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    Angry Sedo "Price Fixing"???

    I'm a pretty observant fellow.

    Having done cardiovascular research, its important to collect and analyze data and look for patterns and trends.

    Well, here's a trend for ya!

    All too often, I have noticed something very specific about the payout; it has happened on too many occasions to be "coincidental".

    Have you ever looked at your sedo account in the early part or the middle part of the day and see you top 5 or so domains paying out the exact same thing on a PPC basis?

    I have seen oddities such as all 5 paying something like $0.64.

    You look at your stats and it will be a PPC trend like:

    $0.64
    $0.64
    $0.64
    $0.64
    $0.64

    Or it could be any number like $0.48, or $0.54.

    It has happened so many times in my account that I can not accept it as being coincidental.

    The domains and the keywords are no where close to being the same. The keywords for the top 5 may appear like this:

    Tuition,financial aid
    Tablet computer
    Electric vehicle
    Hardcore Videos
    Rental Textbooks

    And here's an even more suspicious twist: look at the next tier payout and it is a multiple of the higest. In other words, if the top 5 payouts are $0.64, then the next three may be $0.32. And the next 2 or 3 after that will be $0.16.

    Like I said, it has happened too many times, too many similar trends and patterns to be simply coincidental.

    Parking sucks. But when it appears that a parking company is capping the amount of payout or price fixing what is paid per click, then this really burns my ass up. It is our traffic and out names that are generating a cash flow for sedo.

    How about Sedo generating a cash flow for their clients? A fair and equitable payout on a PPC basis without capping the payout?

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    so why use them? move on, sometimes it's that simple in life and you just needa little push, move on.
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    Considering a 75 percent loss of PPC revenue over the past 4 years, I do not even look at parking stats any more.

    The theft is at all levels and seems entrenched, so it seems time to move on.

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    I think "parking sucks" summarizes the discussion (and overall decision) well..
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    Yes. I think the best thing to do is not use a parking service and set up a simple for sale page with an affiliate banner on each domain name - your $$ will come from more sales. Just put a range accepting offers from $xxx or $xxx or fixed price
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onward View Post
    Yes. I think the best thing to do is not use a parking service and set up a simple for sale page with an affiliate banner on each domain name - your $$ will come from more sales.
    Got an example? PM me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DomainSearch View Post
    so why use them? move on, sometimes it's that simple in life and you just needa little push, move on.
    I plan to. But just wanted to point out the "not so obvious" patterns to others who may use them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Onward View Post
    Yes. I think the best thing to do is not use a parking service and set up a simple for sale page with an affiliate banner on each domain name - your $$ will come from more sales. Just put a range accepting offers from $xxx or $xxx or fixed price
    I agree, even the most basic mini-site with minimal content surrounded by CPA or CPC ads from your fave ad provider(s) will almost always outperform most parking - this has been our experience.

    Of course, this doesn't work if you have thousands of domains, especially if you host them on the same IP range and have similar templates... content farm penalties (which is what kills parking services in the SERPs to start with) not to mention visitor blindness...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onward View Post
    Yes. I think the best thing to do is not use a parking service and set up a simple for sale page with an affiliate banner on each domain name - your $$ will come from more sales. Just put a range accepting offers from $xxx or $xxx or fixed price
    PM me also an example!! thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Having done cardiovascular research, its important to collect and analyze data and look for patterns and trends.
    Doc, any predictions as to the date of the final attack ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katherine View Post
    Doc, any predictions as to the date of the final attack ?
    Most major cardiovascular events occur in the aged population between the hours of 5am and 7am, or...upon awakening.

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    I had a hard time waking up today
    Now I'm going to check my stats. Let's see how far I can go.
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    I observed other patterns with parking.
    Say, you park a new name, one killer keyword.
    U get $3 for the first click, $1 for the second, 10c afterward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dn-101 View Post
    I observed other patterns with parking.
    Say, you park a new name, one killer keyword.
    U get $3 for the first click, $1 for the second, 10c afterward.
    Here's an example of combining both patterns:



    The top name was also $0.53 before its second click. Then it became $0.51

    But all the top three were each paying $0.53 each, totally unrelated names, keywords, sectors, etc.

    I just randomly found that picture taken early one morning but I have seen it were the top 5 were all the same figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onward View Post
    Yes. I think the best thing to do is not use a parking service and set up a simple for sale page with an affiliate banner on each domain name - your $$ will come from more sales. Just put a range accepting offers from $xxx or $xxx or fixed price
    Exactly... I did this before I began parking, I even had my own inquire form. When I did this, it's seemed I had more inquiries and more sales compared to now with a parked page using a inquire link. Since PPC has dwindled to nickels and dimes, which is only going to get worse, I plan on doing this again since it's no longer worth it to park.... I'm even considering selling advertising space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Here's an example of combining both patterns:

    I thought it was against sedo policy to use keywords that infringe on a known Trademark... In this case, Kmart.

    For someone who throws out suggestions he's in the medical field, "Having done cardiovascular research" Why would a Medical professional lower them self to robbing Kmart of traffic for 53 cents a day?.. I'm just curious.


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    I have set up sales page for my 4l domains. Make offer link is an affiliate link for sedo.
    Ex: oxaf(.)com

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    Footer link is an affiliate link to themeforest.net. Made few dollars already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Having done cardiovascular research,
    What do you know? we have something in common.. I too have done cardiovascular research.

    It's not that hard to read.


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    Um, dear Mother Eva...I actually conducted research. I was a research assistant/fellow responsible for gathering data on cardiovascular events of more than 4500 participants enrolled in that study here in NC. Not only was I responsible for gathering data, I had to track events, score them, read the medical charts of all events, and contact and interview each participant either in person or on the phone. I then had to compile that data, score the event (enter numbers equivalent to the wording), have the study coordinator sign off on the documents, then send them to our data programmer to enter.

    Essentially, it was a blind study where everything had a numerical scoring system that defined the events and the pre/during/post outcomes of the events.

    The National database and National coordinator for this study was the University of Washington. Participating institutions were Wake Forest University Bowman Gray School of Medicine, Pitt, and UC Davies. All data entered from the Northeast, Southeast, Northwest, Southwest was sent to databases at UW which extrapolated findings regarding at which times were events most likely to happen, to which age groups, what medicines may have contributed or countered the event, previous history or family history of paticipants, and so on. Some of the major positive outcomes have been huge, most notably the treatment and care of Stroke patients, developing time lines or that "magic hour" in getting patients to an appropriate facility capable to treatments, and the certification of national stroke centers. New medications, protocols, and national standards are also some of the positive results.

    Thanks for reading the research results others have conducted.

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    I don' think anyone here other than you really gives a ***t.

    Now, what's up with Kmart?
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    Doc just put the stupid cow on ignore and we won't all have to endure the endless back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobM View Post
    Doc just put the stupid cow on ignore and we won't all have to endure the endless back and forth.
    Stupid cow? ... This coming from a bigot.

    Is this what you say to all foreigners?


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