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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Dog View Post
    What about the 41xx military dead and the thousands of upon thousands Iraqis killed? Is that Clinton's fault also?
    ....and so he waits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    8 years of ignoring terrorist threats is what brought us 911... That's a fact.
    This was more the CIA's fault than anything. Also, what did Bush do in the nine months he was president to address the threats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    As for the state of the economy? NO. As for National Security? YES.
    Not really. We're all suffering one of the worst cases of financial terrorism in the United States of America. Not very nationally secure. And it's kinda hard to fund a war with a penny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Dog View Post
    What about the 41xx military dead and the thousands of upon thousands Iraqis killed? Is that Clinton's fault also?
    We would not be in Iraq today if Clinton had taken custody of Bin Laden which the Saudis wanted him to do. The deaths of are soldiers in Iraq have been caused by terrorist groups led by Al qaeda. Don't bother telling me otherwise.

    You know it's sad to say but your first and hopefully the last marine that I find with liberal politics. Every marine I know and have met is gung ho and wants to kick the terrorists asses. They don't want to leave Iraq until the job is finished either. Not so with you. Am I reading you wrong here or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    We would not be in Iraq today if Clinton had taken custody of Bin Laden which the Saudis wanted him to do. The deaths of are soldiers in Iraq have been caused by terrorist groups led by Al qaeda. Don't bother telling me otherwise.

    You know it's sad to say but your first and hopefully the last marine that I find with liberal politics. Every marine I know and have met is gung ho and wants to kick the terrorists asses. They don't want to leave Iraq until the job is finished either. Not so with you. Am I reading you wrong here or what?
    Look here bright one. Al Qaeda in Iraq did not exist until we invaded Iraq. Get the picture?
    Just because you've read some article on foxnews does not make you well versed in the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Dog View Post
    Look here bright one. Al Qaeda in Iraq did not exist until we invaded Iraq. Get the picture?
    My whole point was we wouldn't be there if Clinton had of taken the gift offered to us by the Saudis, Osama Bin Laden. What don't you understand about what I wrote their smartypants?

    BTW....Bill Clinton admitted he was offered Bin Laden but didn't want him. I didn't get this info from Fox News either. I guess I should just give up. No one here wants to hear truth anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    My whole point was we wouldn't be there if Clinton had of taken the gift offered to us by the Saudis, Osama Bin Laden. What don't you understand about what I wrote their smartypants?

    BTW....Bill Clinton admitted he was offered Bin Laden but didn't want him. I didn't get this info from Fox News either. I guess I should just give up. No one here wants to hear truth anyway.
    Ok, once again. What does Osama have to do with Iraq? NOTHING.

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    The bottom line on 911 is this;

    If Bill Clinton would of done what George Bush did in fighting Al-Qaida, The Twin Towers would still be standing and over 3000 innocents would be living today, Bush did what Clinton REFUSED to do and that is to protect America.

    No Terrorist attacks against the USA since 911... The facts speak for themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by meganerd View Post
    Not really. We're all suffering one of the worst cases of financial terrorism in the United States of America. Not very nationally secure. And it's kinda hard to fund a war with a penny.
    Protecting our National security against Terrorist attacks.

    It's true that Bush has done very little to relieve our dependence on Foreign oil.. I'll concede to that.
    Last edited by Raider; 09-15-2008 at 12:07 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


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    Hey Darren, I appreciate your views on the Iraq situation and since you're actually involved I was wondering if you can give us some insight of how some of the others there feel about it.....and who they support in the upcoming election. Thanks, and be assured that I'm like many here who don't approve of our being over there but do respect and honor all of our service people involved. Be careful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    Protecting our National security against Terrorist attacks.
    And that takes money.....

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    By the way, here's a cool widgety thing I just found:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2...al-candidates/
    Last edited by Tia Wood; 09-15-2008 at 12:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    The bottom line on 911 is this;

    If Bill Clinton would of done what George Bush did in fighting Al-Qaida, The Twin Towers would still be standing and over 3000 innocents would be living today, Bush did what Clinton REFUSED to do and that is to protect America.

    No Terrorist attacks against the USA since 911... The facts speak for themselves.
    No Terrorist attacks against the USA since 911...and you think that that is due to a war being fought thousands of miles away, dear me...you've fallen for the old protection racket that Bushy is running.

