job)

    No snow at Olympic site leaves VANOC scrambling
    http://www.cbc.ca/sports/story/2010/...#ixzz0e95HqOIc

    Record warm January in Vancouver on eve of 2010 Olympics
    http://www.vancouversun.com/opinion/...944/story.html
    Some seem to think Vancouver is the whole world, and it's more important because of the Olympic stories. It's not.

    The entire US just saw a decade of cooling temperatures and cold storms. The East Coast is 1000 miles long, and the continental US is 3000 miles wide, so it is significant when a portion of the Earth that large experiences record cold while the Global Warming Scam has stated that temperatures would skyrocket. Vancouver is just one small spot which, by the way, had an extremely large amount of snow last year according to reports there.

    I know, it's hard to accept the at the Global Warming scam has made many of you look like a fool standing there in the snow with your bikini on, but go ahead and put that winter coat on, more snow is coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniperPark View Post
    Some seem to think Vancouver is the whole world blah blah blah
    Like I said, I dont care one way or the other because I have no expertise on the subject. I was just pointing out you cant claim the whole world is freezing just because its cold where you are.

    I wont ask what your academic qualifications are to take one side or the other, because you dont have any.

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    Juniper...I think you need to quit reading so many of those funny papers and pay more attention to whats really happening in the world. The last 10 years have been the warmest on record according to the great majority of the worlds real climate scientists. The silly skeptics you've been following are misusing you.....don't let yourself be fooled like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilovedomains View Post
    Like I said, I dont care one way or the other because I have no expertise on the subject. I was just pointing out you cant claim the whole world is freezing just because its cold where you are.

    I wont ask what your academic qualifications are to take one side or the other, because you dont have any.
    Awww, it's so cute when people think academia is a substitute for common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    The silly skeptics you've been following are misusing you.....don't let yourself be fooled like that.
    You really are incapable of comprehending that not all of us need to follow someone else's opinion, aren't you? You must get up in the morning and wait for your instructions for the day from your leaders, huh?

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    Weather != climate.
    You need to look at average and peak/bottom values across a large timespan.

    No rocket science involved here.
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    I did not know that either Democrat or Republican can make the snow!


    We had 26 inches last weekend and it's falling like crazy now - Another 14-18 inches will be on top of what we had from last week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuniperPark View Post
    Man Made Global Warming alarmists are reported to be near suicide this week, and the 3rd huge snowstorm slams the US East Coast, dropping over 40 inches of snow on Washington DC and surrounding areas in the coldest winter in decades.

    "We're trying to get lawmakers to destroy millions of jobs and the US economy on the premise that the earth is getting warmer, yet despite all of the fake data we've published, it's like natures is making foolls of us.

    "It's like other Nature bent us over, pulled our pants down, and inserted a 12 inch icy probe back in December. That was humiliating, but we hung in there.... then she slid in 24 inches, a record depth, and that hurt... now she's pulled out and gone in for another 10 inches" reported one MMGW'er, with tears in his eyes.

    Another piped in "It really shows what foold we've been when we have to stand in a record snowstorm when our friend Al Gore told everyone temperatures would be skyrocketing by now -- everyone remembers that hockey stick chart."

    Area counselors ask that we keep an eye on those who have been preaching Man Made Global Warming, as depression may set in. "They are now coming to grips with with the fact they've been telling some very big lies for many years. That realization is far more devastating that a 1/2 degree temperature change over a century. They've lost friends and been exposed as fools."

    But one man we saw wasn't letting his dream of Global Warming die so easily. We was busy with his garden hose trying to melt the snow in his yard as it fell with streams of water, so he could deny there was ever a snowstorm. At night he's busy posting on the internet his 'proof' that there was no snow on the East Coast with photos of his washed down yard.
    The above article is from one of the comic strips the MMGW uninformed skeptics rely on for their information. The site below tells the real story of how snowstorms and global warming relates.

    http://www.motherearthnews.com/Nature-Community/Signs-Of-Global-Warming.aspx
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    FYI - global "warming" can cause severe winters. The de-thawing of the Arctic can slow or stop the Atlantic current (from the Caribbean to the north-west Atlantic) giving Europe very severely cold winters. If there is enough long term snow cover (and I'd mean a lot - the entire continent for a long time) then it could reflect enough sunlight to cancel out global warming.

    Warming the oceans can also slow it down or even stop it.

    In the Earth's history it has gone from a complete snowball to a very hot planet and back again many times. In fact, the past couple thousand years have been a long warming period (roughly 5,000-10,000 years) inbetween massive ice ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    In the Earth's history it has gone from a complete snowball to a very hot planet and back again many times. In fact, the past couple thousand years have been a long warming period (roughly 5,000-10,000 years) inbetween massive ice ages.
    The difference is, MGW is producing tangible changes in just a few decades, not 100,000 years like natural climate change would. That's the problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    The difference is, MGW is producing tangible changes in just a few decades, not 100,000 years like natural climate change would. That's the problem.
    According to who? The proven liars amongst the IPCC? Have you been reading any of the recent threads on the subject?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    The difference is, MGW is producing tangible changes in just a few decades, not 100,000 years like natural climate change would. That's the problem.
    True but...

    Most say "over the past 150 years" (some will add in "ever since they've been recording temperatures) yet none mention that 150 years ago the world was in a mini ice age. We have many traditions today to thank for this.

    When Krakatoa (sp?) erupted in 1883 it lowered global temperatures on average by 2.2 degrees (F) - it darkened the Earth for years (and gave spectacular sunsets all over the globe for many months).

