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**H2FC** · 07-10-2008, 03:30 PM

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Ah but H2FC says Bush was Prez then

Raider, you seem to be a little confused.....this is what I said

Originally Posted by H2FC

Raider, I think you have your dates mixed it....it was George W. Bush who was sitting in the oval office watching cartoons while Al Qaeda was preparing their attack on the USA that resulted in the deaths of THOUSANDS of American civilians.

**Raider** · 07-11-2008, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by H2FC

Raider, you seem to be a little confused.....this is what I said.

Not at all, You spent 2 years on this forum whining like a b*tch about how Bush's inaction on Global Warming is going to lead us to this great climate catastrophe if we don't do something about it now....

What about Clinton's inaction of failing to combat terrorism for 8 years which led to 911?, It took Al Qaeda years of planning the attack, Planning that took place inside our own country under Bill "DO NOTHING" Clinton and your hero Al "Greedy" Gore.

The difference between the above two is; Thousands of innocent civilians died because of Clinton, while under Bush, Al Gore's disaster predictions to this day have FAILED to materialize.

Like the water level in Florida, 10 years ago Al Gore said the Sea level in Florida will rise 24 ft because of the melting ice caps in Antarctica or Greenland, Well, if the ice caps are melting, why is the water level in Florida at a all time LOW?

HELLO!!!

**fab** · 07-11-2008, 03:01 AM

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Not at all, You spent 2 years on this forum whining like a b*tch about how Bush's inaction on Global Warming is going to lead us to this great climate catastrophe if we don't do something about it now....

What about Clinton's inaction of failing to combat terrorism for 8 years which led to 911?, It took Al Qaeda years of planning the attack, Planning that took place inside our own country under Bill "DO NOTHING" Clinton and your hero Al "Greedy" Gore.

The difference between the above two is; Thousands of innocent civilians died because of Clinton, while under Bush, Al Gore's disaster predictions to this day have FAILED to materialize.

Like the water level in Florida, 10 years ago Al Gore said the Sea level in Florida will rise 24 ft because of the melting ice caps in Antarctica or Greenland, Well, if the ice caps are melting, why is the water level in Florida at a all time LOW?

HELLO!!!

Very well put!

**mulligan** · 07-11-2008, 03:28 AM

Just to clarify.

I have edited my original post to include the articles as they have a habit of disappearing from news websites, and highlighted in blue what I was originally talking about.

What is at issue here is why the VP forced scientists to downplay or delete testimony.

**nameslave** · 07-11-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider

What about Clinton's inaction of failing to combat terrorism for 8 years which led to 911?, It took Al Qaeda years of planning the attack, Planning that took place inside our own country under Bill "DO NOTHING" Clinton and your hero Al "Greedy" Gore.

To be fair, the Clinton Administration did underestimate the threat of Al Qaeda, which eventually led to 9/11. HOWEVER, the w administration (or Rice and Rumsfeld in particular, who were then National Security Advisor and Secretary of Defense respectively)'s oversight of the CLEAR AND PRESENT danger was "unforgivenable". Remember, 9/11 did not happen on the first day of w's presidency.

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The difference between the above two is; Thousands of innocent civilians died because of Clinton

How many innocent civilians died because of the war against Iraq again? Perhaps Iraqis don't count (as human beings).

**H2FC** · 07-11-2008, 09:03 AM

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Not at all, You spent 2 years on this forum whining like a b*tch about how Bush's inaction on Global Warming is going to lead us to this great climate catastrophe if we don't do something about it now....

You are clearly the one who "whines like a b*tch" when someone posts beliefs that are contrary to yours....you may dominate your own little personal corner of the world but here in the public arena you will find there are many who're not afraid to disagree with you. My advice is....don't take it so personal....get used to it!

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What about Clinton's inaction of failing to combat terrorism for 8 years which led to 911?, It took Al Qaeda years of planning the attack, Planning that took place inside our own country under Bill "DO NOTHING" Clinton and your hero Al "Greedy" Gore.
The difference between the above two is; Thousands of innocent civilians died because of Clinton, while under Bush, Al Gore's disaster predictions to this day have FAILED to materialize.

You ALWAYS bring Clinton and/or Gore into any debate about the Bush war and/or what to do about the MMGW problem. This thread is not about either one of them....we all know they are your only defense for our Goofball's president's dumb actions that have all but bankrupted this country and destroyed the reputation of the republican party.....that defense of Bush won't fly...Bush and Cheney are totally responsible for their own stupid, greedy, and unlawful actions.

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Like the water level in Florida, 10 years ago Al Gore said the Sea level in Florida will rise 24 ft because of the melting ice caps in Antarctica or Greenland, Well, if the ice caps are melting, why is the water level in Florida at a all time LOW?

