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Old 10-05-2009, 10:54 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:01 AM   #22 (permalink)
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anyone know what time it is set to hit and if it will be visible with high end telescopes?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:05 AM   #23 (permalink)
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anyone know what time it is set to hit and if it will be visible with high end telescopes?
It looks like you will be able to see it:

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"In only a few seconds, we'll see the brilliant flash from the crash," he said Wednesday from Cape Canaveral. "The ejecta should show first as a single bright, shimmering star; we're calling it sunrise. Seconds later, even modest telescopes on Earth should see two blurry stars as the ejecta spreads wider and higher."

Those blurry lights would show as stars of the fourth or fifth magnitude, Colaprete said - possibly as bright as the Andromeda nebula. That spectacle may last only 60 seconds or so, Colaprete said, but it will signal that the Centaur's crash has created a fresh crater up to 5 miles wide at a carefully selected spot inside the larger target crater.

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Old 10-05-2009, 11:19 AM   #24 (permalink)
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It looks like you will be able to see it:

thats great! i'm going to try and nail down a time and watch this impact and of course the alien war that will take place after.
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"We do have the technology to fly faster than the speed of light but aliens won't allow us to use it anymore."

Which laws of physics do you subscribe to?
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Old 10-05-2009, 11:33 AM   #26 (permalink)
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"We do have the technology to fly faster than the speed of light but aliens won't allow us to use it anymore."

Which laws of physics do you subscribe to?
Maybe he's following these guys research:

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TIME AND SPACE
Traveling Faster Than the Speed of Light

The method is based on the Alcubierre drive, which proposes expanding the fabric of space behind a ship and shrinking space-time in front of the ship. The ship would not actually move, rather the ship would sit in a bubble between the expanding and shrinking space-time dimensions.
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Two Baylor University scientists have come up with a new method to cause a spaceship to effectively travel faster than the speed of light, without breaking the laws of physics.

Dr. Gerald Cleaver, associate professor of physics at Baylor, and Richard Obousy, a Baylor graduate student, theorize that by manipulating the extra spatial dimensions of string theory around a spaceship with an extremely large amount of energy, it would create a "bubble" that could cause the ship to travel faster than the speed of light.

To create this bubble, the Baylor physicists believe manipulating the 10th spatial dimension would alter the dark energy in three large spatial dimensions: height, width and length.

Cleaver said positive dark energy is currently responsible for speeding up the expansion rate of our universe as time moves on, just like it did after the Big Bang, when the universe expanded much faster than the speed of light for a very brief time.

"Think of it like a surfer riding a wave," said Cleaver, who co-authored the paper with Obousy about the new method. "The ship would be pushed by the spatial bubble and the bubble would be traveling faster than the speed of light."

The method is based on the Alcubierre drive, which proposes expanding the fabric of space behind a ship and shrinking space-time in front of the ship. The ship would not actually move, rather the ship would sit in a bubble between the expanding and shrinking space-time dimensions.

Since space would move around the ship, the theory does not violate Einstein's Theory of Relativity, which states that it would take an infinite amount of energy to accelerate a massive object to the speed of light.

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Tr...Light_999.html

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^ That's 'theoretical' physics and almost quite absurd as the original proposition I think.
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Shock waves from hyperflight speeds are disrupting the normal flight paths of the alien crafts. Therefore, they (the aliens) have imposed flight restrictions on earthern travel.
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Thanks Doc. I have a grasp of it now. Sort of like 'jet wash'.
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Thanks Doc. I have a grasp of it now. Sort of like 'jet wash'.
Exactly. But outside our atmosphere, the air (space) is very dense. Therefore, those shock waves are infinite in spread and life. Such shock waves are only interrupted when they hit a solid object (ie, UFO, planet) or are opposed from a secondary shock wave traveling towards that initial wave. The result is a "wake" within the routes.

All one has to do is look at the "crop signs" (your UK has them) or the Andes and you can clearly see these are "road maps" for aliens. Your space explorations has disrupted these "corridors" reserved for alien craft.
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G, I'm getting up to speed with all this thanks to your posts. Yeah, outside our atmosphere, the air is extremely dense. I guess that's why heat shields have to work on the way *up*. I chucked a stone into a puddle yesterday and a "quickest route" map of Mars appeared. It's on my GPS also. I can now navigate from Exeter UK to Utopia Planitia with ease. Have to remember to take the third off the roundabout at the bottom of my road. Quite cool really as it says there's a petrol station there too where I can fill 'er up.
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Err, I was only posting for obvservational purposes only and not for implying that it is a factual context.

For what it's worth I am an agnostic when it comes to alien life. In other words I haven't seen any little green men but I don't discount the possibility that they could exist.

As for the plan to hit the moon with a satellite I am intrigued but not overly concerned. It looks the Japanese crashed one of their satellites into the moon last week:

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Last year, British scientists identified regions where water might be found on the Moon and estimated that there could be enough to fill one of Europe's largest reservoirs.

The spacecraft will not head straight for the Moon. First it will orbit the Earth a number of times while its precise target is identified. Finally, it will send the missile into the Moon at twice the speed of a bullet on October 8.

The shepherding spacecraft will follow close behind, taking pictures and analysing the ejected debris as it looks for evidence of water. It has just four minutes to do this before it crashes into the Moon itself, producing a spectacular explosion that should be visible in amateur astronomers' telescopes.

It is a busy time for Moon crashes. Last week Japan's Kaguya probe collided with the Moon at the end of its own mission.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...e-moon-2009-06
Interesting. According to this article the Japanese satellite hit the dark side already:


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Astronomers using one of the world's largest telescopes captured the brilliant explosion as the Kaguya spacecraft slammed into the Moon.

Jeremy Bailey and colleague Steve Lee used the 3.9-metre (153-inch) Anglo-Australian Telescope in New South Wales to record a bright flash marking the impact of the Japan space agency JAXA's robotic probe.

The crash, at around 4.25am local time today in New South Wales, happened on the unlit, dark side of the Moon, close to the edge of the side illuminated by sunlight, called the terminator.

A mountain peak can be seen shining brightly in the pictures as it is caught by the rising sun over that region of the Moon. The impact flash is visible to the lower right of that peak in the photo sequence, taken with an infrared camera.

The probe, flying at nearly 4,000 mph, collided at a shallow angle which was expected to send it skipping across the lunar surface like a pebble on a pond.

http://news.skymania.com/2009/06/kag...rom-earth.html
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None of that is groundbreaking or controversial. It's the green men and the speed of light that makes interesting; if not ridiculous, debate.
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None of that is groundbreaking or controversial. It's the green men and the speed of light that makes interesting; if not ridiculous, debate.
I don't know about this not being groundbreaking. It sounds like a whole lot of ground will be broken when the satellite hits
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Nice attempt at a play on words, but not a really useful/meaningful reply
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Nice attempt at a play on words, but not a really useful/meaningful reply
Sorry Just trying to lighten things up. I was not aware of any country planning to collide satellites into the moon so I guess from that stand I find the thread of interest for me personally.

Maybe these things are discussed overseas with more frequency but in America the less controversial news can many times get glossed over for the more sensational.

All it takes is a little alien seduction to make it more sensational so I'll take notice.

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Fair comment 'think'
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