US Airstrike inside Pakistan Kills 11 Soldiers

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 05:36 AM

This is what fires up the Hatred amongst the common people here against USA , i mean Pakistan is supporting them in the War against Terror and what do they do kill those soldiers who are supporting them and not even by accident and this was not the first time but it was the first time they have actually acknowledged the attack WTF

do they think they are doing by actions like these ? + they also breached the border if they think thats going to help them in any way they are cowards. what if Pakistan killed 11 of there men knowingly

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7449060.stm

**Seraphim** · 06-13-2008, 09:25 AM

According to the BBC it was friendly fire. Supposedly every enemy of the free world is hiding in that area, who knows if that's true.

**ck89102** · 06-13-2008, 09:41 AM

QUOTE from the news article:
The US military said in a statement that coalition troops had come under fire from "anti-Afghan forces" in a wooded area near the Pakistan border. A spokesman for a pro-Taleban militant group in Pakistan said it had launched an attack on US and Afghan army troops trying to set up a border control post.
"We launched an attack on them from several sides and caused serious harm - and then the US and Nato forces began a series of air strikes," said the spokesman, Maulvi Umar.

I do not think the Pakistani solders were the target. And the Taleban must share in the blame. However rather than debate, my condolences for the tragedy.

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 10:05 AM

First of all there is a traeaty that they cant launch an attack inside Pakistan without any confirmation from the Pakistani side second of all why the bloody hell didn't they see a clearly marked Pakistani which shows up on map of every troop member working there ?

DO you think this will make America win its so called war on terror if you kill the people who support you the army soldiers operating there are from the same tribal areas and if you are going to kill the same army personnels who until now have been your friends do you expect smiling faces and waves from them rather than attacks upon the US Forces in Afghanistan

**Devil Dog** · 06-13-2008, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by Ehsan

First of all there is a traeaty that they cant launch an attack inside Pakistan without any confirmation from the Pakistani side second of all why the bloody hell didn't they see a clearly marked Pakistani which shows up on map of every troop member working there ?

DO you think this will make America win its so called war on terror if you kill the people who support you the army soldiers operating there are from the same tribal areas and if you are going to kill the same army personnels who until now have been your friends do you expect smiling faces and waves from them rather than attacks upon the US Forces in Afghanistan

Word on the street was that the Pakistanis were fighting alongside the Taliban shooting at Afghan forces, who then fled back into Pakistan once receiving counter fire. This led to the bombing.

Oh, but I'm sure there are no reports of that in the Pakistani News.

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 11:19 AM

Word on the street huh ? WTF just another of those silly and coward reasons .... don't give me that propaganda bullshit , I am sure now the will be prepared to fight along side with them and give more reasons for the Tribal's , i once read on i think youtube that America is a teenager country going through puberty hence there behavior is like this but we do know what happens to Teen Brats ..... in the end i do know that a lot soliders recruited in the army are already convicted criminals

**GAMEFINEST** · 06-13-2008, 11:20 AM

hmm

**Devil Dog** · 06-13-2008, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Ehsan

Word on the street huh ? WTF just another of those silly and coward reasons .... don't give me that propaganda bullshit , I am sure now the will be prepared to fight along side with them and give more reasons for the Tribal's , i once read on i think youtube that America is a teenager country going through puberty hence there behavior is like this but we do know what happens to Teen Brats ..... in the end i do know that a lot soliders recruited in the army are already convicted criminals

Yes, youtube is a viable source of information that we all should believe in.

Who posted that video, Al Qaeda?

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 12:00 PM

ahha yeah if some actual American starts using there brain and thinks sensibly he / she becomes AlQaeda , anti American and a terrorist here is the youtube video link and they all are Americans unless you brand them terrorists because of not supporting the cowardly acts of the Govt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LysxbVZ1DNM

**Credit** · 06-13-2008, 12:03 PM

Shit sucks.

