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Old 10-14-2008, 10:50 PM   #21 (permalink)
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You mean to say both parties were corrupted by this sub prime mess? Im shocked.
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Just glancing at the number of them on new posts is nauseating.

Many threads have the most views and replies.

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Every one has already made up their mind. Certainly the undecided are not going to be convinced by any of this nonsense.

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Old 10-22-2008, 03:19 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Its funny how the Democratic party is blaming the Bush administration.
So Bush bears no responsibility, in your view? He is president for 8 years, which is a long time. No responsibility there? Is that how it works, when you are Republican?

Bush had 8 years to make a difference, and he has not. Bush is very likely the weakest president of the modern era, and potentially one of the weakest of all time.
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So Bush bears no responsibility, in your view? He is president for 8 years, which is a long time. No responsibility there? Is that how it works, when you are Republican?

Bush had 8 years to make a difference, and he has not. Bush is very likely the weakest president of the modern era, and potentially one of the weakest of all time.
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Nixon took the US off the gold standard. Why isn't he given any blame?
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The Democratic party did open the gates to this mess.
What comic book are you reading these days?

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WASHINGTON - President Bush signed the biggest rewrite of U.S. bankruptcy law in a quarter century on Wednesday, making it harder for debt-ridden Americans to wipe out their obligations.

“Bankruptcy should always be a last resort in our legal system,” Bush said. “If someone does not pay his or her debts the rest of society ends up paying them."




Before Bush entered office the mega banks and CC companies were stroking each other and Bush because they knew their man was in office

Look at the date below!

Lobbying Campaign Led by Credit Card Companies and Banks Nears Bankruptcy Bill Goal

Published on Tuesday, March 13, 2001 in the New York Times

WASHINGTON - A lobbying campaign led by credit card companies and banks that gave millions of dollars in political donations to members of Congress and contributed generously to President Bush's 2000 campaign is close to its long- sought goal of overhauling the nation's bankruptcy system.

Legislation that would make it harder for people to wipe out their debts could be passed by the Senate as early as this week. The bill has already been approved by the House, and Mr. Bush has pledged to sign it.

Sponsors of the bill acknowledge that lawyers and lobbyists for the banks and credit card companies were involved in drafting it. The bill gives those industries most of what they have wanted since they began lobbying in earnest in the late 1990's, when the number of personal bankruptcies rose to record levels.

In his final weeks in office, President Bill Clinton vetoed an identical bill
, describing it as too tough on debtors. But with the election of Mr. Bush and other candidates who received their financial support, the banks and credit card industries saw an opportunity to quickly resurrect the measure.
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The bankers got real greedy.
You can blame democrats, republicans, bankers, wall st, etc. but it is individuals who took out loans they cannot afford and it is individuals who decide to invest their money in things like Fannie May. If individuals didn't take out the bad loans and invest their money in these schemes then it would not have happened.
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Don't Vote Obama
But I can not vote Palin.
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You can blame democrats, republicans, bankers, wall st, etc. but it is individuals who took out loans they cannot afford and it is individuals who decide to invest their money in things like Fannie May. If individuals didn't take out the bad loans and invest their money in these schemes then it would not have happened.
Predetory lending practices arent the purchasers fault. A lot of these guys didnt explain what would happen if house prices tanked. Also, If you're offered a mortgage that make houses cheaper to buy than rent for a year or two, you would be dumb not to buy it. You have nothing to lose.

This was the fault of Wall Street and the mortgage industry taking advantage of legislation they blatantly bought and paid for. They conned the Democrates into allowing sub prime loans, and the Republicans into deregulating wall Street. Once that was accomplished, the rip off of America was guaranteed.
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Earth to Gregcyber (if there is any hope left). Bush and the repubs controlled the presidency, the senate and the congress for 6 of the last 8 years.
Earth to Poker....The trouble with economy began happening during the last 2of those 8 years under a Democratic house and Senate..... And we have your friends Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to thank. HELLO!!!
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Earth to Poker....The trouble with economy began happening during the last 2of those 8 years under a Democratic house and Senate..... And we have your friends Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to thank. HELLO!!!

You have GOT to be kidding
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Obama is stealing your nest egg
No, Obama supporters are giving their nest eggs to Obama and Obama in turn will give them away to illegal immigrants standing in the welfare line, providing housing, health care, education and food stamps..... In turn, they keep voting Democrat to keep the flow of money and benefits.

