Obama hypocrisy related to Sotomayor nomination

[fab]

male population

As in Sarah Palin, Candy, etc.

[Gerry]

Why, of course we'll let her in the good ol boy club. Hell, she even hunts and rides on a snowmobile.

Traditionally, the GOP is a southern, white male, southern Baptist group.

I say "traditionally".

And its a damn shame.

[Area52]

How old are you? seriously, how old are you? Seems to me there have been tougher and stricter gun laws under nearly every administration. If we blame the dems for this, then who gets the blame for the massacre at Virginia Tech?

Why are you obsessed with my age? Are you on medication? Or perhaps a poor attempt at being condescending? I think both.

Here's a news flash for you:
illegal immigrants/aliens do not vote.

You know what I meant. You've got to be related to Barney Frank.

I hope this isn't over your arrogant head.

"Illegal immigrants granted amnesty can vote."

[Gerry]

The reason I ask your age is because you seem like a teenage attempting to start a political thread.

It as if you, too, are just now coming to the realization that there is a large Hispanic based population in this country who are NOT illegal.

And here is something else I do not understand. You are a member of a forum that deals with words and every word has a perceived or inherent value to it.

When I read your words and offer a rebuttal, don't come back and write "you knew what I meant". Because the fact is, I did not. I read your words. I read what you typed out, not what you meant.

In the domain business, that would be called a typo and have less significant value.

[jberryhill]

It as if you, too, are just now coming to the realization that there is a large Hispanic based population in this country who are NOT illegal.

What's stranger is how many people don't realize that a sizeable piece of that Hispanic population has been here longer than the descendants of a lot of English speakers.

Trivia question - What is the oldest continuously occupied European established city in the continental United States, and who founded it?

[Gerry]

What's stranger is how many people don't realize that a sizeable piece of that Hispanic population has been here longer than the descendants of a lot of English speakers.

Trivia question - What is the oldest continuously occupied European established city in the continental United States, and who founded it?

Are we talking St. Augustine?

Hmm...seems to have been a great many chicanos swept up in the Louisiana purchase.

And just think - Texas could have easily been "nord mexico" and Bush just another gringo.

[Raider]

Why are you obsessed with my age? Are you on medication? Or perhaps a poor attempt at being condescending? I think both.

Doc has access to all kinds of medication, It appears he might be sharing some with JBerryhill.

JB has asked me some rather strange and personal questions too.

[fab]

Traditionally, the GOP is a southern, white male, southern Baptist group.

I say "traditionally".

And its a damn shame.

Well, maybe you can explain to me, why Jews are so obsessed on being Democrats!

[randomo]

Well, maybe you can explain to me, why Jews are so obsessed on being Democrats!

If I had to guess, I might mention that many Republicans/conservatives seem intent on setting up & reinforcing Christianity as the de facto national religion.

But that's only if I had to guess. Good thing I have the freedom not to.

[Gerry]

If I had to guess, I might mention that many Republicans/conservatives seem intent on setting up & reinforcing Christianity as the de facto national religion.

But that's only if I had to guess. Good thing I have the freedom not to.

That would be a great place to start looking.

If the moral majority is the backbone of conservativism, then the Southern Baptist has no place for catholics and Jews. They are also not going to be throwing out the welcome mat for hispanics as that culture/religion is also predominately Catholic.

We are talking a region of the country that is deep rooted in hatred of anything that is not of that region. This includes those of different color, ethnicity, religion, and so on. This is a history that is not that far removed from the current generation. The opposition to civil rights is well documented and on record with the Senate.

It is history, it is heritage, and much of it is ugly and remains a stain on American society.

I used to cringe when Jesse Helms spoke. Now I cringe when Virginia Foxx speaks. She called the Matthew Shepherd hate crime bill a hoax and Obama's new medical proposal a death sentence on seniors. She is a ****ing idiot and so aren't her staffers. Stupid *****, she is one of those seniors getting free medical treatment courtesy of government - not because she is a senator but because she qualifies for Medicare! Medical coverage paid for and provided by the same people who she called a death squad for seniors.



How's that for Southern Conservative Intelligence!

[TheSnake]

GOP would have to weaken their position? You mean like they have to shake their anti-brown stance along with having to shake off their decades old anti-black position? Frightening to think that there would be anyone or anything outside the white anglo saxon male population infiltrate their ranks.

Thanks for this post because it exemplifies the crazy BS that we see from many Dems and the likes of MSNBC, Keith Olberman, liberal media etc. Painting the GOP and Anglo-Saxons in general as racist, is a favorite pastime of Dems to keep the flames of race tension alive for political purposes. You can always point to racists in both parties because they still do exist. It is very easy to pick out certain people and show racist tendencies, then generalize this occurrence to an entire race of people (or Political Party).

