"Occupy Wall Street" What do they really want?

[Raider]

Everyone has an objective or a message when they protest, So what is it? What do these people really want?

All I see is a group of lazy ass left wingers protesting for the sake of protesting... Losers who amounted to nothing in life, blaming everyone but themselves for their own failures.

Last I checked, over 800 arrested... Ask them what they want out of Wall Street and they don't have a clue. Many want to re-hash the corruption and bailouts of 2008, but aren't they 3 years a little LATE?

Most all of these people are Obama's base, That's why Obama and Nancy Pelosi have expressed their support for the protest, But when you look at all the MILLIONS of dollars Obama received from Wall Street, he looks like a complete HYPOCRITE, as do the protesters.

Obama's top contributors;


http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/co...&cid=N00009638


Wasn't it Obama who appointed Goldman Sachs Executive "Timothy Geithner" to the post of Treasury Secretary? You didn't think that 1 MILLION Dollar donation was FREE did you?


The one who is pissing on everybody is NOT Wall Street, it's this GUY!

[dmyre]

Everyone has an objective or a message when they protest, So what is it? What do these people really want?

All I see is a group of lazy ass left wingers protesting for the sake of protesting... Losers who amounted to nothing in life, blaming everyone but themselves for their own failures....

+1

[Gerry]

Taken straight from a Herman Cain interview and speech this past weekend.

Perhaps the only time the OP gave credit to a black person.

Oops...she did not give credit to a black person.



Moving right along, I have to agree that nothing ever came out of peaceful demonstrations.

Oops...that's not true either.



Seems like the OP is short of memory cells or having difficulty in correlating the peaceful demonstrations and protests of the 60's that brought about social change and even an end to a war. These were also young people, college kids, and the OP's home state is infamous for those Berkley days.

Tea Party demonstrations - good.
Wall Street demonstrations - bad

Tea Party activists - good
Wall Street activists - bad

Tea Party protest - Spit on Black Congressional members on capital steps and call the "niggers" good
Wall Street protests - Camp out and sit in public spaces and march on Wall Street bad

Tea Party members - all employed, hard working, white middle aged republican supporters
Wall Street protestors - well, refer to the OP's assessment

Nothing ever changed with the start of peaceful protests. Nothing.

I swear - some of the best sources for iFunnies.com site plans coming from DNF. Who'd a thunk it?

[Donald Aquilano]

Tea Party protest - Spit on Black Congressional members on capital steps and call the "niggers" good

Tea Party members - all employed, hard working, white middle aged republican supporters

Nobody in Tea Party movement spit on any black members of Congress or called them "niggers"....that's your idiotic imagination at work again.

The Tea Party is made up of Conservatives, Libertarians and the occasional liberal who's brain cells have kicked in. They even have BLACK members of the Tea Party.

[Gerry]

Perhaps there is just one of these one million nine hundred forty thousand sources that you could use as a reliable source complete with video footage.

http://www.google.com/search?q=tea+p...ient=firefox-a

There is no reason to post a source but rather have you work to find one that you would agree with.

Don't like huffington post, washington post, gawker, examiner, the hill and other liberal rags?

How about

foxnews -
And Brietbart justifying the behavior (of course, this was AFTER he claimed it never happened but had to change his storyline once footage surfaced) claiming that the black caucus deserved it for walking thru a tea party protestors holding signs.


Of great humor and a good for laughs site that I came across was claiming the spitting never happened (even though it is on video and Capital Police escort witnessed it) and that site was claiming if it was true, why was the cloths the congressman was wearing never DNA tested for proof?

What? Is this the mind set of people?

He was spit on.

Oh, yeah? Got proof?

Here's the video.

Oh yeah? Where's the DNA evidence?

I swear...some of you people must have flunked recess in elementary school.

[biggedon]

i think they got what they wanted, and that was to be noticed



and maybe that is the intent of the protest



gotta make noise, cause only the squeeky wheels get greased


as individuals they are easy to dismiss, but as a group...hard to ignore


perhaps this is the creation of a new political movement

the "OccuParty"

[dmyre]

Occupy Wall Street logo: Communist fist
No thanks... Have no interest in supporting a communist organization.

Protesters often carry Che Guevara flags...
Again, no thanks...

[Bill F.]

Perhaps there is just one of these one million nine hundred forty thousand sources that you could use as a reliable source complete with video footage.

http://www.google.com/search?q=tea+p...ient=firefox-a

I call BS here, too. You simply posted a Google page. How about a link to any actual proof? There were no videos with even one person calling out a racial slur. So far as spitting, there was one highly debatable video showing a protestor shouting loudly through cupped hands and a politician reacting. There is no actual evidence of spit on the video. Even if spit did come out, it may well have been because he was shouting loudly and some spit came out with his words. That happens, though there's no evidence of even that happening on this video.

We already know that group of lawmakers intentionally walked through the middle of a crowd hostile to the bill they were passing rather than use the usual route between buildings. One can only speculate as to why. However, considering the so far unproven allegations they have made, one possibility is that they really hoped to incite racially charged language or behavior so they could then say the Tea Party are all racists. When they didn't get what they want, they decided to elaborate on the details themselves, and the excuse for media we have was of course was only too happy to play along with the slander.