Obama's America;

Take from those who work their a*s off and give it away to those who don't.

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Here's a interesting article in the Tennessean;

Democratic leadership playing politics with America's future


Fellow citizens, we are witnessing one of the most egregious scams in the history of politics. The majority of this current "financial crisis" falls squarely on the shoulders of corrupt Democrats, including Franklin Raines, Barney Frank, Chris Dodd (and numerous others), with the help of naive and ill-advised policy measures forced by Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

They pushed housing legislation and regulations, in the spirit of "fairness," to force the mortgage industry to lend money to people who simply could not afford houses. But, this is only the beginning — media darling Barack Obama and his corrupt "Acorn" are some of the very parties responsible, by pressuring banks to make unsafe subprime loans. (Google "Acorn" to read about this "community organizer" and what it really does). Not to mention that in a mere two and a half years, Obama has received the second highest in campaign contributions ($109,000) from Fannie and Freddie.


Raines, who is now an economic adviser for Obama, stole $100 million out of these now discredited engines of fraud. Where is the outrage from the American people? Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid and her leftist demagogues are blaming this current "financial crisis" on the Republicans and President Bush who had nothing to do with what has happened.

If they had, where are all the congressional hearings that the Democratic-controlled Congress would have no-doubt demanded? We have less than 35 days to go till the election — if you don't think this has anything to do with trying to get Obama elected, please stop watching the "main-stream-propaganda machine" that is playing up this entire scam exactly as Pelosi wants.

The mainstream media cannot be trusted and the American people must reject their efforts to liberalize this country with their biased reporting. Case in point — the Democrats had all the votes they needed to pass this horrendous "bailout bill" in order to save us from they call the "worst financial disaster since the Great Depression" and yet they didn't pass it (last Monday)!

Many Democrats, worried about getting re-elected, voted "no." Do you see what's happening here? They want this fiasco to go on as long as possible in order to convince the American people that we need "change" and that it's all the Republicans' fault. Nothing could be further from the truth and I pray that the American people will educate themselves on the truth: This massive scam is being used for political reasons to get Obama elected.

I'm not saying Republicans can do no wrong — they've failed in numerous ways, but this fiasco is not one of them. Wake up America — we're losing our country to greed, corruption and an alarming leap toward socialism.

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Wake up America — we're losing our country to greed, corruption and an alarming leap toward socialism.
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I consider myself very lucky.

I have received two of my 401K and 403b statements from two different hospitals I was working at.

Neither is managed at AIG. However, another I have not received and my wife's are managed by AIG. I am expecting major, major hits with those.

One I received is managed by T. Rowe Price who basically limits to Price funds. I am minus <11% for the quarter but still up +7.5% for the year.

The other is with Great North Western who offers numerous funds from a variety of firms. For the quarter, I am only <4% but for the year up +12.46%.

The point I am trying to make is this was good educated decisions. Each of the funds I am in were well thought out and some say I was bucking the trend and I should have gotten into this and that. Great! Jump into those REIT's and such while they are booming. That is EXACTLY when not to jump in. My accounts I am sure are doing better than the majority of the seven figure salary fund managers.

Point is, don't listen. Do the research yourself.

Yes, we had offers by the truckload and every institution in the country wanting to give us loans of 125% home value, credit card offers with 50K to 100K preapproved amounts.

We chose NO! People were out to make a quick buck and over extended themselves.

What is worse, the lending institutions did the same thing. It is all about greed and every one saw nothing but $$ signs in their eyes.

Be smart. Educate yourself in money matters, economics, health, politics and life. Don't follow the masses or be lined up like every one else and be swayed into doing what everyone else is doing. Don't become a mouth and a tool of the party. Surely to God you don't agree to everything they do and say.

It is way past time to wake up and open your eyes.
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No, Obama supporters are giving their nest eggs to Obama and Obama in turn will give them away to illegal immigrants standing in the welfare line, providing housing, health care, education and food stamps..... In turn, they keep voting Democrat to keep the flow of money and benefits.

Obama's America;

Take from those who work their a*s off and give it away to those who don't.

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McCain's America;

Same as Bush's - Take from those who work their a*s off and give it to Haliburton, a few banks, and the Bush dynasty.

Oh, and of course, he'll nip over to Afghanistan and capture that rascal Bin Laden...LAUGH MY ARSE OFF!
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Raider, I call that image of Obama & Karl Marx "desperate creativity". As a design, I like it.

Its message though is as good as this:

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