Obama's Slow Response to Horizon Oil Disaster

[draggar]

I never said that he ordered them and I didn't intend to insinuate that. But - the real issue is should we be concerned about Obama's response time or the government's? If the answer is Obama then should he get involved with every accident that happens?

We had an overturned fuel tanker over the weekend - should he get involved with that?

A small plane crashed into a house here - should he get involved with that?

There was a 5.7 or 5.8 magnitude earthquake in Puerto Rico Sunday morning - should he get involved with that?

BTW - George Bush (the first one) was criticized for his slow response to the Exxon Valdez spill (and incase people forgot, he is a republican) so it's clearly not a democrat / republican issue.

[fab]

Again the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, and others give the US government responsibility, as well as the colossal amount of damage involved.

[Gerry]

Looks like I struck a major nerve, so big that Doc actually changed his Sig this time.


Personal insults filled with disgusting profanity is just what Doc does when the TRUTH is staring him in the face.... But I wont lower myself to his level, No need too, I already won.

Struck a major nerve? Hell no. That's called the funny bone. I can not believe you want me and everyone else to believe that the GOP Governors of the Gulf States are afraid of Obama.

You have just provided me with the best punch line and sig (thus far) for 2010.

Oh, no...you won't stoop to insults, name calling, swearing.

You should change your name to Precious because your Little Miss Innocent routine is simply Precious.

Gee, let me see...GulfWaterfront is at least 4 years old. I regged it because I predicted this oil spill...in my dreams!

You are such a tool.

Good luck in 2012.

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Again the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, and others give the US government responsibility, as well as the colossal amount of damage involved.

33 U.S.C. §2702 et seq. (1990)

The Oil Pollution Act (OPA) of 1990 streamlined and strengthened EPA’s ability to prevent and respond to catastrophic oil spills. A trust fund financed by a tax on oil is available to clean up spills when the responsible party is incapable or unwilling to do so. The OPA requires oil storage facilities and vessels to submit to the Federal government plans detailing how they will respond to large discharges. EPA has published regulations for aboveground storage facilities; the Coast Guard has done so for oil tankers. The OPA also requires the development of Area Contingency Plans to prepare and plan for oil spill response on a regional scale.

Of course, nothing is as simple as the outline from the EPA.

This is a very general narritive outlines onshore and offshore duties.

[Raider]

I can not believe you want me and everyone else to believe that the GOP Governors of the Gulf States are afraid of Obama.

I never said that... I'm seriously starting to think you suffer from some form of dyslexia. What I said was, that's what I would think if I was Governor.

But I really like your logic here; "If a Politician doesn't criticize other politicians it should mean they are in no way negligent" I'm obviously arguing with a complete FOOL, who's only purpose in life is to serve as a warning to others.

Oh, no...you won't stoop to insults, name calling, swearing.

No, I don't think I ever called you a skank or whore who gives blowjobs and licks asscracks, Are these fetishes your not getting at home?. You might want to teach your dog new tricks, if you haven't already.

NO, Only a sick perverted old retard like you would say such disgusting crap.

Gee, let me see...GulfWaterfront is at least 4 years old. I regged it because I predicted this oil spill...in my dreams!

Yeah, Gee.. You decided to use GulfWaterfront.com as your Sig after 4 years and develop it right after the Gulf Oil Spill happened... What a coincidence. Your such a pathetic low-life, Capitalizing on a tragic event like this. And you wanted us to think you were this good person with high morals during the V-Tech Shootings. What a fraud you are.

I never said that he ordered them and I didn't intend to insinuate that.

You definetely suggested it in your posts....

But - the real issue is should we be concerned about Obama's response time or the government's? If the answer is Obama then should he get involved with every accident that happens?

We had an overturned fuel tanker over the weekend - should he get involved with that?

A small plane crashed into a house here - should he get involved with that?

There was a 5.7 or 5.8 magnitude earthquake in Puerto Rico Sunday morning - should he get involved with that?

