Population Control - Mother Nature's Way

[ComScout.com]

I have had this theory for many years, and often think about it when there is a major disaster somewhere in the world such as the recent earthquake and tidal waves.

I am not really a religious person, but I believe in some things.

The current earth's population is somewhere in the Billions, and I honestly believe that whenever there is a major disaster which involves many tens of thousands of people killed, that maybe it is "Mother Natures" way of keeping our earths population under control.

I often think of all the hundreds of millions of people killed in WW1 and WW2 and other big wars, Disease's such as AIDS etc, Major Disasters, and so forth ... if those people did not die, then how big would the earths population be now? 10's of Billions of people maybe?

The Earth is already over populated, and without these unfortunate events, it would get worse.

The last thing I wish to cause is distress to people who may have relatives, family, friends lost in these disaster areas, but I just thought since most of us live in a democratic society, it would be interesting to see other members points of view!

I also have a stong belief that all recent civilisations only last a couple of thousand years, such as Inca's, Romans, Egyptians, Indians etc and that maybe our civilisation is next in line for something, maybe not now, but eventually it will happen!

Our planet loses Millions of people a year to War, Disease, Disasters and so forth, in my view this is Mother Natures Simple process of keeping our population under control... what do you think of my point of view?

Seeing as those this is in the Controversial Forum, I thought I'd put this up.

[Adatise]

The powers at be have been planning a world reduction of two thirds of the population for years but the aliens watching over us have told us they will not let it happen.

~Namaste~

[Mike Cruz]

Com, did you look up any of these statistics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvVYYpkyXY

[south]

Com, did you look up any of these statistics?

I have to agree. With over 6 billion acres of land in North America alone, there is plenty of space for everyone. Just because many choose to live in densely populated areas does not mean there is a lack of land available to live on.

[ComScout.com]

Com, did you look up any of these statistics?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvVYYpkyXY

Good song, but I am not saying god is responsible (if there is one) but I am saying these disasters, etc is a way of keeping the earths population stable.

Billions of people have died in the last 100 years due to war, disease, quakes etc, I am saying if this did not happen, the worlds population would be at breaking point, due to the extra people... more births etc.

[Mike Cruz]

Good song, but I am not saying god is responsible (if there is one) but I am saying these disasters, etc is a way of keeping the earths population stable.

Billions of people have died in the last 100 years due to war, disease, quakes etc, I am saying if this did not happen, the worlds population would be at breaking point, due to the extra people... more births etc.

Refer to South's post...

[ComScout.com]

I have to agree. With over 6 billion acres of land in North America alone, there is plenty of space for everyone. Just because many choose to live in densely populated areas does not mean there is a lack of land available to live on.

Plenty of land maybe in the USA, also plenty of land here in Oz.

But the world is already facing food shortages due to the huge global population.

[Mike Cruz]

1 person per acre in north america alone is enough space for everyone in the world to build a house, a small farm, etc.

[ComScout.com]

1 person per acre in north america alone is enough space for everyone in the world to build a house, a small farm, etc.

Thats crazy ... imagine the crime and all the other crap you'd have to put up with!

I am happy living in a small rural western australian town of 250 people

I get stressed when I go to the city 250kms away Perth population 1.8 million

[Mike Cruz]

Thats crazy ... imagine the crime and all the other crap you'd have to put up with!

I am happy living in a small rural western australian town of 250 people

I get stressed when I go to the city 250kms away Perth population 1.8 million

I am not saying this would be lovely.. but think of all the other available land in the world besides North America...

Have you ever seen the towns in South America? Most parts of Asia? They are right ontop of eachother and there is so much open land, but yeah there is reasoning to this.

[biggedon]

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[HomerJ]

nature tends toward balance and equilibrium. for example, in predator-prey relationships, as the population of prey rises, this creates a surplus of food for the predator, thus their rate of survival and procreating starts to increase. this then ultimately leads to a gradual reduction in the population of prey since more predators are around to hunt them. Then the ball starts rolling in the other direction, when the numbers of prey are down, this means food is more scarce for the number of predators, so as they start to thin out, the population of prey is able to grow again, ... this is a rather simple example

with humans, we really dont have any natural predators at this stage of our evolution. Further, it is/was the agricultural revolution and our modern practice of large scale farming that is largely responsible for the population boom of the last 10,000 years. This point is made really well by Daniel Quinn in his books Ishmael and The Story of B.

his main argument is really quite radical but damn interesting. famine is not due to a lack of food, but the opposite, it is a result of a surplus of food which causes the population to boom. it sounds illogical but think of this. at one time in our history there were only 3 billion people on the planet, yet there has always been starvation and famine even then. However, now that we have a population of 6.5+ billion, we are easily feeding at least 3 billion of them. So it is clear that the world has the capacity to sustain enough food for the 3 billion, so why were people starving at all back then? if you read some of his writing it is a much better explanation than I could possibly give here.

I do think we have enough resources to support the current population. I think that however that there is a rise in natural disasters, plagues and diseases, and so on, because we as a whole have been living grossly out of balance with mother nature.

It has always been mans conceit that we can improve on nature. I am not religious in the organized sense, but I sometimes think of it in terms of the story of genesis in the bible. it says we are created in the image of god, or in god's likeness. I take this to refer to mankinds somehow innate ability and capacity for *creation*. think of all that has been created by humankind. However this apparently was also 'the fall', or our fall from grace, because historically we have always tried, through our god-given powers of creation, to subjugate nature, to bend nature to our will, and to create a more perfect world or utopia. What could possibly be utopia if not nature itself, or, the garden of eden if you will. This is why people love to 'escape' or 'get back to' nature. it is pristine. it is a harbor from the ungodly mess we've created in our choked out, polluted cities of concrete jungle.