Obama's recent comments calling a white police officer "stupid" for arresting his black friend (without any knowledge of what happened) calls into question his view of white, male authority figures. I can only imagine the field day the "News" would have had if Bush had said the same thing about a black officer arresting his white friend. Oh no...that racist GOP is at it again. The Obama Justice Dept. tried to justify targeting (profiling?) soldiers/veterans and radical conservatives as potential dangers to the United States. Can you imagine the uproar if Bush had targeted radical liberals? Instead, you hardly see a blip on the news about this profiling (except on Fox).

FYI, 41% of white men voted for Obama in the Presidential election (44% of whites overall) and 96% of blacks voted for Obama. You tell me which race has more prejudicial tendencies.

The Dems have played the race card and socio-economic cards forever.
If you vote against Obama or Sotamayor you must be racist...Right?
If you are against illegal immigration you must be anti-brown...Right?
If you are against more taxation of businesses (which is coming) then you must be anti-poor and anti-middleclass...Right?
Let's just forget that small businesses are by far the single largest job creator in the United States. Let's just forget that our representatives are supposed to do what's right for U.S. citizens, not illegal immigrants.

If you are anti-Union, you must be anti-Labor...Right? Nevermind that unions do not seem to care if their industry survives or their workers have long-term employment. Nevermind that we have enough laws to insure that if you are fired because of race, sexual orientation, pregnancy, or in some cases stupidity, you already have the right to sue your former employer.

If you are against the new health care bill, then you must not care about all of those that are uninsured...Right? Nevermind that a private company/insurer could never compete with a government entity that does not care if it loses money (see MediCare and Medicaid). Nevermind that a majority of the uninsured are illegal aliens or have the ability to insure but choose not to. Don't worry that your representative has not read the bill.

If you want to eliminate the Federal Dept. of Education you must be anti-Education...Right? Nevermind that States and localities make all of the Education decisions for your school district.

If you want everyone to have an income above the poverty line (no one is classified as "poor") then you must be a Democrat...Right? This is actually called Communism, where everyone has the same income and everyone is at the poverty line (except govt. officials).

The core GOP is simply pro-opportunity and pro-American. This is usually characterized by Dems as pro-rich and pro-white.

When the GOP can clarify their positions and rebut the slander of the Dems and the bias of the liberal U.S. media, then not even the threat of a Depression will allow a Democrat (as they stand today; Pelosi, Frank, Obama etc.) to be elected President.

If you want to refute my arguments in my previous post, then please do so...but do not generalize me or the GOP as racist without strong facts to back it up.

You are falling into that popular political strategy of ridiculing now, and asking questions later.

[jberryhill]

Are we talking St. Augustine?

Good catch. Yes. Settled by the Spanish, which is why when you say "white people", your friend here comes back with a reference to "Anglo-Saxons", because you have to remember that even some white people aren't the right kind of white people.

Well, maybe you can explain to me, why Jews are so obsessed on being Democrats!

Because when the majority of one party can't shut up about Jesus, and is praying for a nuclear war in Israel so that he'll come back, it probably gets on their nerves after a while.

[Gerry]

Good catch. Yes.

Okay, lets see if I can remember the rest of the quiz...honestly, no look up.

I want to say it was founded by Ponce de Leon. But I really can not remember if he was Portuguese or Spanish. I know he was trying to find the Fountain of Youth. All of this happened when the Europeans were claim crazy and expedition after expedition sailed to the colonies.

Or it may have been deSoto. I once had a enormous antique metal sign from a defunct deSoto dealership. Man, graphics during that time and era are just phenomenal.

Thanks for this post because it exemplifies the crazy BS that we see from many Dems and the likes of MSNBC, Keith Olberman, liberal media etc. Painting the GOP and Anglo-Saxons in general as racist, is a favorite pastime of Dems to keep the flames of race tension alive for political purposes.

I am hardly a dem. I am a realist.

I am a registered republican but now a "non-participant" by default...de fault of the previous administration.

but do not generalize me or the GOP as racist without strong facts to back it up.

Historically speaking, the Senate record and vote call should suffice on civil liberties, racial relations, and rights to vote.


Other than that, I am not sure what other strong facts would satisfy your thirst for proof.

[TheSnake]

Historically speaking, the Senate record and vote call should suffice on civil liberties, racial relations, and rights to vote.

I am not discussing the Republican Party of 40-50 years ago.

For every Sotamayor the Republicans don't vote for, there is a Clarence Thomas.
Under a Republican President, Black-Americans held the 2nd highest position in the Federal Govt. (Sec. of State, arguably), and it is a probability that if Colin Powell had wanted to run for President instead of Bush, he would have received the Republican Party nomination (and I would have voted for him). A generalization of the Senate record and vote does not make your point.

Please tell me how the comments from Obama about the white police officer arresting his friend push race relations forward?
Please tell me how the unprecedented expansion of the budget deficit will not interfere with the basic liberty to keep the wages/labor I earn (and my children).
Please tell me how the Justice Dept. profiling of war veterans and radical conservatives (by their own admission) does not fly in the face of civil liberties?
Please expound on how the blatant Democrat support of ACORN and the documented intimidation of "Black Panthers" at particular polling areas during the Presidential election, expands voters rights?