Again, None of your comparisons are even comparable to this, Any accident that has the potential to threaten the public, the environment and the economy as this distaster clearly does, The Federal Government has a duty and a obligation to act on it. As for Earthquakes, do we not send Federal assistance and aid to States & Foreign Countries when these tragedies occur?

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when the responsible party is incapable

You just hung yourself again... The size of the oil spill was bigger than the size of Jamaica by the time Obama uttered a word about it... You would think the moron and his administration would recognize BP was incapable when the spill reached the size of Rhode Island.

How much more evidence could there possibly be that BP did not have this under control? Would the Oil have to reach the White House Lawn before the Obama administration took notice and acted on it?

Well brains?

[Gerry]

No, no, no...

I didn't say that.

I didn't do that.

Jesus, Precious. I don't have nor do I want to take the time to go back in this thread and rehash anything you said or did.

It's all right there, unless you edited it out.

Forget Obama...this is Bush/Cheney...yes, the gift that keeps on giving, just like your vaginal herpes.

This will be coming out as Cheney's Katrina...


For your reading enjoyment, may I present to you a tale of:

• female employees engaged in sexual "favors" while representing the US Government
• use of alcohol while representing the US Government
• use of Marijuana while representing the US Government
• use of Cocaine while representing the US Government
• accepting of bribes and gifts unreported while representing the US Government
• working for the oil companies and under payroll while representing the US Government
• allowing a close friend to not only create a position for themselves, but to write their own job description and a starting salary of $150,000 without ever working a day in that position
• a director of a department who encouraged his employees to party with, sleep with, drink with, and snort with
• an entire department who adamantly claimed they were not doing anything wrong
• department directors who allowed confidential bids and secret documents to be seen by people in the industry they were supposed to regulate
• department directors who allowed confidential bids to be "upset" and "amended" after the fact costing the US Government billions per year in royalties
• "girls" in the department who did not feel they were having inappropriate relationships and considered them just one night stands
• one female director who also had an outside employment with Passion Parties, Inc (selling sensual products and planning parties) approved by her supervisor.
• accepting gifts and bribes and trips from the contractors whom this department had oversight and being paid as if time spent on the job.

Sounds too good to be true and sounds like a great hollywood script.

But it is not, yet...

I give to you not one, not two, not three, BUT FOUR! OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT DOCUMENTS outling the investigation of the Office of the Inspector General (OIG)of the United States investigating the complete failure of ethics and accountability of the Minerals Management Department (MMS) of George W. Bush from the years of 2000-2006 with the final report given in the fall of 2008.

An investigation that lasted two years, cost taxpayers $5.9 million dollars, and did not result in a single prosecution or conviction because the Department of Justice did not want to prosecute..

This is the same agency that grants offshore and onshore leases. This is part of the same agency and committee under the direct leadership, chair, and supervision of Dick Cheney's secret Energy Task Force created without vote in 2001. Dick Cheney, who in 2001, decided that the use of safety devices on rigs needed further study and who, in 2003, decided that they were "too costly".

Yes, that same MMS department who, under the direct leadership and oversight of Dick Cheney, became known as one the most corrupt government agencies in US history. A department of corruption, bribes, and where employees traded cocaine and sex for lucrative oil contracts.

This was truly shocking and unbelievable reading and absolutely hilarious. It was only after these employees were told the would not face criminal charges, they did not shut up and then began telling the truth!

And every one of them took their cues from their own clueless boss(es) (Bush and Cheney) and played dumb and acted like they didn't do a damn thing wrong.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...091001829.html

If you read nothing else for the rest of your night,
you must read this!
I assure you it will not only make your blood boil,
but will have you laughing out loud in complete
hysteria,
bewilderment,
and amazement
at the same .
Yes, I want to be a "carnival barker" when I grow up.