Unfortunately, or rather, fortunately, nature has a spirit of her own that can not and will not be broken, and in response to our way of life, which is penning up her rivers with damns, stripping her mountains bald with ski resorts, orbiting her with thousands of metal space junk, and so on. I'm not saying we cant or shouldnt have technology or any type of comforts, or that we should return to being hunter-gatherers. I think there is no going back, but we need to find a new way forward, clearly.

also, i think we all have heard that forest fires are an import part of ecology, not just something destructive to be avoided at all costs. Parks will often have controlled fires to burn out the deadness and this makes room for the new life to take root. I think we are in that phase so to speak, that mother nature is doing her part to clean out all of the toxicity and pollution we've heaped on the land, and I think for the most part we should just get out of the way, and not leave it up to the men in white labcoats to interfere any more than we already have. There was a recent announcement by some scientist that they are merely months away from creating the first artifical life. we are altering the world permanently and irrevocably. god only knows what will happen. we're all in for a hell of a ride if you ask me.

[south]

Thats crazy ... imagine the crime and all the other crap you'd have to put up with!

I am happy living in a small rural western australian town of 250 people

I get stressed when I go to the city 250kms away Perth population 1.8 million

Looks like a cool place to live. I grew up in a small town in Maine

Dumbleyung. Sounds like a good name for a beer!

[Anthony Ng]

I have had this theory for many years ... that maybe it is "Mother Natures" way of keeping our earths population under control.

The truth is, the "Mother Nature" doesn't really care about OUR population. When he ... or she roars, human lives are just collatoral damage.

[Mike Cruz]

The truth is, the "Mother Nature" doesn't really care about OUR population. When he ... or she roars, human lives are just collatoral damage.

wErd

[elius]

saying that disasters occur because we are at the most the earth can sustain is illogical. Disasters occured when "we" lived in caves and only a few million people roamed the earth.

Also, the earth / nature is goal-less. It doesn't go about placing an earthquake here and a tsunami there. These are processes that are part of the system and they simple occur. We know it and find ways to dodge the bullet and so we grow in number.

Now that so many people live close to each other diseases have a bigger chance of spreading just as social unrest and war. These somewhat diminish our numbers but unless the atomic war breaks out I don't see why huminaty won't grow to for instance 10 billion in a couple of decades.

Basically what I'm saying is that both logic and facts defeat the point that nature is out to get us so that our numbers will decrease.

[Adatise]

I've read that every person in the world could easily fit in the state of Texas.


~Namaste~

[ilovedomains]

I've read that every person in the world could easily fit in the state of Texas.

1. Finding a place to stand isnt the problem. Its the acres of usable land per person required to supply food and other resources thats a problem.

2. Its getting worse real fast because population growth is exponetial. It took 1500 years to add a billion people to the population in the middle ages. It will only take about 15 years to add the next billion. (Thats not a typo. Go to the population clock sites and see how fast were running out of room)

[Adatise]

1. Finding a place to stand isnt the problem. Its the acres of usable land per person required to supply food and other resources that's a problem.

2. Its getting worse real fast because population growth is exponential. It took 1500 years to add a billion people to the population in the middle ages. It will only take about 15 years to add the next billion. (That's not a typo. Go to the population clock sites and see how fast were running out of room)

A little more than standing room good Sir. Room for a house each. Texas has an area of 267,339 square miles, a square mile has 27,878,400 square feet, giving the total area of Texas as 7,452,983,577,600 square feet. Dividing that by 1,500 yields 4,968,655,718 people who could fit into Texas. At 1,000 square feet per person, it works out to 7.5 billion people. Since we don’t know how many people there are, the most accurate answer probably falls in between 1,500 and 1,000 square feet of Texas per person. Math estimate, not lying by any stretch of the imagination.

There is not going to be 15 more years good Sir. The world ends as we know it in 2012 whether you want believe it or not. There is just to much proof. We are going to the 5th dimension and there's tons of proof on that. We can see and measure the energy wave coming out of the center of the galaxy which is changing all planets (provable) in our solar system. It is not doom and gloom as some say (people that don't study it deeply). It is a glorious event and part of evolution. All galaxies have done or will do this in time. Life will be 100 time better in the 5th dimension.


~Namaste~

The truth is, the "Mother Nature" doesn't really care about OUR population. When he ... or she roars, human lives are just collateral damage.

You are right about mother nature. But Mother Earth cares. She is female and she's a living sentient being and she cares about all life on her planet. Don't take my word for it. Do a Google search and prove it.


Love and light
~Namaste~

[ilovedomains]

A little more than standing room good Sir. Room for a house each. Texas has an area of 267,339 square miles, a square mile has 27,878,400 square feet, giving the total area of Texas as 7,452,983,577,600 square feet. Dividing that by 1,500 yields 4,968,655,718 people who could fit into Texas. At 1,000 square feet per person, it works out to 7.5 billion people.

Going to have any forests? roads? stores? sewers? mountians? hospitals? farms? parks? parking spaces? rivers? lakes?

10 billion people could all have a ranch in Antarctica, but I doubt they would live very long.