Obama defense track record better than Bush

[thevirtual]

More and more assumptions, Is this the best you can do?



Ridiculous? You want to know what's ridiculous? is reading idiotic and ignorant statements like "Under his watch" How many times have we heard that one? It seems it's the only line Liberals and Dems can come up with to blame Bush for 911, No other credible evidence, just "It happened under his watch"

Thank God the majority of Americans don't think as close minded as you do, When Bush took office, 6 in 10 Americans felt Bush was a strong leader, soon after 911 the number rose to 3 in 4, and stayed there even after the facts about 911 surfaced.

I think it's pretty irresponsible of you and people like you to not even consider what led up to the tragic event, 8 years of allowing Al Qaeda to build their network, Over 2 years of planning under the blindfold eyes of the Clinton Administration, The CIA and FBI were warned TWICE that Al Qaeda was going to use our planes and fly them into US Government buildings, Twice they were warned, Twice they did nothing... And let us not forget about The USS Cole Bombing, no retaliation, The Kobalt Towers, again no retaliation for the American servicemen that lost their lives.

About those warnings, Do you know what "Project Bojinka" is? Likely NOT, you wouldn't be posting nonsense like; "Under his watch" if you knew.... Try Googling it and get back to us on that OK?

You want to credit Bush with keeping the country safe from terrorists, but you wont give him any blame for not doing a single thing to keep the country safe on 9/11? At the same time you want to blame Bill Clinton for not invading another country and magically assassinating every "Islamic extremist" that could pose a future threat? You are kidding yourself.

Fact is Bush is responsible for more American deaths than the 9/11 terrorists are. Some people would argue that the Bush administration allowed 9/11 to happen, others say that they planned and executed the attacks. Regardless of the validity of these claims, the Bush administration has shown that they place no value on American lives and they have American blood on their hands. They have worked against the people on many occasions to serve their own needs and have terrorized this country, basically continuing where the 9/11 attackers left off.

I do want to thank you for creating this thread though, You essentially admitted that Bush policy on National Security has been a success, since it's the same policies and security measures currently being employed by the President and his administration.

This is essentially bullshit. Bush's "torture and imprison first, no questions asked" policies are a disgrace to the country and have not once been proven effectual.

[Raider]

Fact is Bush is responsible for more American deaths than the 9/11 terrorists are.

I see, your now comparing our servicemen that were killed in the line duty to the senseless deaths of over 3000 innocent civilians?, Your posts just keep getting more and more rediculous.

Some people would argue that the Bush administration allowed 9/11 to happen, others say that they planned and executed the attacks. .

What point are you trying to make here? That Bush planned 911? That he knew about the attack and did nothing? Is that what your saying?

Your not only embarrassing yourself here, but your dishonoring all those who died on 9/11, which is a disgrace.

Regardless of the validity of these claims, the Bush administration has shown that they place no value on American lives and they have American blood on their hands.

Anyone can say the same thing about JFK and LBJ, Or have you wiped out your memory of Vietnam already?

[Donald Aquilano]

Obama's national defense track record 100% better than Bush's during the same time period.

Discuss.

Where are your statistics to back this up???

I think the broad perspective over the pond here is that America has an intelligent president now, instead of the complete nincompoop he replaced. That's certainly my own view.

Dale why don't you tell us why we Americans should care what you all think? Has it ever occurred to you that just because someone speaks well in public doesn't mean that they are highly intelligent. Obama has lots of handlers that tell him what to say and how to say it.

[Dale Hubbard]

Where are your statistics to back this up???



Dale why don't you tell us why we Americans should care what you all think? Has it ever occurred to you that just because someone speaks well in public doesn't mean that they are highly intelligent. Obama has lots of handlers that tell him what to say and how to say it.

You shouldn't care what we "all" think. Most people couldn't give a toss anyway. I bet Bush had more "handlers" attempting to disguise his stupidity than Obama does handling his intelligence.

[jasdon11]

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Dale why don't you tell us why we Americans ... [QUOTE]


Make your mind up - you're either American or Italian.

[Seraphim]

I hate Bush, but I don't think he is stupid. He has an arrogant and nervous disposition, which obviously spells disaster when it comes to communication. His ruthlessness and deceit took some above average brain power.

[JuniperPark]

Your leaving out the fact that Bush walked into office when National defense and security was at it's weakest and Obama walked into office when it was at it's strongest, Thanks to Bush of course.

You seem to have missed the report from about a month ago where 100% of the guns/bombs smuggled into US buildings went UNDETECTED. As far as the border, just about every week we continue to find a boatload of Mexican illegals coming assure far north of the border in small motorboats - had they been carrying bombs or missles instead of people, we would be dead.

So what is this "strong" security you speak of?

[fab]

I hate Bush, but I don't think he is stupid. He has an arrogant and nervous disposition, which obviously spells disaster when it comes to communication. His ruthlessness and deceit took some above average brain power.

I take this that you are very pro Bush.

[Seraphim]

I take this that you are very pro Bush.

Yeah, I hate Bush, but I'm also very pro Bush.

[think]

You shouldn't care what we "all" think. Most people couldn't give a toss anyway. I bet Bush had more "handlers" attempting to disguise his stupidity than Obama does handling his intelligence.

I'm glad Europe is showing such high approval for Obama as I believe he like MANY other Americans do care what other people in the world think. The recent poll numbers for Obama in comparison to Bush's popularity glaringly shows two different worlds when it comes to our relationship with the people and countries of Europe :

The annual "Trans-Atlantic Trends" study found that 77 per cent of European Union citizens back Mr Obama's handling of international affairs, compared with only 19 per cent who thought the same of President George W Bush.

Overall, 75 per cent of Europeans have confidence in Mr Obama's ability to combat terrorism and two thirds now have a favourable view of America.

The popular view of American leaders has been transformed in the last 12 months. In Germany, Mr Obama enjoys an approval rating of 92 per cent, compared with only 12 per cent for Mr Bush.

In Britain, 82 per cent approve of Mr Obama, while only 17 per cent felt the same about his predecessor.

"We see a remarkable shift in trans-Atlantic opinion from the previous administration," said Craig Kennedy, the president of the German Marshall Fund, which conducted the study. "With American leadership enjoying unprecedented modern popularity, partners on both sides of the Atlantic have an immense opportunity to co-operate on a range of economic and security issues."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...oll-shows.html

[katherine]

I hate Bush, but I don't think he is stupid. He has an arrogant and nervous disposition, which obviously spells disaster when it comes to communication. His ruthlessness and deceit took some above average brain power.

It's not just he, cause he's a puppet of some sorts. The people pulling the strings behind the scenes (cheney, wolfowitz etc) are way more harmful.

[JMJ]

It's not just he, cause he's a puppet of some sorts. The people pulling the strings behind the scenes (cheney, wolfowitz etc) are way more harmful.

More dangerous than Zbigniew Brzezinski and George Soros?

[jberryhill]

At the same time you want to blame Bill Clinton for not invading another country and magically assassinating every "Islamic extremist" that could pose a future threat?

Actually, when Clinton did order missile attacks on Al Qaeda bases in Afghanistan, the right wingers claimed he was trumping up a terror threat to distract from the Republicans important agenda relating to President Clinton's penis.

By the way, do check out today's news from Somalia and New York. Bush let that guy in Somalia go for six years.