The Investigation of the Director of MMS
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...T2008091002738

The investigation of the "MMS Chicks"
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...T2008091002738

The Investigation of the Improperly Awarded Contracts
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...T2008091002738

The Investigative Overview
http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-s...T2008091002738

IF you do not like those links, these documents are also available for viewing directly on the Official The Department of the Interior, Office of Inspector General's website such as this:

http://www.doioig.gov/upload/Smith%2..._10%20date.pdf

Yea, o yea, lets hear those birther ****s now proclaiming these documents have been forged.


And how hard was this to dig up?

As easy as googling Dick Cheney and MMS.

Boom! There it is...!


So stick this where the sun don't shine and no man dares to venture, Precious.

This belongs to you, Dick, and your sugar tit daddy Dubya, your trick on NOLA, and all the other birthers and tea baggers out there.

Perhaps this is the real reason the GOP has not been too vocal on this.

[Raider]

No, no, no...

I didn't say that.

I didn't do that.

Jesus, Precious. I don't have nor do I want to take the time to go back in this thread and rehash anything you said or did.

It's all right there, unless you edited it out.

That's right, it's all right there with time stamps... Of course you would never go back and look because you would look like a complete ASS if you did.

Next time, try slowing down and READING what is actually written and you wont come off look like a clueless jack ass. Or maybe seek some treatment for that dyslexia problem you have.

When the argument is completely LOST... Leave it to Doc to use the "Blame Bush" card. Yeah, it was Bush that held Obama hostage for 12 days that prevented him from performing his duties as Commander in Chief... What a ***king idiot.

Are you really this DUMB to think this will detract from Obama incompetence?

Sorry to say, but it will never detract from the fact this President was asleep for 9 days while 500 Barrels of crude oil PER DAY was making it's way toward our precious coast lines. That's a FACT, and all the "Spin" you want to put on it wont change it.

I know your not going to change your mind about Obama's LATE response, but if you do change your mind, make sure you throw the diaper away OK?, I think your house stinks up enough as it is with you in it.

[Gerry]

That's right, it's all right there with time stamps... .

Damn right, precious.

Damn right.

Here is some of your "bush card" playing:


Now what you seem to forget is; Bush never proclaimed himself as a Environmentalist, Bush was a Oil Man and on the side of Big Oil remember?



So, why is it that the Governors of the Gulf States who are all Republicans and who are all potential 2012 Presidential Candidate against Barack Obama; why have these men not taken shots at the current administration's lack of response to the oil spill?

Could it be because their asking for FEDERAL assistance on cleaning up the mess?


Once more, why have the four states threatened ALL WITH REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS not banned together to create one huge voice declaring this as Obama's cluster ****.

If I was the Governor of one of these Gulf States and needed all the Federal assistance I could get, I wouldn't be pointing fingers toward a vindictive person like Obama either, that would be the last thing I'd do.... Every one knows the Man has a long history of retaliating against those who trash him, Just ask the people he trashed, people who suddenly get hit with a string of IRS audits.

I wouldn't put it past the Obama administration if they gave orders to clean up the States that didn't trash him and ignore the States that did.

I can not believe you want me and everyone else to believe that the GOP Governors of the Gulf States are afraid of Obama.

I never said that... I'm seriously starting to think you suffer from some form of dyslexia. What I said was, that's what I would think if I was Governor.


Oh? Where did this statement come from?
Do you want us to play the fool and think that is still you talking on behalf of the governors?


Every one knows the Man has a long history of retaliating against those who trash him, Just ask the people he trashed, people who suddenly get hit with a string of IRS audits.

I wouldn't put it past the Obama administration if they gave orders to clean up the States that didn't trash him and ignore the States that did.

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Once more, with clarity...

this is not going to be "Obama's Katrina" because you and a few other wackos want it to be.

There are people much bigger and more powerful than you that could try to make it his Katrina but they have not because they know there is no cause there.


