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    Taking out a second mortgage to pay for attorney's fees

    Yesterday our local paper posted an article about a local attorney who is helping homeowners fight foreclosure as well as loweing their balance due.

    His fee? 40% of the difference in the mortgage. So, if they lower your balance by $100,000 then your fee is $40,000. You'll basically need a second mortgage to pay the attorney's fees.

    IMO this is along the same lines as highway robbery. Many attornies will do this for under $3,000. I don't know why this office is charging so much.

    Since the story broke, though, I guess the BAR is now investigating them.

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    Wow! How excessive!

    There are so many non-profit organizations that do this for free, not to mention the mortgage holder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by draggar View Post
    Many attornies will do this for under $3,000. I don't know why this office is charging so much.
    Because many Attorney's are GREEDY... This is what gives Attorney's overall such a bad name.

    Instead of helping people in need and charging a reasonable rate, their capitalizing on a bad situation at a time when Homeowners are desperate.


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    It is worthwhile thinking about it... why is this the only country on earth where a predatory, nonproductive and parasitic profession called lawyering is given such incredible power.. to destroy and ravage and rape everything it touches... In the rest of the world these vermin would have to work for a living. They are really like termites eating away at the roots of the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thinkingsmall View Post
    It is worthwhile thinking about it... why is this the only country on earth where a predatory, nonproductive and parasitic profession called lawyering is given such incredible power.. to destroy and ravage and rape everything it touches... In the rest of the world these vermin would have to work for a living. They are really like termites eating away at the roots of the country.
    I couldn't agree with you more... What you really should do is ask all the Democrats that question when they REFUSED the Republicans request to include Tort Reform in the Health Care Bill, The reason they wanted no part of Tort Reform was because their on the side of Lawyers, Attorneys spent a lot of money lobbying Democrats AGAINST it, If Republicans did get their way and it was included, it would of significantly reduced Health Care costs in this Country.


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    My guess is it won't be lawyers that do anything about it. So that leaves what courageous soul?

    You have to shop price, like anything else, but if you go cheap you usually get cheap.
    I've known people that didn't want to spend a couple hundred dollars to consult a lawyer to possibly save themselves tens of thousands.
    Guess what happened?

    Frankly, I don't want my right to sue to be diminished and besides, it's protected by the Constitution, so good luck with that.
    I would think that a business entity's right to sue is protected by the Constitution also, but "I'm not a lawyer".
    Of course, I don't know how much weight the Constitution carries with the present administration in order to put that protection into practice....

    Fact is, a suit or threat of, could be your strongest weapon against lawyers, corporations, forum posters or even governments.
    Don't let them mess with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider View Post
    I couldn't agree with you more... What you really should do is ask all the Democrats that question when they REFUSED the Republicans request to include Tort Reform in the Health Care Bill, The reason they wanted no part of Tort Reform was because their on the side of Lawyers, Attorneys spent a lot of money lobbying Democrats AGAINST it, If Republicans did get their way and it was included, it would of significantly reduced Health Care costs in this Country.
    Wrong again raider....the reason the dems wanted no part of tort reform was because the middle class common people must have some legal way to protect themselves from the greedy and powerful who claim they would police themselves and provide fairness to everyone.....which has been proven many times over to be untrue.

    The reps wanted tort reform as just another way to give more power to the rich and greedy but whats amazing to me is that dummies like you support such actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    Wrong again raider....the reason the dems wanted no part of tort reform was because the middle class common people must have some legal way to protect themselves from the greedy and powerful who claim they would police
    themselves and provide fairness to everyone.....which has been proven many times over to be untrue.

    The reps wanted tort reform as just another way to give more power to the rich and greedy but whats amazing to me is that dummies like you support such actions.
    You just cant think outside the box can you?, Everything is always black and white with you, The greedy rich and middle class, But what you FAIL to realize is, YOU and idiots like you continue to support the very GREEDY RICH. Your doing that here by protecting the Trial Lawyers, You DOLT.


    The champions of this status quo are the trial lawyers.


    No, it is not all the former lawyers who support lottery payouts as might be expected. Data analysis indicates that former occupation has almost no effect on medical malpractice reform voting.

    The trial lawyers outside of Congress are actually the ones controlling the voting and blocking malpractice reform that would reduce healthcare costs to all Americans.