HELLO!!!

If you're gonna talk about the MMGW problem the least you can do is get your facts right. Both of these assertions are completely wrong and don't even deserve comment.

**tas38** · 07-11-2008, 12:56 PM

No clinton, obama mccain, bush or his side kick dick, or MMGW for me for 1 month.

I'm off on a month long camping trip today, I'm sure you guys/gals will hold down the fort while I'm gone. I'll be back only a few times, to check in on stuff at home. Boy I got to set up camp yet today, the tent can be a real pain trying to get it together right.

**H2FC** · 07-11-2008, 01:15 PM

Have fun tas....be safe and we'll see you later.

**Raider** · 07-11-2008, 10:48 PM

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You are clearly the one who "whines like a b*tch" when someone posts beliefs that are contrary to yours.

Beliefs? You can believe in everything or anything you want too, but to come here and post lies, misinformation and doom and gloom based on Al Gores false assertions, That I have a real problem with.

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Originally Posted by H2FC

...you may dominate your own little personal corner of the world but here in the public arena you will find there are many who're not afraid to disagree with you. My advice is....don't take it so personal....get used to it!

It's hard to take anything personal from a environmental wacko who listens to Al Gore like he's some kind of God, Who can only see ONE side of the argument and rejects everything else, Who thinks Solar and Wind is the answer to all our energy needs... Who thinks Obama is the answer to saving the planet and stopping Global Warming, and who thinks his portfolio of Green Domains is actually worth something. ROFLMAO.

No, it's too hard to take anything you say personal or for that matter serious.... I learned that a long time ago.

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You ALWAYS bring Clinton and/or Gore into any debate about the Bush war.

Of course I do, The Wars were fighting today manefested under Bill Clinton and that global warming IDIOT Al Gore, where have you been? You really need to read more H2FC, I'll bet if I asked you to name what President involved us in Vietnam, you would probably say Nixon.

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Originally Posted by mulligan

Just to clarify.

I have edited my original post to include the articles as they have a habit of disappearing from news websites, and highlighted in blue what I was originally talking about.

What is at issue here is why the VP forced scientists to downplay or delete testimony.

The article is slanted, with no rebuttal from the administration.... Democratic Senator's trash the Executive branch all the time in a effort to stir up controversy... If you read why the pages were deleted, you'll find it was much to do about nothing..

**Devil Dog** · 07-11-2008, 11:44 PM

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Of course I do, The Wars were fighting today manefested under Bill Clinton and that global warming IDIOT Al Gore, where have you been? You really need to read more H2FC, I'll bet if I asked you to name what President involved us in Vietnam, you would probably say Nixon.

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Seriously though, do you honestly believe this 'conflict' we are involved in is Clinton's fault?

**Raider** · 07-12-2008, 07:16 AM

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Seriously though, do you honestly believe this 'conflict' we are involved in is Clinton's fault?

If your asking who's fault it is for going to war in Iraq, the answer is Saddam, Clinton and Bush, in that order.

It was Clinton, NOT Bush who brought claims that Iraq had WMD's, Listen to it in his own words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2iOVqYBqME

I think the person most responsible for 911 other than Bin Laden is Bill Clinton himself. Him, the CIA and FBI were fully aware of the Al Qaeda threat, ignoring repeated warnings by the NBI in the Phillippines that Al Qaeda was planning hijacking planes and flying them into Federal Buildings. He knew they were training in Afganistantan, Knew Bin Laden's location and did NOTHING about it...

Terrorist attacks by Al Qaeda against the USA under Clinton;

18 U.S. Soldiers killed in Somalia..
5 US. Soldiers killed in Saudi Arabia bombing.
Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, 19 killed, 200 military injured.
Bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, 224 killed and 5,000 injured.
USS Cole Bombing, 17 sailors killed, 39 injured.

Terrorist attacks against the USA after 911, under Bush;

Zero

If Clinton defended this country against terrorism like what Bush is doing today, We wouldn't be fighting two Wars and the Twin Towers would still be standing.

**Seraphim** · 07-12-2008, 07:53 AM

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If your asking who's fault it is for going to war in Iraq, the answer is Saddam, Clinton and Bush, in that order.

It was Clinton, NOT Bush who brought claims that Iraq had WMD's, Listen to it in his own words

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2iOVqYBqME

I think the person most responsible for 911 other than Bin Laden is Bill Clinton himself. Him, the CIA and FBI were fully aware of the Al Qaeda threat, ignoring repeated warnings by the NBI in the Phillippines that Al Qaeda was planning hijacking planes and flying them into Federal Buildings. He knew they were training in Afganistantan, Knew Bin Laden's location and did NOTHING about it...