Forget the politics , all one needs to do is to look at the behavior of the crowds. As the Wall Street group is creating mountains of waste (one publicly crapped on a police car, like a dog), the Tea Party is generally known for cleaning up after themselves. Other anti-capitalism protests have often included violence, broken windows, and theft - none of which are generally associated with the Tea Party. You tell me which group you would rather have in charge of the government. If you think real hard, maybe you can tell me the last political ideology that went from breaking windows to power. Something called "Kristallnacht."

[Gerry]

I call BS here, too. You simply posted a Google page. How about a link to any actual proof? There were no videos with even one person calling out a racial slur. So far as spitting, there was one highly debatable video showing a protestor shouting loudly through cupped hands and a politician reacting. There is no actual evidence of spit on the video. Even if spit did come out, it may well have been because he was shouting loudly and some spit came out with his words. That happens, though there's no evidence of even that happening on this video.

No longer doing the work of others. No matter what is posted, which site is referenced, others call it fake.

It is there. Many times over.

[Bill F.]

Let me help you out here. This is a link where the congressman denied that he claimed he was spat on (despite a press release from his office implying he was). In addition he was being escorted by a police officer when the trumped up spitting incident occurred, yet no arrests were made.

In other words, there is no evidence or firsthand testimony that the spitting incident ever occurred, despite countless witnesses at the scene. The whole thing was made up, then debunked, and yet still endlessly repeated by the left. As Lenin was credited as saying, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." The racism charge has been a convenient tool to silence opposition to the power elite, but it's fading from overuse and abuse.

[Gerry]

Let me help you out here. This is a link where the congressman denied that he claimed he was spat on (despite a press release from his office implying he was). In addition he was being escorted by a police officer when the trumped up spitting incident occurred, yet no arrests were made.

Precisely as I pointed out. I post a link to the incident, someone posts a link that it was made up.

---------- Post added at 11:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 PM ----------

You are posting a supposed denial when the office of that same senator released this statement regarding the event:

Here are a few supposed interviews and statements by those same mentioned people involved.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...wis-the-n-word
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_507116.html

Of course, the end game is he says yes, Hannity and Beck says no.

[Bill F.]

You are posting a supposed denial when the office of that same senator released this statement regarding the event:

Thank you for pointing that out. Highly contradictory. If you are implying that we should discount this man's testimonials I'm with you there. I'm not sure how that supports your statement, though.

Your links point to more innuendo and opinion. Nothing solid. And I really have no idea what Hannity and Beck have to do with this, can you elaborate?

[Mike Cruz]

Although It is clear why you made this post and not at all surprised you are once again showingnyour ignorance to anything you don't believe in. Here is an excerpt from their site, so you know what it is they are fighting for. Read slowly and carefully, maybe do that 7-8 times before responding, then try to piece them together with Obama and Goldman Sachs.

"Occupy Wall Street has recently come into the media spotlight, not because of our political message, but because certain high-ranking members of the NYPD punched, threw, and stepped on peaceful marchers. Arrestees were handcuffed so tight their hands turned blue. Many of these people have yet to regain feeling in their extremities. A senior police officer infamously forced women into pens and maced them at point-blank range. While we vehemently condemn these abuses of power, we urge all who read this to remain focused on our intended message. Abuse of power is abuse of power. Whether perpetrated by Wall Street bankers or members of the NYPD, it is the duty of all citizens to oppose injustice. We condemn the actions of unprofessional police who used excessive force in subduing a peaceful march. But we are foremost here to oppose the growing power of the ruling class.

Let us also be clear that, when approached as individuals, members of the NYPD have expressed solidarity with our cause. It has been inspiring to receive this support. Over these thirteen days, we have learned that no one supports corporations’ disproportionate influence in the political sphere. We have learned that no one is in favor of evicting struggling families to the street while banks continue to profit. No one, that is, except the corporations and banks. We urge members of the NYPD to remain in solidarity with our cause. These men and women could lose their pensions and benefits during the next round of budget cuts. We ask that members of the NYPD treat all peaceful human beings with respect and care. This will be a great step towards reclaiming power for the working class. Those who profit off the suffering of others will held accountable. We are the 99%, and we are too big to fail."

Good luck.

[Raider]

It appears the only intelligence displayed in this thread thus far has been from BD77, dmyre, Biggedon and DomainAce.. I appreciate your contribution.

Aside from the SEIU and ACORN who are behind the protests, the one organization who started "OccupyWallStreet' is a Canadian based organization by the name of "AdBusters" who describes itself as "a global network of artists, activists, writers, pranksters, students.. In other words, Lazy ass hippies who never amounted to anything in life.

They own the dot org domain, and you'll notice the name was registered on June 11th, which is good indication this whole thing was planned and it was organized.