And, the primary reason I posted all those links to MMS today is because of this,

the GOP stooge that replaced the disgraced coke snorting, employee ****ing, graft and bribe taking, on the payroll for oil company former head Greg Smith,

announced today that he is retiring.

That's right. The man that replaced Greg Smith in 2007, Chris Oynes, who oversees offshore drilling programs at the Minerals Management Service, will retire at the end of the month.


I think there will be some more inquiries and investigations before he closes that door for the last time. And, by all means, some prosecutions IF the MMS staff have not cleaned up their act and IF the department continued business as usual.

I want people to know what this department has been doing and hopefully will ask for a full investigation into all those current and former deals with the oil companies. I have no doubt that some may think they are immune from prosecution, or may actually be immune from prosecution, but it is a damn shame that two years and $5.9 million dollars spent on an investigation did nothing but give a slap on the wrist because the DOJ did not want to prosecute EVEN THOUGH criminal charges could have been filed.

Do you want to know where those containment valves and safety devices went? Want to know why they were not required?

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By the way, I guess the same whiz bang mind you have that told you I am a male nurse must have told you I am in my 60's.

Just as the topic of this thread, I could tell you those two factoids are no more factual than you being some hot cotter from PI.

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By the way, after your latest post in an unrelated thread, I would not piss on you if you were on fire or allow you to lick the sweat off my balls if you were dying of thirst.

You have totally lost all sense of reality and a grasp of what is real and unreal.

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Please continue to run all over this forum and follow me and post something insulting in each thread, little Miss I didn't do it.

My very own Precious has a crush on me.

She wants an old 60 plus year old male nurse in adult incontinent diapers.

But alas, my dear Precious Jolie Wannabee...I can not be all that for you while being what I truly am for all the other womens and breastesses in my life.

Please, release me from you love potion!

[Raider]

Your EDITING is remarkable, too bad you cant edit out Obama's last 17 months in office, or his dismal performance on this oil spill.

And I await for the next phone call or email from my Uncles, and Aunts, cousins and freinds from Diamondhead Mississippi over to New Orleans down to the bayou of Houma Louisiana keeping me posted on what's going on and how everyone's handling it.

When you talk to them, maybe you can ask them for ideas on more tragedy domains you can register.... They must be SO proud of you Gerry,

Retired OLD Fart like you living on other peoples grief. I'll even bet your using your Social Security money right?

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I would not piss on you if you were on fire or allow you to lick the sweat off my balls if you were dying of thirst.

Is that what your Male lover told you? No need to share your kinky Gay sex acts on this Forum.. Try to keep it clean OK?

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Anybody want to see a Low-Life domainer capitalize on a tragic event like this?

http://www.dnforum.com/f283/gulfwate...ad-417536.html

What a F***ing SCUMBAG this guy is.

And he's using Google Adsense to cash-in, When I posted about it in his precious Adsense thread, He went crying to the mods about it.

60 Old Man with a mind of a 6 year old.

[Gerry]

[/COLOR]Anybody want to see a Low-Life domainer capitalize on a tragic event like this?

http://www.dnforum.com/f283/gulfwate...ad-417536.html

What a F***ing SCUMBAG this guy is.

And he's using Google Adsense to cash-in, When I posted about it in his precious Adsense thread, He went crying to the mods about it.

60 Old Man with a mind of a 6 year old.

You're so cute the way you want to play little old man dress up with me.

Is that your fantasy? Getting it on with an little ol' shrinkled diaper wearing sugar tit daddy?

You know what a sugar tit is, don't you?

It's a little piece of cane sugar (or candy) that you give little babies to suck on when yo' mammy ain't no milk for her youngins.

You thirsty, little Preciouis?

Here the real deal, Precious...

This domain is 4 years old.

Even as a parked domain it was getting feeds on the oil spill.

Peeps can see the site I am working on, has news feeds from official sources.

And, peeps can also see what a total, 100% pathetic psycho crazy biatch you are, including the other thread that you posted you garbage in.