    You know, I wouldn't be suprised if there is another 'terrorist' attack before election time comes around. Nothing major, maybe a dozen or so deaths. Just enough to remind people about who's 'protecting' them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meganerd View Post
    By the way, here's a cool widgety thing I just found:

    http://projects.washingtonpost.com/2...al-candidates/
    Interesting, Obama is raising and spending nearly double the cash that McCain is and he's still trailing in the polls.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasdon11 View Post
    No Terrorist attacks against the USA since 911...and you think that that is due to a war being fought thousands of miles away, dear me...you've fallen for the old protection racket that Bushy is running.
    No, It's because we've been hunting down Al-Qaida terrorists for the past 7 years. It's no secret that Al-Qaida was at it's strongest under Clinton and is at it's weakest under Bush, The terrorist organization is falling apart.

    Quote Originally Posted by jasdon11 View Post
    [B]You know, I wouldn't be suprised if there is another 'terrorist' attack before election time comes around. Nothing major, maybe a dozen or so deaths. Just enough to remind people about who's 'protecting' them.
    I doubt that would happen, It would seal Obama's fate for good, The Terrorists dont want McCain to win, they WANT Obama as our next President.

    Remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    I doubt that would happen, It would seal Obama's fate for good, The Terrorists dont want McCain to win, they WANT Obama as our next President.

    Remember that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    I doubt that would happen, It would seal Obama's fate for good, The Terrorists dont want McCain to win, they WANT Obama as our next President.

    Remember that.
    Why would they want Obama as our next president?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meganerd View Post
    Why would they want Obama as our next president?
    It's obvious isn't it. Obama is weak when it comes to foreign policy. Al Qeada will be able to rebuild under an Obama Administration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    And cripple the economy in the process.
    How is the Bush economy doing for us? McCain seems to think all is well. The same idiots who got us in the mess we are in right now would be advising McCain. Every financial institution we have is in turmoil and all due to Bush falsifying a "great economy." Personally I think they should all go to jail rather than getting million dollar parachutes as their companies get bailed out. Bush Cheney admin and anyone who is crazy enough to vote for any republican in any coming election should be jailed as well. 6 years of Republican control bankrupting 100+ year old financial institutions right and left. woohoo give us 4 more!
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    Just think if the people of America would of REQUESTED the attackers of the Trade Center be captured in the 90s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devil Dog View Post
    What about the 41xx military dead and the thousands of upon thousands Iraqis killed? Is that Clinton's fault also?
    Not to mention the tens of thousands Iraqi casualties. The US has caused much more damage abroad than a single 9-11.
    You see, respect is a two-way street. Treat other as you would like to be treated.
    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    We would not be in Iraq today if Clinton had taken custody of Bin Laden which the Saudis wanted him to do. The deaths of are soldiers in Iraq have been caused by terrorist groups led by Al qaeda. Don't bother telling me otherwise.
    Remind me what the troops are doing in Iraq ?
    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    You know it's sad to say but your first and hopefully the last marine that I find with liberal politics. Every marine I know and have met is gung ho and wants to kick the terrorists asses. They don't want to leave Iraq until the job is finished either. Not so with you. Am I reading you wrong here or what?
    Sure we all know there a huge waiting line of motivated, healthy men willing to sacrifice themselves for the sake of bush power et al. What are you waiting for

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    Quote Originally Posted by bd77 View Post
    It's obvious isn't it. Obama is weak when it comes to foreign policy. Al Qeada will be able to rebuild under an Obama Administration.
    Over 200,000 went to listen to Obama's speech in Germany. Obama was against the Iraq war from the start because he, like many of us, knew that it was wrong. Most of the world was against the Iraq war because the Bush administration failed to make it's case and this proved to be accurate as Saddam didn't have the claimed WMDs and was NEVER connected to 9/11 even though Bush, Cheney and company alluded to this. Amazingly many Americans still think Saddam was involved in 9/11.

    Thanks to Bush the next president will be straddled with so much debt it is sickening. We've spent hundreds of billions of dollars to occupy Iraq. The Iraq war will go down as one of worst political decisions in modern history. Bush and McCain are more than happy to run up huge debts to finance this quagmire yet balk at paying more for veteran's health care and education. Or is McCain going to raise taxes or cut social programs to continue paying for this madness?

    As far as taxes go we have to start paying for things rather than borrowing from other countries to float our debts. Ya, Bush cut taxes but increased spending and for all things to destroy a country through war and occupation. Just think if we would have invested that money into our infrastructure, schools, and our health care system how much stronger America would be. But hey that's being LIBERAL.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregcyber View Post
    Just think if the people of America would of REQUESTED the attackers of the Trade Center be captured in the 90s.
    Wanna talk about the links of George Bush (call me Herbert Walker 1988-1992) to the Saudi oil sheiks ?

    Let's not forget that the 11 hijackers of the planes that crashed on 9/11 were from Saudia Arabia. NONE from Iraq, the country blamed for having WMD etc. etc.

    Funny how you want to shift the blame from one president that caused harm to the one that came to fix it (Clinton).

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