Terrorist attacks by Al Qaeda against the USA under Clinton;

18 U.S. Soldiers killed in Somalia..
5 US. Soldiers killed in Saudi Arabia bombing.
Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, 19 killed, 200 military injured.
Bombing of the U.S. embassies in Africa, 224 killed and 5,000 injured.
USS Cole Bombing, 17 sailors killed, 39 injured.

Terrorist attacks against the USA after 911, under Bush;

Zero

If Clinton defended this country against terrorism like what Bush is doing today, We wouldn't be fighting two Wars and the Twin Towers would still be standing.

August 2, 1990, might want to look that one up.

The CIA was arming the Mujahideen in Afghanistan the moment the Soviets invaded in 1979. Should we also blame Carter, Reagan perhaps? A chain of events going back half a century doesn't start and end with Bill Clinton, that's absurd.

Where do some of you guys find the time to come up with some of this stuff? What's next, you're going to tell us which US president dropped the ball that lead to the attack on Pearl Harbor? So good presidents have time machines, and bad presidents have old Datsuns? Where's the line drawn?

**H2FC** · 07-12-2008, 12:54 PM

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Beliefs? You can believe in everything or anything you want too, but to come here and post lies, misinformation and doom and gloom based on Al Gores false assertions, That I have a real problem with.

So, in other words you're saying I have a right to my beliefs as long as I don't post what I believe here....if I post it here you view it as lies, misinformation, and gloom and doom? And you have a problem with that....well, as far as I'm concerned you can take your problem with that and stick it where the sun doesn't shine.

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It's hard to take anything personal from a environmental wacko who listens to Al Gore like he's some kind of God, Who can only see ONE side of the argument and rejects everything else, Who thinks Solar and Wind is the answer to all our energy needs

The only role Al Gore has and continues to play in the MMGW problem is that he has devoted his time, money and energy to calling attention to what is viewed by many, including myself, the most important and urgent problem of our generation....that of protecting our planet from present and future harm by the continued use of fossil fuels for energy. I do applaud him for that.

There is NO argument that co2 released by burning fossil fuels is causing climate changes and damaging our planet. The relative small minority of deniers you belong to are the only ones who insist there is a continuing debate/argument when there is none. And, yes, I do think solar and wind can solve our MMGW problem by providing the great majority of our energy without the use of fossil fuels. I think before the end of this century these two sources will prove to be the "holy grail" of our energy problem.

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Who thinks Obama is the answer to saving the planet and stopping Global Warming,

I must admit I don't like everything about Obama but I do believe he is our best chance for stopping globalwarming and saving our planet from climate change. I also like his position on stopping the insane Bush/Cheney war that's almost bankrupted our country and killed so many innocent people.

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and who thinks his portfolio of Green Domains is actually worth something. ROFLMAO.

Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks green domains are worth something....there are many members here who already own green domains and many others who are constantly searching for more good potentials in that sector including myself. However, I'm not concerned at all in what sector you invest in and I don't think you should concern yourself with my investments.

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No, it's too hard to take anything you say personal or for that matter serious.... I learned that a long time ago.

Thats just fine with me.....in fact I've learned to feel the same about you....good riddance.

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The Wars were fighting today manefested under Bill Clinton and that global warming IDIOT Al Gore, where have you been? You really need to read more H2FC,

As I said before you continually insist on blaming someone else for your beloved goofball presidents mistakes and errors. You not only need to read and learn more but you need to acquire and exhibit a little integrity in your relationships with others. Its obvious to anyone who reads your posts you are severely lacking in this area.

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The article is slanted, with no rebuttal from the administration.... Democratic Senator's trash the Executive branch all the time in a effort to stir up controversy... If you read why the pages were deleted, you'll find it was much to do about nothing..

Here again you are totally wrong. The Bush administration has been rebutting these type charges for years to no avail. Everybody, even the republicans know the charges are true but Bush continues to lie and practice the same deception over and over. Bush/Cheney will go down in history as the most lying, deceiving and worse administation this country has ever had. You continue to choose the wrong side of a bad situation.

**fab** · 07-12-2008, 05:20 PM

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How many innocent civilians died because of the war against Iraq again? Perhaps Iraqis don't count (as human beings).

Do you remember that Iraq invaded Kuwait, and Sadam ruthlessly killed thousands of Iraqi citizens as well.

**nameslave** · 07-12-2008, 08:26 PM

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Do you remember that Iraq invaded Kuwait, and Sadam ruthlessly killed thousands of Iraqi citizens as well.

I agree that since "Iraq invaded Kuwait", it's okay to kill innocent Iraqi civilians, esp. when they are just collateral damage, and "Sadam ruthlessly killed thousands of Iraqi citizens as well".

Like I said in another thread, we'll bomb this town and stop for lunch.