Obama seeks $200 million to help cities host 9/11 trials

[Johnn]

By ANDREW TAYLOR

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON — The Obama administration is proposing a $200 million fund to help pay for security in cities that host the trials of suspected terrorists such as Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks.

The money will be included in a budget plan for 2011 of roughly $3.7 trillion that President Obama will submit to Congress Monday, a congressional aide said Saturday. The aide spoke on condition of anonymity.

The administration said late last year the trial of Mohammed and four others would take place in federal court in Lower Manhattan, near where the World Trade Center once stood. But because of growing opposition and rising costs, the administration now plans to hold the trial elsewhere.

New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg put the cost of tighter security at $216 million for just the first year after Mohammed and the others were to arrive from the U.S. military detention center at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba. New York City officials had warned of massive traffic jams because of the security that would have been required to host the trial.

Options for alternative trial sites include Alexandria, Va.

The Justice Department is looking at other sites, including some on military bases or at prison complexes.

Federal venue rules provide for wide leeway in choosing a location, requiring only "a plausible connection" between the crime and the district, said Stephen Vladeck, a law professor at American University.

Material from The New York Times is included in this report.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...ortrial31.html

[Compassion]

How about 200 million for a an actual investigation of 911?

[Raider]

What were doing here is insane, The World must be laughing at us right now.

Over $200 Million of our tax dollars wasted on these murdering scumbags? What a disgrace this is.... We should of put a bullet in their heads when they were caught, or made it look like a accident, That's right!, Or put them all on a plane, and have it accidently crash into the Bermuda Triangle, Let them feel what the innocent passengers felt when they knew they were going to die... I say end their lives right now so they can NEVER, EVER do what they did again.

Or better yet, drop them down a active volcano so they can feel how it feels to be burned alive.

Yeah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, "the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks" was going to plead guilty in a Military court, this was before the decision came down to bring him and others to New York City to stand trial..... Now were going to give this murdering bastard a microphone so he can spew his anti-American hatred against the USA, for all the world to see?

Leave it to a Liberal jackass like Obama.

[katherine]

Now were going to give this murdering bastard a microphone so he can spew his anti-American hatred against the USA, for all the world to see?

These people must be held accountable. The American public has the right to know don't you think ?
You should ask yourself why the previous administration set up Guantanamo unless it had something to hide and didn't want to be subject to US Law.
Justice must prevail and bush cheney et al should be sitting on the front bench as well

[Donald Aquilano]

Obama should have just stuck to the original plan of Military tribunals. If it was good enough for the Nazi's then its good enough for Islamic terrorists.

[Devil Dog]

What were doing here is insane, The World must be laughing at us right now.

Over $200 Million of our tax dollars wasted on these murdering scumbags? What a disgrace this is.... We should of put a bullet in their heads when they were caught, or made it look like a accident, That's right!, Or put them all on a plane, and have it accidently crash into the Bermuda Triangle, Let them feel what the innocent passengers felt when they knew they were going to die... I say end their lives right now so they can NEVER, EVER do what they did again.

Or better yet, drop them down a active volcano so they can feel how it feels to be burned alive.

Yeah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, "the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks" was going to plead guilty in a Military court, this was before the decision came down to bring him and others to New York City to stand trial..... Now were going to give this murdering bastard a microphone so he can spew his anti-American hatred against the USA, for all the world to see?

Leave it to a Liberal jackass like Obama.

How civilized of you.

[PRED]

How about 200 million for a an actual investigation of 911?

how about the money directed to the orphans and surviving partners from those who died in 911attacks ?
that also to include the hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women children killed in Iraq by allied bombing and terrorist bombing

how can an ivestigation cost that? surely there are secure courthouses already built? inside prisons too. the miltary is already there getting paid, like the police to protect. they work 24-7 shifts between them, so they don't need paying any extra
jusges and politicians are already on payroll

also put a cap on what the slime lawyers can charge

i know was spun, but this is what i didnt understand about obamas inaugartion, how on gods earth did it cost that, when all the security guys are getting paid anyway. secret service, police, army etc

the media did the broadcasting. where the hell did that money go. i do like obama, but that waste of money was disgusting imho

the irony id the whole guantanamo set up was HIGHLY illegal, in world law. its another good reason the U.S is too scared to sign up to the U.N international criminal court. because they break all the bloody rules themselves

[DomainsInc]

What were doing here is insane, The World must be laughing at us right now.

Over $200 Million of our tax dollars wasted on these murdering scumbags? What a disgrace this is.... We should of put a bullet in their heads when they were caught, or made it look like a accident, That's right!, Or put them all on a plane, and have it accidently crash into the Bermuda Triangle, Let them feel what the innocent passengers felt when they knew they were going to die... I say end their lives right now so they can NEVER, EVER do what they did again.

Or better yet, drop them down a active volcano so they can feel how it feels to be burned alive.

Yeah, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, "the self-described mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks" was going to plead guilty in a Military court, this was before the decision came down to bring him and others to New York City to stand trial..... Now were going to give this murdering bastard a microphone so he can spew his anti-American hatred against the USA, for all the world to see?

Leave it to a Liberal jackass like Obama.

I agree, its about time we bring back public hangings without trial.

[Compassion]

give the 200 million to all the first responders not receiving ample health care

[Raider]

Can you imagine what's going to happen if any of these guys get off? perhaps on a technicality only afforded to civilians?

