Are our militaries really where our governments say they are?

[draggar]

I think this would be an interesting topic.

Do you really think a portion of our military are where our governments claim they are? No, I don't mean some special ops team that the US government claims is on a base in Germany is actually conducting recon deep within Iran, I mean something bigger.

Fact: One side of the moon faces the Earth, 100% of the time. Who knows that is on the other side?

Think about it - the serface area of the moon is roughly 37,930,000 square miles. Half of that is 16,965,000 square miles.

Even if we take out roughly 1% that still leaves one HUGE area for most governments who could reach the moon (the US, Russia, China, Japan, etc.) to set up a very large base.

I think it is very plausible that our governments could have set up bases on the moon - who knows what really happens when we send up rockets into space and if the military launches their own in an isolated area (uncharted island in the Pacific, Area 51 etc..). Do you really think we would have gone to the moon 40 years ago just to ignore it for almost half a century?

I think further out might be a stretch - a base on Mars etc.. is a little beyond us now. Mercury - while we could survive on there (stay in the twilight regions - it can get pretty cold, even by our standard, on those 83+ day nights) is also out of the question at this time.

A second space station (while we're all staring at the ISS) could also be a possibility.

Also - what about under the ocean? No, I don't mean submarines, I mean things like Sealab, large facilities on the ocean floor (heh, The Abyss anyone?).

Anyone else have thoughts on this?

[HomerJ]

sorry, this might be a little off topic from where you're going with this, but seeing as you mentioned the government and the military, i wanted to mention that i was flicking through the boob tube just the other night, and noticed there's a show on national geographic channel called CIA Secret Experiments. When i clicked on the 'info' button to bring up the shows description, to my amazement it was something along the lines of "explores how the CIA used Americans as human guinea pigs during the cold war" (not exact description but very close)

from the site:

http://channel.nationalgeographic.co...-3313/Overview

NGC's CIA Secret Experiments examines the launch of a highly classified, top secret research program during the Cold War that contaminated entire American cities with bacteria, exposing millions to germ warfare.

here's another episode synopsis from tivo.com:

During the Cold War the CIA exposed unknowing individuals to biological agents, hallucinogenic drugs and psychological techniques aimed at mastering mind control.

so here we have the mass media openly revealing to the American people that its own government carries out secret experiments on them (of course, under the guise that this is something that once happened in the past)

one might want to take a moment to reflect on that next Saturday, the 4th of July, a day when Americans get together to celebrate their basic freedoms (e.g. the freedom to be experimented on like guinea pigs by a bunch of psychopaths)

for further research see Revelation of the Method

[draggar]

The government declassified years ago experiments that were done in the 40's, 50's, 60's and "through the 70's" (chances are that they continued though the 80's and maybe even the 90's).

They were testing the effects of radiation (as in nuclear weapon radiation) on schools in the USA though milk that had been exposed though different levels of radiation (radioactive milk).

I don't think it is a coincidence that my school system has one of the highest thyroid cancer rates in the US. They blamed it on the fact that the high school and junior high (next to each other) were built on landfills. They claim that it was only conducted on "retarded" (mentally disabled) children but I know that in my schools - they pulled their milk out of the same coolers that the rest of us did. Even if they could get them separate milks to these children, the radiation could easily affect other containers of milk next to them, even at low levels.

Sure, there is a nuclear power plant nearby (about 15 miles away) but it didn't go online until 1990.

I have very little doubt that these experiments continued though the 80s and at the schools that I attended.

As for 'where I'm going with this' - I am just curios to see what other people may think.

[HomerJ]

this might get you thinking: lunar anamolies aka strange moon facts

[Adatise]

Alien colonies are said to inhabit the back side of the moon. There is plenty of proof from whistle blowers who had nothing to gain from talking. U.S. astronauts, NASA employees, Soviet scientists, NSA confirm the extraterrestrial presence on the moon.

There is witnessed evidence, through the testimony of UASF SGT Karl Wolfe and through the statements of U.S. astronauts, NASA employees, former Soviet scientists that the U.S., and its agencies NASA and the NSA has had scientific evidence that the moon has extraterrestrial civilizations and present settlements on it for more than 40 years, since the 1960s.

Remember when the USA shot a nuke at the moon (just to be cool and show off that we could do it) and a UFO took it out before it hit the moon! We have video proof of it (see youtube)! The USA is going to try to bomb the moon again this October (supposedly to make a 5 mile hole for water research). How ****ing foolish can we be?

I will bet anyone that it never happens, just like the nuke was taken out so will this bomb via alien space craft guarding the moon! If it does happen, America just gave cause for an act of war against alien races living on the moon. The USA knows full well alien races live there! Ethical aliens will take that satellite carrying that bomb out again very easily! Mars is heavily populated with 670,000 people that look just like us living underground also. See below videos for proof. Very easy to prove if you research it.

It pisses me off that America (I am American) is trying to bomb the moon and hurt innocent little aliens!

War against aliens. Hmmm. That might pull us out of our recession but I assure you that the aliens will kick our ass royally!

When we blew a nuke off in space (as we did) it was absolutely ludicrous and the American Government was told my aliens, no more of that shit!

The truth about truths is that most humans prefer not to study esoteric knowledge and learn the truth. They rely on the mainstream media for their news which is virtually all bullshit! I want to learn everything before 2012. Here is a good video I am watching again now.

Moon Secrets Revealed : John Lear & Richard Hoagland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ASTvjNBaAw

NASA moon bombing violates space law & may cause conflict with lunar ET/UFO civilizations
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage821553/pg1

NASA moon bombing violates space law & may cause conflict with lunar ET/UFO civilizations
June 19, 4:14 PM
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.p...600.msg4061258


I will try to find that video of a UFO shooting down that rocket with a nuclear bomb on it, some time back, that we shot at the moon.

Edited: I just wrote to my congressmen and senators to stop the foolish moon bombing on Oct 9th. How crazy can America be? There is more behind it than water research and you can bet your bottom dollar on that! This is an act of war. These aliens have technology 10's of thousands of years ahead of us! Our ass is grass if they do bomb the moon!!!

[thevirtual]

I don't believe any country has the capability to place troops on the moon.

I do believe there may be life on the moon and even civilizations. It is likely that our Gov'ts would keep these facts from us and possibly that they do this under the orders of ET authorities.