    There's also some theories (let me repeat - THEORIES - unproven) that massive climate change can happen rapidly. I'm sure if the Atlantic currents slowed or stopped winters in Europe would change drastically in as little as 2-3 years.

    To me, global warming could be a good thing. We have the technology to desalinize ocean water as well as pump it anywhere it is needed, even hundreds of miles from the ocean. Warmer weather means much longer growing seasons (imagine being able to farm all year in Texas, Oklahoma, and much longer seasons in Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakotas) and even opening up new lands (Siberia - northern Canada, Greenland) to farming. Just pump in the water from outside if droughts occur.

    What scares me is when this warming period ends. If we're not colonizing other planets by then, we can kiss humanity good bye, or at least back to a far less technological age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasdon11 View Post
    According to who? The proven liars amongst the IPCC? Have you been reading any of the recent threads on the subject?
    This is a serious scientific matter. I would rather trust scientists than hearsay from the naysayers.
    What I think or believe may not the truth, I'm more interested in scientific data and measures, than twisted opinions.

    Uneducated comments like:
    Man Made Global Warming alarmists are reported to be near suicide this week, and the 3rd huge snowstorm slams the US East Coast, dropping over 40 inches of snow on Washington DC and surrounding areas in the coldest winter in decades.
    are plain ridiculous and inappropriate.
    It's like saying, we killed 20 talebans today, therefore we are winning the war on terror. Sounds familiar ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    This is a serious scientific matter. I would rather trust scientists than hearsay from the naysayers.
    What I think or believe may not the truth, I'm more interested in scientific data and measures, than twisted opinions.
    Do you trust scientists who have been proven beyond any doubt to have;

    * lied about facts and figures in the interest of furthering the mmgw theory
    * manipulated data to exclude FACTS which don't support their theory
    * deleted data that proves their theories have been exagerated at best; totally fabricated at worse
    * told blatent lies in an attempt to clear their names for previous lies
    * have not been following 'true' scientific procedures as recognised by the world of science
    * are reliant on the funding thrown at them in order to come up with a desired result

    Hell, many of the names of the 2000+ 'so-called scientists' on the list of mmgw supporters, aren't even scientists - they are politicians and people not associated with the 'research' at all. Some of the ones on there who are scientists, say their names should not be on the list and have been trying to have their names removed.

    None of this is opinion - it is verified - it is reality. This is not hearsay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasdon11 View Post
    Do you trust scientists who have been proven beyond any doubt to have;

    * lied about facts and figures in the interest of furthering the mmgw theory
    * manipulated data to exclude FACTS which don't support their theory
    * deleted data that proves their theories have been exagerated at best; totally fabricated at worse
    * told blatent lies in an attempt to clear their names for previous lies
    * have not been following 'true' scientific procedures as recognised by the world of science
    * are reliant on the funding thrown at them in order to come up with a desired result

    Hell, many of the names of the 2000+ 'so-called scientists' on the list of mmgw supporters, aren't even scientists - they are politicians and people not associated with the 'research' at all. Some of the ones on there who are scientists, say their names should not be on the list and have been trying to have their names removed.

    None of this is opinion - it is verified - it is reality. This is not hearsay.
    Why don't you show us the verification you have.....something other than the lies told by the self-serving skeptics and their supporters....such as yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdsinc View Post
    This is a serious scientific matter. I would rather trust scientists than hearsay from the naysayers.
    What I think or believe may not the truth, I'm more interested in scientific data and measures, than twisted opinions.
    Which scientists do you mean, the pretend ones or the corrupt ones? Don't you know that the ipcc chairman is a former railway engineer, not a climate scientist. We've also just had Climategate, Sea Level Gate, Amazon Gate, Africa Gate, Glacier Gate and more..........so why the hell would you still trust the science from the ipcc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    Why don't you show us the verification you have.....something other than the lies told by the self-serving skeptics and their supporters....such as yourself.
    Jeez, it's like talking to a brick wall...

    There are links within all these recent threads (that you have been posting in) to independant articles which detail some of the lies and corruption from the mmgw conspiracy theorists. The fact you are now asking for that verification suggests you haven't read those articles despite trying to defend against them. If you haven't already read them, it might be a good idea that you do before posting anymore tosh, as it only makes you look foolish trying to defend the indefensible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasdon11 View Post
    Awww, it's so cute when people think academia is a substitute for common sense!
    If you have a doctorate in climatology, someone will pay a 6 figure salary for your opinion.

    If you add a dollar to your common sense opinion, you still wont have enough to get a cup of coffee.

    My opinion is... No one gives a crap what any of us think.

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    Some don't seem to know how the weather system works, global warming is real and all this snow proves it. BUT BUT BUT WAIT you say, and I'll will tell you how the weather system works.

    When it's warmer more water is put into clouds and that also make it fall more and faster, we had 5 inches of snow per hour at place last night, rain floods when it's not winter works the same way.

    All one has to do is look at the ave winter temps for the past 100 years, and to say this proves there is no global warming only proves, you don't know what you are talking about it's a simple as that.

    We got about 24 inchs here but yet it's been one of the warmest winters here, jan had a high temp here of 60 degrees we use to never get that warm, global warming is not a debate anymore it's proved.

    What we need to ask is what can we do about it if anything, and how we can deal with it better with out hurting the markets, but for now all of us agreeing to cut as much oil usage as we can is a good start.
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