Whether you agree with some of the tough decisions Bush carried out or not, this does not change the Republican ideals and philosophy, and that philosophy does not include racism.

Again, I will repeat, the liberal news would be trumpeting throughout the U.S. with multiple "news" stations if Bush had increased the budget deficit to the unbelievable level we see now, or he had berated a black police officer without cause, or his Justice Dept. had profiled/targeted radical liberals, or Repubs. had supported an ACORN group rife will illegal activity, or KKK members with hoods had stood outside polling areas. It would be a fantastic opportunity to slam the unfeeling, uncaring Republican Party of racists...but when the Democrats support this type of activity apparently it just isn't that big of a deal.

Remember the Dan Rather forged document report/fiasco on Bush or the infamous Ted Koppel "look I found a North Vietnamese soldier that remembers fighting against the gallant John Kerry" exclusive report. WOW! As a historical document expert, I actually told a friend the day after the Rather "report" that the document looked forged. My god, the "official" document had no heading or title from the Air Force Base (it was blank). At least Fox News knows better than to wade into the Obama birth cert. controversy until there are concrete facts.

You seem to be a little one-sided in the blame game. I would conjecture that this is the insidious affect of the media downplaying the real problems of the Democrat agenda and at the same time expressly ignoring the real benefits of a Republican agenda.

I believe you may have partially answered one question from the many questions in my 2 prevous posts (Evidence that Republicans are racist?).
Perhaps you can answer in some detail the questions I have posed in this post.

[Gerry]

Um, seems when I say "traditionally" that should also be taken to imply "historically".

Why not discuss the republican party 40 or 50 years ago?

Does the name Jesse Helms, Strom Thurmon, and David Duke (along with others) seem too ancient to you?

No - if you voted against Obama or Sotamayor you are not racist. But if you were one of many that I heard say, "I'm not voting for a nigger" then yes - you're a racist.

No - if you voted against illegal immigration you are not anti-brown. But if you are one of many I hear refer to every Hispanic they see as illegal or mention you don't want your kids to go to school with a bunch of spics, then I would say you are anti-brown (also known as racist)

No - if you vote against increase taxes you are not anti-poor or anti-middleclass. But if you do not pay your taxes or are one of the millions who have not come to the realization that the two wars and the Medicare Part D (drug benefit) has never been paid then, where in the hell does the money come from to pay them? Do I want to pay more taxes? No.

Honestly, I am not sure where you are getting your information from if you think the majority of un-insured are illegals. Actually, many of you factoids seem to be lacking substance.

As for Obama and the police issue - he should not have spoken out period. It is no different than the person down the street from me getting arrested and Obama having thoughts to give to the press that day. Obama DID NOT make this a racial issue so take him out of the picture. The person being arrested did.

The unprecedented expansion of the budget deficit comes from having a $2 trillion surplus in 2000 to a deficit now thanks (once again) to two wars not paid for and an existing medical coverage plan enacted by Bush and signed into law a guarantee to have a prescription drug benefit - yes, a program that was NEVER FUNDED. At some point in time, these issues have to be paid for. Now is a hell of a time to get the IOU's but the bill was passed on to us and our children.

I am not qualified to discuss ACORN as I know only what the press has mentioned and for the Black Panthers matter - this is the first I am hearing of this.

I am hardly one sided in the blame game. But, heaven knows, for the last eight years of my life there seems to be only one party and one administration to blame.

Who, pray tell, do you want to blame for this country being in the shape it is in? Who or what?

As for asking me 12 or 20 questions, how about supporting your claims, your numbers, your figures.

Again, many of your factoids are plain wrong.

As for now, I am going to head outside to watch the space shuttle flying in the nightsky.

Perhaps I can get a good view of it. They launch path will be visible all along the east coast. From where I am in North Carolina, I am supposed to be able to see it looking low in the horizon to the south.

See, even us southern redneck republicans can still get excited about a few things here in North Carolina.

[Area52]

The reason I ask your age is because you seem like a teenage attempting to start a political thread.

It as if you, too, are just now coming to the realization that there is a large Hispanic based population in this country who are NOT illegal.

And here is something else I do not understand. You are a member of a forum that deals with words and every word has a perceived or inherent value to it.

When I read your words and offer a rebuttal, don't come back and write "you knew what I meant". Because the fact is, I did not. I read your words. I read what you typed out, not what you meant.

In the domain business, that would be called a typo and have less significant value.

What in the *uck are you talking about? Nut!

[Gerry]

Is this too much to handle?

When I read your words and offer a rebuttal, don't come back and write "you knew what I meant". Because the fact is, I did not. I read your words. I read what you typed out, not what you meant.

Sorry. I don't know any other way to put it, other than I read what you typed out, not what you meant [to type out].

[potus]

I voted McCain.

[Mike Cruz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVrI5waDWqo

[ordersomething]

I blame Patty S.