I think you should take your pills, get some rest, and try again tomorrow.


Oh, by the way, if the person who reported the thread to the mods wants to identify him (her) self, they would do so on their own accord.

Frankly, it appears I am not the only person who feels that you had crossed the line (and lost your freakin' mind) tonight.

Meanwhile...

[Raider]

This domain is 4 years old.

Yeah, you already told us GulfWaterfront.com was registered 4 years ago, so what? Fact is; you began PROMOTING it AFTER the oil spill, you even developed it with Word Presss AFTER the Spill, And last but not least, you put the domain up for sale AFTER the Oil Spill.....

Face it Doc, your nothing but a Rodent... A pathetic low-life with NO consicious.

It's SCUM like you that gives other domainers a BAD name.... Your a disgrace.

[Gerry]

It's SCUM like you that gives other domainers a BAD name.... Your a disgrace.

That domain has been listed for sale since I purchased it and parked it on sedo.

If you wish to submit an offer, please submit via sedo.

I want them handling your money.

It might have Kooties.



Here's news for you...

it is you that gives you a bad name.


Meanwhile, please go about your national campaign to disgrace Obama and your DNF campaign to disgrace me.

Good luck with both of those insurmountable tasks.

If I can help nudge you over the edge (towards insanity), I am here for you...

[INVIGOR]

Man, you two have an awful lot of time on your hands...

[Raider]

That domain has been listed for sale since I purchased it and parked it on sedo.

And then came the tragic Oil Spill and all that changed... Opportunity came knocking at your door right?

You claim this is not exploitation of a tragedy?

Either your stupid or you dont understand the meaning of the word... Let me school you on it OK?

Definition;

ex·ploit

1.to utilize, esp. for profit; turn to practical account: to exploit a business opportunity.
2.to use selfishly for one's own ends: employers who exploit their workers.
3.to advance or further through exploitation; promote: He exploited his new movie through a series of guest appearances

In this case, You have a domain "GulfWaterfront.com"

You have chosen to develop this Domain using the Tragedy from the Gulf Region, a massive oil spill. (see line 3)

You have promoted the domain using the Oil Spill. (see line 1)

You are PROFITING from the domain using the Oil Spill via adsense. (see line 1)

You have attempted to sell the domain using the oil spill. (see line 1 & 2 )

Now, How in the world do you figure this is not exploitation of a tragedy?

Better question; How can anyone of this Forum with an ounce of moral decency be on your side of this issue? Where is WhiteBark?

What your doing here is DISGUSTING and despicable, It's just as disgusting as what some domainers did when they tried to profit from the V-Tech Shooting and other tragedies.

As you stand at the Gates of Hell, I hope somebody walks by and gives you a good swift kick in the ass.

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Man, you two have an awful lot of time on your hands...

It Doc's case he has a lot of lubricant on his hands.



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Good luck with both of those insurmountable tasks.

No task Doc, it's more like a sport.

[Gerry]

You've lost on attempting to create a national scandal surrounding Obama.

Now you are hoping to create a scandal around me.

Take your issues up with Google to get me banned.

Take a look at the overwhelming majority of ads appearing on that site.

Once more, you fail.

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[H2FC]

Only someone with a twisted and screwed-up mind like Raider would call a fellow domainer a scum and a disgrace for promoting his names when they are related to current news and events.

Why does management continue to allow this Raider person to use this forum to be-little, insult, lie about, and in fact use every method she can to attempt to disgrace any and all who disagrees with her warped opinions?

[Gerry]

Only someone with a twisted and screwed-up mind like Raider would call a fellow domainer a scum and a disgrace for promoting his names when they are related to current news and events.

Why does management continue to allow this Raider person to use this forum to be-little, insult, lie about, and in fact use every method she can to attempt to disgrace any and all who disagrees with her warped opinions?

I would be more concerned and perhaps if in agreement IF I had regged the name as a result of the disaster.