Domain Name:OCCUPYWALLSTREET.ORG
Created On:09-Jun-2011 18:25:48 UTC
Last Updated On:09-Aug-2011 03:50:12 UTC
Expiration Date:09-Jun-2012 18:25:48 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Registrant Name:Kalle Lasn
Registrant Street1:1243 7th West
Registrant City:Vancouver
Registrant State/Province:British Columbia
Registrant Postal Code:V6H 1B7
Registrant Country:CA
Registrant Phone:+1.6047369401


The outright Hypocricy from these protesters has clearly been exposed, now let's expose the Anti Semitism from Ad Busters;

http://www.aolnews.com/2010/11/04/ad...tagsidebar/pst
http://www.honestreporting.ca/news_a...isemitism.aspx

The most disgusting part about this is, they have protesters pushing the same Anti Semitic messages;



"Go back to Israel?.... Looks like this guy took a line from left wing crackpot Helen Thomas.


And here's another one spewing his hatred for Jews;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWwK5...ayer_embedded#!


And NOT surprising to see some of the same dumb asses we have on DNF, holding up poster signs of anti-capitalist and communist; Che Guevara, who was also a Anti-Semite!

Not to mention mass murderer.

there is no evidence or firsthand testimony that the spitting incident ever occurred, despite countless witnesses at the scene. The whole thing was made up, then debunked, and yet still endlessly repeated by the left. As Lenin was credited as saying, "A lie told often enough becomes the truth." The racism charge has been a convenient tool to silence opposition to the power elite, but it's fading from overuse and abuse.

Your correct, of course theirs no evidence, but that won't stop DocCom from repeating the LIE, and trying to sell it to gullible idiots like Zurc who would believe anything the Left spoon feeds him.

Did you know that Andrew Breitbart is offering a $100,000 reward if the story can be proven?, So the question is; why hasn't Doc cashed in yet? hmm?



Protester crapping on a US Flag;



Nice.

This is what Obama is throwing his support behind.

[H2FC]

Everyone has an objective or a message when they protest, So what is it? What do these people really want?

What these protesters really want is to save our free enterprise capitilistic system from the greedy and corrupt kingpins who are now destroying and will continue to destroy the very foundations of this country with their uncontrollable greed. The Republican Party leaders have sold out to this 1% of the population simple because the greedy support them and with control of over 40% of the nations wealth they have a lot of buying power. That's the truth in a nut shell.

[Raider]

What these protesters really want is to save our free enterprise capitilistic system

REALLY? That's certainly NOT what the signs suggest;




Looks more like marching for communism to me.


And being the environmentalist that you are, I'm quite surprised with your silence in regard to the protesters turning NYC into a garbage dump, not to mention crapping and pissing anywhere they want to.





Tea Party BAD, Occupy Wall Street GOOD.

Time you take off the blinders my friend.

[Mike Cruz]

Tea Party



Occupy Wall Street



Tea Party



Occupy Wall Street



Tea Party



Occupy Wall Street



Get it? don't worry, we don't expect you to.

[H2FC]

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism—ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power"... Franklin D. Roosevelt in a message to Congress on April 29, 1938, warned that the growth of private power could lead to fascism.

This is what the Tea Party controlled Republicans have committed themselves to if for no other reason but to remove a black man from our highest Office... They are determined and if it destroys our country, so be it....Plain and simple.

[Bill F.]

"The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism—ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power"... Franklin D. Roosevelt in a message to Congress on April 29, 1938, warned that the growth of private power could lead to fascism.

You quote demagoguery from a politician who did everything he could to reduce democracy and to gain power for himself. It's comforting that Obama is following this model, because it didn't work for Roosevelt in 1938. Conservatives won both houses. That was despite his WPA administrators forcing workers on the plan to either become Democrats or lose their jobs.

Now, who was the fascist? And how exactly does the transfer of private power to government power enhance freedom? Many of these protestors seem very confused on this point, but then they often let others do the heavy thinking for them.

Repeat after me..."The tea party will destroy the country because they can't stand the thought of a black man as president." (Despite the popularity of Herman Cain, and despite the fact that Obama is more white Marxist than black. Just keep repeating the mantra.)
Repeat again...."You can do anything. You can have sex with animals." (If you think I made this up, watch the video I linked to below. It seems he's just testing his subjects to make sure they'll mindlessly repeat any crap he says. They didn't let him down.)

Hard to believe that people are so shallow that they will swallow all this stuff, but here's more proof...
http://www.breitbart.tv/occupy-wall-...-with-animals/

If you're concerned about fascism, you should ask yourself what it is first. In many ways, the US is already more fascist than China, and it's not because of bug business. And at least the Chinese know they can't trust the government.

[lordbyroniv]

Kids. Dont get confused and allow the MSM and the elites to divide. The tea party and the OWS movement have more in common then differences.

Both recognize the status quo of "crony capitalism" is untenable.

Both wants the bankers and the corrupt politicans jailed.

The major difference is that the Tea Party people want no more bailouts for anyone. Whereas, OWS wants bailouts for everyone.

But the real target should be --->>>>>>>>>>> THE FEDERAL RESERVE !!!!

You take away the Federal Reserve's power to print Federal Reserve notes out of thin air and then allow them to loan the American people this fake money at interest and you will solve the real problem.

All this other stuff is just a wedge issue to divide the sheeple.