Obama - Mr. Fiscally Responsible

[Raider]

It's Election time!, Obama is out there proclaiming himself as fiscally responsible, "We need to get the deficit under control", the deficit that he and his party continue to rack up to the tune of over $3 TRILLION Dollars.


What does a trillion-dollar federal deficit really mean?


On Friday, the Obama administration reported that the federal budget deficit for Fiscal Year 2010, which ended on September 30, came in at about $1.294 trillion.

In light of that information, a few FAQs:

How does this compare with past deficits?

It's huge. That's down from the record $1.4 trillion deficit in Fiscal 2009. But it still represents the second-largest deficit in history. In 2007, the deficit was only about $160 billion.


Can we afford to service this debt?

As is the case with mortgages, it's not so much the amount of debt you carry but the interest rate you pay that determines whether national debt is affordable. Interest rates have fallen rapidly in the past two years, and the government issues a lot of short-term debt. Last week the Congressional Budget Office estimated that the government spent $228 billion on interest alone in Fiscal 2010. That's about what the government spent on debt service in Fiscal 2006, when the national debt was significantly smaller.


Why was the deficit smaller in fiscal 2010 than it was in fiscal 2009?

As the economy began to grow again, the amount of revenue the government collected grew for the first time since fiscal 2007 — by between 2 and 3 percent. Sharply rising corporate profits led to a large increase in the amount of corporate income taxes collected. Government expenditures fell for the first time since 1948.


Is the deficit "cyclical" or "structural"?

It's both. It's structural because, in the years before 2008, the system of taxes in place didn't collect enough money to pay for spending. Spending rose significantly in part thanks to the passage of the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the cost of waging two wars, and rising discretionary spending.

But cyclical factors — i.e. temporary factors related to the overall economic climate — exacerbated the structural deficit. When the economy falters, tax collections fall as corporate profits fall and the economy loses jobs, and expenditures on things like food stamps, Medicaid, and unemployment insurance rise. In 2008 and 2009, the U.S. suffered an extreme version of this cyclical condition. In fiscal 2009, revenues fell a stunning 16.6 percent.

The economic crisis also spurred extraordinary spending on initiatives like the TARP and the stimulus. And so in fiscal 2009, spending rose 17.9 percent. If revenues in fiscal 2010 had simply been even with the levels of 2007, the deficit would have been under $900 billion.


What does it mean for President Obama and the Democrats?

Not much good. The electorate doesn't seem poised to give President Obama and the Democrats much credit for reducing the deficit in fiscal 2010. For better or worse — mostly for worse — Obama and the incumbent Democrats now own the economy and the deficits politically.

The two options for reducing the deficit — slashing spending or raising taxes significantly — would likely cut into economic growth, thus dimming President Obama's chances for re-election in 2012.


What does it mean for Republicans?

Not much good, either. Republicans hope to recapture the House in November, which puts them in a position to be much more involved in the budget-making process. They've spent the last two years denouncing the rising deficits as a threat to America's economic well-being. But in order to extend all the existing tax cuts, they'll have to advocate for either (a) deficits that are as large or larger than the current ones; or (b) propose draconian and unpopular spending cuts.


What does it mean for you?

So far, not much. In theory, the existence of large deficits puts pressure on interest rates to rise and has the potential to ignite inflation. But interest rates have remained extraordinarily low, in part because the Federal Reserve has kept short-term rates near zero and investors fretting about uncertainty have parked cash in Treasury bonds. If signs of sustainable economic growth materialize, that could change. As Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, told the Associated Press: "If we get to 2013 and policymakers don't look like they have a credible plan to deal with the deficit, then interest rates are likely to rise significantly and that will jeopardize the recovery we have under way at that time."


What's going to happen to the deficit next year?

I have no idea. Predicting deficits is like predicting the weather a couple of weeks out. You can find models and data that will give you guidance, but there are no guarantees. And with the deficits, there are too many wild cards: the level of economic growth, the performance of the job market, and how well corporations fare. The biggest impact is likely to come from the volatile political sphere. All the tax cuts passed in 2001 and 2003 are poised to expire in January 1, 2011, as they were designed to do. The extension of some, all, or none, of them would lead to hundreds of billions of difference in projected revenue

[ksinclair]

Bush, with a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, put us into the 2nd worst depression ever.

You dont need to know anything else about Republicans, that says it all.

[Raider]

Bush, with a Republican majority in both houses of Congress, put us into the 2nd worst depression ever.

You dont need to know anything else about Republicans, that says it all.

How do you figure that when both houses of Congress were controlled by Democrats BEFORE (in your words) the 2nd worst depression ever?

Fact is, Democrats do nothing but TAX, SPEND and GROW the size of Government, they have a long proven history of it.

That budget surplus all you Democrats love giving Bill Clinton full credit for? That was a result of Republicans ruling Congress 6 of the last years Clinton served, The 104th Congress, 105th and the 106th Congress, their the ones who cut spending, and Clinton (to his credit) signed onto it.

Everything started going to hell when Democrats took control in 2006, LOOK IT UP, and it's gone deeper in hell since then.. Unemployment, the debt, Taxes... Everything continues to get WORSE, And you say it's the Republican's who are to blame?.

Get a ****ing education.

[bmugford]

Fact is, Democrats do nothing but TAX, SPEND and GROW the size of Government, they have a long proven history of it.

Right, and all the Republicans do is TAX CUT, SPEND, and GROW the size of government.
When Bush took office the national debt was 5.73T, when he left office it was 10.7T, adding almost 5T in 8 years.
There are also multiple unfunded long term liabilities like the Prescription Drug Bill.

It is amusing that everyone is so anti-deficit now. Adjusted to inflation the national debt was about the same from 1940-1980. Since 1980 it has ballooned straight up as a percent of GDP, starting with Reagan.

Republicans are not exactly beacons of fiscal responsibility. If they were serious about cutting the deficit and debt they could name programs they would cut instead of BS like "waste, fraud, and abuse".

Brad

[Raider]

Right, and all the Republicans do is TAX CUT, SPEND, and GROW the size of government. When Bush took office the national debt was 5.73T, when he left office it was 10.7T, adding almost 5T in 8 years.

Let's be clear, Bush added $1.9T to the ND in a 7 1/2 year period, $3T was added to the ND of the last 6 months for the purpose of repairing the MESS that Democrats got us in.

It is amusing that everyone is so anti-deficit now.

With Obama WASTING away $3 Trillion dollars in a matter of 18 months, most of which was blown on States, Government, Unions and Budget deficits, it's only natural for Americans to become ant-deficit.... Their worried, worried if their Children and Grandchildren will have the same opportunities they had, experiencing the American Dream.

As for BUSH bailing out Wall Street and the Auto Industry, NO true Conservative approved of it, including myself... But theirs some relief to the tax payer of what Bush did, a lot of that money is getting PAID BACK.... How much are we getting paid back from the $3T Obama blew in the last 20 months? NOTHING!.