That is not the case.

I also own PetroleumTechnology net, TexasOilCo com and several other energy related names. These are all former sites and well aged.

I am hardly impressed with her effort to discredit and disgrace me as this is her typical warped style.

She has lost her heroic campaign to disgrace Obama so now it is time to shift gears.

She is sick and psychotic.

Running around the forum chasing after me and posting defamatory comments in nearly every thread I am involved in definitely shows an unhealthy obsession.

[INVIGOR]

You two bozos seriously have a bad case of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0YZT...eature=related

[Raider]

Only someone with a twisted and screwed-up mind like Raider would call a fellow domainer a scum and a disgrace for promoting his names when they are related to current news and events.

Only a blind idiot like you would fail to see this is a clear case of exploiting a tragedy for personal gain and profit. And what makes Doc the SCUM of the Earth is that he's doing it on the backs of his own Family's suffering.

And your getting his back? LMAO.... I'll bet you would catch the back of a child molester so long as he agreed with you.

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She has lost her heroic campaign to disgrace Obama so now it is time to shift gears.

Lost? The Oil Spill argument was Won a long time ago. The fact the New York Times and other leftist media outlets trashed Obama for his lack of response is confirmation enough.

Running around the forum chasing after me and posting defamatory comments in nearly every thread I am involved in definitely shows an unhealthy obsession.

Now, who's the one acting paranoid?

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Take a look at the overwhelming majority of ads appearing on that site.

You could be promoting your own line of adult diapers for all I care..... The fact is your pimping the Gulf Oil Spill, Don't you get it?

And I see you changed the page... No worries, I made screen shots of everything yesterday.

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I would be more concerned and perhaps if in agreement IF I had regged the name as a result of the disaster.

Your USING the name FOR the Oil Disaster so WTF difference does it make when you registered it?.... You think your going to weasel your way out of this one?

I always thought you were full of sh*t with all the compassion you tried to display towards tragedies, but I never had any hard evidence. Now I do.

Fellow Domainer or not, your a low-life scum bag.

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Why does management continue to allow this Raider person to use this forum to be-little, insult, lie about, and in fact use every method she can to attempt to disgrace any and all who disagrees with her warped opinions?

You posted many of the SAME opinions I did on this issue and now calling them "warped"

It's amazing how easy you flop on these issues... Did Doc promise you a cut in his adsense earnings?

The first few days after the explosion and fire was spent trying to find and rescue the missing platform workers. All the while this was going on BP was doing all they could to assure everyone the oil was contained and there would be no major spill. They were lying and I do blame the gov. for taking their words for the truth instead of immediately jumping in and doing their own investigating. Past experiences of the whole damn greedy oil industry proves beyond any doubt they will lie and misepresent the truth in every way they can to protect themselves and their huge profits. Obama is to blame for not knowing this and accepting their lies as the truth in the beginning.

Even now while we are heading into one of the worst disasters of the century BP and the government is not doing enough to contain the spill. They have a few...a VERY FEW boats skimming up the oil but not near enough to make a difference. They have thousands of boats running around all over the place out there wasting time and money doing nothing but looking at the oil but what they need are thousands of skimmer boats, not just a few.

They also need oil tankers and/or oil barges all around the spill with hoses and pumps to unload the oil water mixture from those skimmer boats so that they can continue skimming without going back to land to unload. They also need gas and diesel boats/tankers/barges located all around the spill so the skimmer boats can be refueled free of charge and can continue working around the clock.

Why aren't they doing this? They have already proved the skimmer boats work. All they need is more of them. Why isn't our government doing this? They should have every skimmer boat available out there right now and more on the way with open communications directing them where they are needed the most. Cost of this should not matter, BP made BILLIONS $$ of profits last year alone. This spill must be controlled at any cost......before its too late.

[Gerry]

Boo hoo hoo

Its never me

Boo hoo hoo

I don't know what to doo doo

Boo hoo hoo