This was a disastrous decision to try them in the USA, and everyone knows it.... If anyone here thinks it was the right decision, I'd sure like to hear it.

[Raider]

It seems our President is now having a change of mind, or should I say a closer look at the polls.


Obama Backtracks On NYC Terror Trials

Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York has finally started to listen to his constituents. Last November, U.S. Attroney General Eric Holder announced that five of the 9/11 terror suspects, including Kahlid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), would be tried in a civilian, Federal court in Manhattan, just blocks away from where the World Trade Center had once stood. The outrage was immediate by many New Yorkers, as well as across America.

President Obama stood by Holder's decision, arguing that it was in the best interest of all to demonstrate the soundness of the American justice system. However, as time passed the concerns for security and disruption of America's busiest city grew. The trial, expected to take up to three years to convene, could wind up costing New York City $1 billion dollars. Already cash-strapped due to the economy, Bloomberg has reversed his opinion and is now asking that the Federal government move the trial someplace else, or at least pay all expenses. There is also a growing bipartisan opposition in Congress to move the trials.

Originally, KSM and his fellows were to be tried at Guantanamo Bay before a military tribunal. The Bush Administration was originally rebuffed by the Supreme Court, but a later ruling in 2007 paved the way for the tribunals. In fact, as 2008 came to a close, the trial was underway, with Kahlid and the others pleading guilty and requesting the death penalty.

With the election of Barack Obama, all of George W. Bush's procedures were rebuffed. Eric Holder halted everything that had been in progress and began a 'review' of all previous policies.

After Bloomberg weighed in, the Obama Administration is now open to reconsidering their decision. Whether the trial will merely be moved to another Federal court location in the State of New York, or some other locale, or will it be handed back to the military is unknown yet. But the cage has been rattled and it seems that President Barack Obama is going to lose this battle.



N.Y. Officials: Sept. 11 Terror Trial in NYC 'Unlikely,' Obama Considering New Location

Just months after endorsing the Obama administration's plan to try five high-profile terror suspects in a New York City federal court, top New York officials now say the trial should be held elsewhere -- and that it probably will.

White House faces backlash over holding accused 9/11 mastermind's trial in NYC.Confronting political reality, the Obama administration is now looking for alternate locations to try alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four other high-value detainees being held at the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba.

New York Gov. David Paterson and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Friday that the anticipated cost of Hosting the trials -- and potential unwillingness of Congress to provide federal funds -- could spell economic disaster for the city, which already is facing a massive budget gap.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/911-t...ory?id=9697164

[Gerry]

Hmm...and all those enemy combatants that were captured, tortured, and then set free because they were not who they said they were? were not as important as they thought they were? had no useful intel?

And the ones set free by the Bush Admin. and the 90 to be released from Gitmo?

Drop those bastards down a volcano and let them be burned alive simply for being a suspect?

No, the world is not laughing at us now. They were laughing at us in 2003 when we, without provocation or evidence, invaded Iraq.

And the world was laughing for the next seven years as the previous administration scratched their asses and their heads (because they could not tell the two apart) wondering why the world is against us, why was al Qaeda and its sympathizers getting stronger, why terrorism struck the US and its allies on a global scale, and what did we do wrong.

The world is not laughing now. It is patiently watching our next steps in hopes that we do not make the same mistakes again, and in hopes we don't have another Cheney and Bush who said, in relation to countries around the world, "F*ck em. They don't count"

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the irony id the whole guantanamo set up was HIGHLY illegal, in world law. its another good reason the U.S is too scared to sign up to the U.N international criminal court. because they break all the bloody rules themselves

Its a damn sorry sight to see a Brit figure this sh*t out for us.

Brilliant!



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How civilized of you.

That was the Filipino justice system before they were liberated by the US during WWII.

As a matter of fact, that was their justice system long after. It is what the Filipino population did to any Japanese raced people they could find - threw their asses down inside their volcano.

You see, the Filipino population was pissed that we entered into a treaty with Japan and allowed them to surrender. They were so f*cking pissed we just didn't keep making those huge mushroom clouds in the Japanese Isles.

Never one to forgive, the Filipino's started rounding up all Japanese Tourists and their cameras.

Come to visit? F*ck you. Die, biatches. Yeah, take pictures of this!

Finally in the 1970's, Marcos said they had to stop throwing the bastards into the volcano because it was hurting tourism.

Thus, the reason Marcos was later deposed and fled the country with Imelda and 3000 pairs of shoes.

[Raider]

Drop those bastards down a volcano and let them be burned alive

I'm glad you like that one... I thought of so many other painful deaths for these terrorists, but this was my favorite.

And sorry I left out the interrogation methods, We would of course do that first before we drop them into the mountain of molten lava..... And NO Waterboarding, that's too good for these guys, We should do what the mafia does to get information, break their bones, and if that doesn't work, take a cleaver and start hacking away at their body parts, I mean, why waste all that good water right? LOL.

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Never one to forgive, the Filipino's started rounding up all Japanese Tourists and their cameras.

Come to visit? F*ck you. Die, biatches. Yeah, take pictures of this!

Finally in the 1970's, Marcos said they had to stop throwing the bastards into the volcano because it was hurting tourism.

Thus, the reason Marcos was later deposed and fled the country with Imelda and 3000 pairs of shoes.

Now that's funny

[katherine]

When you condone torture, you are stooping to the level of terrorists. If that's what the terrorists want, they have won hands down.