    How?

    90% of Trial Attorney lobby campaign donations went to Democrats and 99% of Class Action Trial Attorney donations went to Democrats. Predictably, Democrats in both the House and Senate then vote as instructed by their financers in order to protect their re-election money supply.


    In the Senate:

    * 95% of Democrats voted to prevent Medical Malpractice Reform
    * 7% of Republicans voted to prevent Medical Malpractice Reform (The only 2 Republicans in this entire group were Shelby AL (a lawyer and former Democrat) and Graham SC (also a lawyer who typically supports agendas of Democrats).


    In the House:

    * 95% of Democrats voted to prevent Medical Malpractice Reform
    * 11% of Republicans voted to prevent Medical Malpractice Reform



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    Raider you can take your BS Hard Right website and jam it.....its easy to find untruthful articles that support warped opinions but that doesn't mean a thing to those who know better.

    I don't like unfair dealings whether they be from attorneys, medical doctors, hospitals, or crooked politicians. The truth of the matter is that without the laws, lawyers and lawsuits the average person wouldn't have a chance of being treated fairly and safely.

    Sure, the powers that be always want to police themselves and they will promise to look out for and protect everyone fairly....haha, maybe you believe that but I don't and thats why I don't support tort reform.....and no amount of brainwashing will change my opinion.

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    Seriously, there is an argument in here over which party is more or less for tort reform? I'm shocked the right has even managed to distort the discourse on this issue. I know dozens of lawyers, not a one of them is a democrat. Anecdotal I know, but its absurd to suggest dems are anti tort reform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gawnd View Post
    Seriously, there is an argument in here over which party is more or less for tort reform? I'm shocked the right has even managed to distort the discourse on this issue. I know dozens of lawyers, not a one of them is a democrat. Anecdotal I know, but its absurd to suggest dems are anti tort reform.
    You couldn't be more wrong, you might want to google Tort Reform and look at what party the Trial Lawyers are backing.

    Republicans have long been pushing for Tort reform only to be blocked by the greedy rich lawyers who H2FC supports.



    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    Raider you can take your BS Hard Right website and jam it.....its easy to find untruthful articles that support warped opinions but that doesn't mean a thing to those who know better.
    Unless you prove those figures untruthful, your point here is MUTE.

    It's all a matter of public record, Look it up on a dot Gov. if you like.


    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    I don't like unfair dealings whether they be from attorneys, medical doctors, hospitals, or crooked politicians. The truth of the matter is that without the laws, lawyers and lawsuits the average person wouldn't have a chance of being treated fairly and safely.
    Nobody is suggesting we strip the laws away, Do you even know what Tort Reform is? I honestly DON'T think you do.

    It's true when they say; “The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about”
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    Ah ha ha ha ha...

    Now look who the expert is on Medical Tort Reform.

    Jesus, there is just no end to the expertness that you exude (or ooze like a festering wound).

    Yeah, the GOP's plan was to cap jury awards for medical malpractice at $250K. The idea was it would cut out frivolous lawsuits. Hey, great idea. But they forgot one thing - Legitimate Lawsuits!

    So, the GOP's plan for TORT reform was to cap serious error, chopping off wrong limb, taking out the good kidney instead of the bad, or causing serious irrepairable permanent brain damage to your new born infant, and death by mistake at $250K.

    Yes, the GOP had a plan. I sat through the presentation of that plan in person in High Point NC when President Bush visited High Point Hospital followed by a speech and presenting this GOP plan at High Point University. As much as I'd like to see malpractice insurance decrease (or put a cap on that increase!), the plan by the GOP was in reality to eliminate all LEGITIMATE lawsuits by limiting all wrongful death or dismemberment or life altering human error at some Frivolous Ceiling on the value of a human life.

    Yes, the GOP decided the cost of a human life or error (one of those Ooops! surgical room moments) was $250K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Yes, the GOP decided the cost of a human life or error (one of those Ooops! surgical room moments) was $250K.
    This again shows how little you know... That amount would vary from State to State, It's not like it was written in Stone, it was open to revision during the Health Care negotiations, but your Boy Obama wanted NO part of Tort reform, how could he when he's been BOUGHT and PAID for by the Trial Lawyers?

