Obama wants a "civilian national security force"

[tas38]

(>>>>> How are you going to get developing countries like China and India to comply? >>>>>)

We are emitting the most green house gases, we also buy the most goods from the other top emitters like china. Meaning passing laws to insure green trade is cheaper, then dirty trading of goods so we have lots of options there. We only need to insure all goods are made green, and all goods are green goods that they import to us.

And seeing how china gets that already, and they have their hand out for help to go green. In fact china has been getting lots of help already, to go green and want to go green, as they know the markets are going green. They will be able to sell green goods, that is going to be a money makers for them.

[Area52]

That is your first mistake.

All you are doing is assuming what this is all about when you have no real knowledge.

Your dislike for Obama would blind you from any real truth unless it was negative towards Obama.

You assume alot yourself, as*hole. You have the audacity to insult me, bash my post and claim to know how I think, without one bit of evidence of what that cockeyed proposal is about. The truth is that the hate some of you guys have for Bush blinds you from seeing that Obama is big on talk and "ZERO" on substance.

There is also the fact that some posters are just looking for a fight. Deep down they don't really care who wins. They just like to argue for the sake of arguing and to chaulk up another post. I think those posters are fairly obvious.

I am a U.S citizen and like many others, I care about the future of this country. As you know, our country is probably in one of the most serious situations in it's history. I don't dislike Obama. I just don't want him to be President of the United States. There are a multitude of reasons why. I even agree with some of his positions such as nuclear energy, but overall I don't believe he is the best person for this job. No Obama supporter on these forums has posted anthing that would change my mind about that. In fact, many of those posts, including those from Obama detractors, are immature, arrogant, mad dog responses with no supporting information (including your post), that frankly, turn alot of people off.

I try to post information that viewers might use in making a decision on who to vote for. I give my opinions. That is my right. If someone can post factual information that sheds further light on, or disputes what I have posted, I welcome that. Post elsewhere if your just looking to make enemies instead of finding out the truth.

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[steveto]

The Civilian National Security Force is part of the Millions of new jobs Obama plans to create... "Goverment Jobs"

Take jobs from the private sector and move them to the public sector, Another act of Socialism.

What's wrong with socialism?

You borrow social safety nets such as welfare....Americans are asking for universal healthcare (safety net again) ..

I'm a bit confused? Have you ever lived in a socialist country?

Sometimes you have to do certain things to make it work...that might mean to change the system..probably a temporary basis. Better than doing nothing or something that won't work.

NOTE: I currently live in a Socialist country and have been for the past 5 years. It's not that bad. You get what you put in which pretty much sums it up.

[lordbyroniv]

Wow, we are doomed if people vote for obama becuase they think like this lady

hey dr. manhattan -

looking forward to the upcoming watchmen movie?

[cursal]

Take jobs from the private sector and move them to the public sector, Another act of Socialism.

If there were jobs in the private sector of the US.
The unemployment is up around 6.x+ and expected hit 9%.

As for socialism, the current Republican administration has caused the greatest socialist move (albeit temporary-hopefully) in over 60 years. Nationalization of the Home Mortgage Business and the banks, and an insurance company. Um, if that isn't corporate socialism I don't know what is.

I say Tax the rich, we just gave the elite rich $700,000,000,000 of our future taxes to balance a system that they said they could self regulate. So let's balance that out by having the elite rich pay for more of it. Elite rich = the 2% that are still getting the bush tax cuts.

Nobody knows what is going on in Washington.
Even the players don't know what deals and dirtiness they are all up to.

[Gerry]

Civilian, as in "non military"

God Bless those that get their news from YouTube.

And we're going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered and double the size of the Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy. We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.

Seems to me to be a lot like Bush's post 9-11 speech calling for national volunteerism

If you want to read the full speech it is located here.

Civil Service workers and government employees are not military.

So difficult for some to grasp.

For a minute there, I thought, "Thank God, we are bringing back the Minutemen and Colonial Militias."

I was hoping I would find a use for my Kentucky Long Rifle.

[Raider]

If you want to read the full speech it is located here.

Thank you for telling us where we should and should not get our news.

After your remarkable discovery of the Fox News Channel, I no longer trust new sources, tape recorders or anything Obama says.. From now on, I will only listen to you

[Gerry]

Thank you for telling us where we should and should not get our news.

After your remarkable discovery of the Fox News Channel, I no longer trust new sources, tape recorders or anything Obama says.. From now on, I will only listen to you

By all means, please continue to use YouTube. Pictures seem to help you tremendously.

[Keyword Factory]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4PmO9Pavqc

[Raider]

By all means, please continue to use YouTube. Pictures seem to help you tremendously.

Oh NO!... From now on, I'm going to log onto to DNF and get my news from you, the almighty one.

[Gerry]

Oh NO!... From now on, I'm going to log onto to DNF and get my news from you, the almighty one.

What ever makes you happy. It is apparently all about you.

I think everyone has seen you now.

[Ehsan]

Why watch a movie based on fiction when you can watch a moronic idiot in real life?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap2Cg_FDRy4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5R6kVry4_c

if you call W fiction then baby you are living a fictional life

Let me guess he'll probably institute a draft to fill this "civilian national security force". Obama's version of brown shirts. He's as nutty as a fruitcake.

Me and my brother are going to be stockpiling ammo if Obama gets in.

so you can shoot yourself or you want to go to Vietnam as am MAVERICK

[cursal]

There is a new Bill that was introduced into congress last year on Jan 11 called
"H.R. 393 Universal National Service Act"

On Jan 10th (the day before)they passed H.R.424 To Repeal the Military Selective service Act. Mainly this was done to allow/require women into the services of the gov. The old selective service was unequal and did not allow women.