**Seraphim** · 06-13-2008, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Ehsan

Word on the street huh ? WTF just another of those silly and coward reasons .... don't give me that propaganda bullshit , I am sure now the will be prepared to fight along side with them and give more reasons for the Tribal's , i once read on i think youtube that America is a teenager country going through puberty hence there behavior is like this but we do know what happens to Teen Brats ..... in the end i do know that a lot soliders recruited in the army are already convicted criminals

The real question that begs to be answered, is if US friendly Pakistani soldiers are stationed in that area, how are hostile forces able to shell US positions? Don't you think that seems just a little odd? Complacency, severe incompetence, or collaboration?

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 12:12 PM

Who says that there was shelling + there isn't like a few grassy hills where you patrol can the Americans keep control of the Hills in Afghanistan no the Taliban even takeover th cities in Afghanistan but the border is too long and a hard mountainous region but there are slips i don't say there are not but that doesn't mean you come blindfolded and bomb regardless of borders and everything

**Seraphim** · 06-13-2008, 12:23 PM

Well at any rate condolences. I remember the British lost tons of soldiers to US friendly fire in Iraq. War sucks.

**ddaybofb** · 06-13-2008, 12:24 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapc...ref=newssearch

A U.S. official with knowledge of the incident told CNN the airstrike targeted suspected militants who had fled into Pakistan after conducting an ambush on the Afghan side of the border.

"The official said Pakistani military officials worked with the U.S. forces to track the militants as they fled across the border into Pakistan. The official also said the mission was permitted under the rules of engagement, which allow "hot pursuit" across the border of suspected militants when their locations are verified."

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by Seraphim

Well at any rate condolences. I remember the British lost tons of soldiers to US friendly fire in Iraq. War sucks.

Thanks Seraphim , i think British got into the war unwillingly due to some foolish politicians i know British are not like Americans

btw ddayfob what the general says is just a big lie like the WMD's and every other US Govt lie don't know how long can they keep this going no Pakistan Official has said that they were working with the US Govt on this mission and they are saying there was no indication of this attack and no prior signal was given which is mentioned in the agreement

**ddaybofb** · 06-13-2008, 12:50 PM

How can you say they lie when you dont even live in the U.s.? Dont make accusations, when you don't have solid proof!!

Sp pakistan officials don't lie just the people in the U.S.?

Yeah ok

We have soldiers in iraq dying every single day you dont see use coming on here and complaining about it.

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 12:55 PM

I don't live in the US but everyone knows what the reality i am sorry if i don't stick to the normal propaganda and watch Fox News , you have soldiers dying there every day for what ? for a war base on HUGE LIE ? is that a good thing to make your men die for such a big Lie ? Life is important regardless of race , religion , country but i don't see what you are trying to compare here ?

**PRED** · 06-13-2008, 01:11 PM

it seems a U.S apology would be the minimum here but i doubt that will happen.
details are a bit sketchy. only source i trust is bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7449060.stm
(already posted)
they look like civilians and soldiers gathered around the coffins

problem with this and all other acts of violence is the knock on efefect. those 11 men will know thousands of people amongst them, all will be affected by it and direct anger and hate at allied forces. small wonder really

only thing that surprises me here is they didnt manage kill any civilians by accident as unfortunately that happens too much.
i feel sorry for the troops and their families on both sides as they are the poor souls caught up in this obscene war that you couldnt make up.
the majority of educated people realise this now, and years ago, before all this bullshit started.

how will history judge the supporters and instigators?
just remember which way you voted guys , something to tell the grandkids.
no lies now

**ddaybofb** · 06-13-2008, 01:21 PM

so I guess everything that happened on 9/11 is lie?
How Al Qaeda attack us on our own soil i guess thats lie?
We took down Saddam Hussein i guess thats a lie?
And your wondering why we are fighting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_-x9kMPauc

**Ehsan** · 06-13-2008, 01:28 PM

That what has been embedded into your minds that its all about us being attacked and those being terrorists and freedom in endanger what do you think how far a man or a corporation will go? its all about the Money and what right do you have or who gave you the right to take saddam down if i or we think Bush has no right to be there what gives me the right to go and Hang Bush ? now i have seen your video would you be bothered to take a look at this video http://www.usaboard.sk/download/skurvena-amerika.avi its all there for you to see if you look deep enough and in detail but if you just wanna go with the flow and don't care whats right or wrong its up to you to make that choice !