    The GOP was pushing for Tort Reform to eliminate outrageous judgments, judgments that amount in the tens of Millions of dollars, judgments that DRIVE up Malpractice insurance and Health Care costs.

    Here's one malpractice lawsuit where the jury ordered the physician to pay the family $35.3 MILLION Dollars[/B]
    http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com...tox-death.html

    I don't know what the "just" settlement should be in a case like this, but $35 Million to the Family for pain and suffering of losing a loved one? Please.

    You would think a judgment of this size would be awarded to the living, like somebody who's was paralyzed due to malpractice and needs special care for the rest of their life.

    You can argue and blast the GOP all you want to, the Fact is their on the RIGHT side of this issue in working to reduce health care costs, Obama and dolts like you are on the side of INCREASING Health Care costs;


    Report: Health overhaul will increase tab

    Health and Human Services experts say plan falls short of controlling costs

    By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR Associated Press Writer
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    WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care overhaul law will increase the nation's health care tab instead of bringing costs down, government economic forecasters concluded Thursday in a sobering assessment of the sweeping legislation.

    A report by economic experts at the Health and Human Services Department said the health care remake will achieve Obama's aim of expanding health insurance — adding 34 million Americans to the coverage rolls.

    But the analysis also found that the law falls short of the president's twin goal of controlling runaway costs. It also warned that Medicare cuts may be unrealistic and unsustainable, driving about 15 percent of hospitals into the red and "possibly jeopardizing access" to care for seniors.


    MORE>>>>>


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    Doesn't this Hospital look a lot like High Point Hospital in N.C.?
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    Somethings I just don't get about Republicans...

    "We want smaller government, but the strongest and most advanced army in the world... and we would like to take over all other countries"
    "We don't want to pay taxes, but we want the strongest and most advanced army in the world and like to go to war under false circumstances"
    "We don't want lawyers, because they fight for the American people when necessary (or unnecessary)" - that is the client and lawyers decision, whether or not anyone else thinks its wrong or right you commies.

    Sure lawyers might not do right ALL the time, but they sure do a hell of a lot of good. They give ordinary people a fighting chance against large corporations and businesses who think they own this country.

    I think its time for a TRUE Tea Party to fight for OUR country back from the TRUE culprits... BIG BUSINESS.

    open your eyes people. You don't want government in all your business, but you have absolutely no problem with big corporations all up in your daily life. REALLY? make sense...

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    Democrats got the US into the vast majority of wars since 1900.
    They were even the first to order the killing of 100,000+ people, including innocent women and children, with just the push of a button.
    They've got nerve trying to play themselves as the one and only pacifists.

    Obama is in bed with big business and you're bad mouthing big business? Lordy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area52 View Post
    Democrats got the US into the vast majority of wars since 1900.
    They were even the first to order the killing of 100,000+ people, including innocent women and children, with just the push of a button.
    They've got nerve trying to play themselves as the one and only pacifists.

    Obama is in bed with big business and you're bad mouthing big business? Lordy.
    Re-read my post, acknowledge it, then make a response please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zurc.net View Post
    Re-read my post, acknowledge it, then make a response please.
    Why would Area53 want to do that? I don't think he would do it for the same reason Tom Brokaw wont appear with Keith Olbermann, He'd be debating with a dunce.

    This is the same kind of asinine material Keith uses to trash the opposition; You must be a big fan.

    Quote Originally Posted by zurc.net View Post
    "we would like to take over all other countries"
    "We don't want to pay taxes"
    "We don't want lawyers


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    is that not what you are saying? Lol, you people are so confused it's not even funny. And I don't watch MSNBC other than between 9:30 and 4pm US EST and that is very rare.... keith oberman is a idiot just like your fox and friends. I have a life, unlike yourself. I work and enjoy my family as much as possible, I don't sit on forums trying to spread my misery and twisted views in any possible way for any particular reason.

    I am going to have to speak with your "Daddy" and let him know he needs to start taking care of business... its obvious he doesn't, shows way too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zurc.net View Post
    Re-read my post, acknowledge it, then make a response please.
    And inform him that democrats did not get us into the majority of wars since 1900.

    It was the Germans with the sinking of the Lusatania in 1915 and then this little mishap in 1941 with the Japanese bombing Pearl Harbor, and Gulf of Tonkin in 1964.

    Quite a student of history, he is, trying to trip you up.

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