When you read over HR 393 it does contain a mandatory time spent in either military or civilian National Service of the country. This appiles to those between the ages of 18-42 (sec:102)

This in NOT an OBAMA plan, this is a congressional plan.
The vague outline of duties the President has in this bill is where the real trouble lies.
I suggest people do the Due Diligence on this issue.

If passed:
You will get to choose which service you would like to serve: Military or Cilivian, unless at time of war, whereby you will need to state you wish to be a consciousness observer and your reasons why or you will go to the Military to serve.

Things get more "scary" as you read the bill as it is written now
But this is in on the list of bills for Congress to consider and vote on in the future.

G search to get you goin

[Donald Aquilano]

if you call W fiction then baby you are living a fictional life



so you can shoot yourself or you want to go to Vietnam as am MAVERICK

I know how to handle a gun. My reason for stockpiling ammo is in case Obama gets in and wants to create his own version of brown shirts I'll be ready when they come for me.

"W" is based on true events. Which usually means they make most of it up for entertainment purposes. Oliver Stone doesn't have a good track record when it comes to the truth.

[DomainsInc]

You assume alot yourself, as*hole. You have the audacity to insult me, bash my post and claim to know how I think, without one bit of evidence of what that cockeyed proposal is about. The truth is that the hate some of you guys have for Bush blinds you from seeing that Obama is big on talk and "ZERO" on substance.

There is also the fact that some posters are just looking for a fight. Deep down they don't really care who wins. They just like to argue for the sake of arguing and to chaulk up another post. I think those posters are fairly obvious.

I am a U.S citizen and like many others, I care about the future of this country. As you know, our country is probably in one of the most serious situations in it's history. I don't dislike Obama. I just don't want him to be President of the United States. There are a multitude of reasons why. I even agree with some of his positions such as nuclear energy, but overall I don't believe he is the best person for this job. No Obama supporter on these forums has posted anthing that would change my mind about that. In fact, many of those posts, including those from Obama detractors, are immature, arrogant, mad dog responses with no supporting information (including your post), that frankly, turn alot of people off.

I try to post information that viewers might use in making a decision on who to vote for. I give my opinions. That is my right. If someone can post factual information that sheds further light on, or disputes what I have posted, I welcome that. Post elsewhere if your just looking to make enemies instead of finding out the truth.

I apologize for offending you. It wasn't my intention. I just get tired of reading post after post from McCain supporters who take a snipit of what Obama has said and expand on it like its Obama's thoughts and not their own. Its your right to voice your interpretation sure but its also my right to remind everyone thats all it is. I like Obama, if I were American I'd vote for him though he is far from perfect. I also love America and most Americans. I want nothing more than to see America continue to thrive.

[tldrental]

I watched "W", I am a registered democrat. I am voting McCain.

I voted Democrat all my life until now, As I said I watched "W" and my opinion in this film that was created by a flaming liberal portrays Bush in a better light then expected.

His biggest wrong was putting arrogant SOB's around him.

If you have watched this film the way they portrayed Collin Powell is exactly the same guy that we saw on the television some weeks back talking about why he is voting for Obama.

I viewed this film as a Pro Bush movie, not an Anti Bush movie. Passing the blame to the enigmas that surrounded him.

Ultimately it is Bush's fault for not surrounding himself around the right people. We as a nation have witnessed what happens if the president has the wrong influence.

Which is why I am not voting for Obama, I can not trust that Obama will be able to surround himself with people who really want the best for this country the way you and I know it.

Obama will have to depend on on his team more so then any other president in our past, because his lack of experience.

The truth is that Voting for Obama, is like voting for BUSH...AKA "JR." or "W"

I say this becuase Obama voted present how many times? Now we expect him to make a decision as our leader, why?

Now that he is cornered back to wall he will no longer be able to vote "PRESENT" and it will be the wolves behind the scenes to puppeteer Obama on strings worse then our current President Bush.

We do need CHANGE, the change we need is a president that has the ability to stand on his own feet, right or wrong, stand on there own to feet.

This movie is surely a mix of non fiction and fiction with a lot of political filler. You can check it out for free here
http://filmhill.com/redirect.php?url...om/?v=R12ME8Q1

[jasdon11]

His biggest wrong was putting arrogant SOB's around him.

If you have watched this film the way they portrayed Collin Powell is exactly the same guy that we saw on the television some weeks back talking about why he is voting for Obama.

I viewed this film as a Pro Bush movie, not an Anti Bush movie. Passing the blame to the enigmas that surrounded him.

Ultimately it is Bush's fault for not surrounding himself around the right people. We as a nation have witnessed what happens if the president has the wrong influence.

I see what you're saying, but you have it the wrong way round; he didn't surround himself with them, they chose him as their puppet.

They are the Neoconservatives that run the whole show behind the scenes - from factions of the security services to large swathes of the media.

[tldrental]

I see what you're saying, but you have it the wrong way round; he didn't surround himself with them, they chose him as their puppet.

They are the Neoconservatives that run the whole show behind the scenes - from factions of the security services to large swathes of the media.

You make a good point and it has some credence. But my point still applies even more so now that you brought up this great point.

We can already see Obama is backed by the best oiled machine ever in our countries history. Now we have the polar opposite on the other side of the "Neoconservatives" carrying Obama into power.

I am telling you guys there is more similarities between bush and obama then people notice.

McCain does have a small track record of standing on his own to feet and fight his own party.

I feel he will continue to do so as president, and will be less afraid to buck his party for getting out of line, because now he will wont fear them and feel he has to make concession with the republicans to become president anymore.

Voting for McCain is more like voting for Clinton navigating the middle ground for all parties minus a blowjob!