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**domaingenius** · 03-06-2008, 03:59 PM

And the US wonders why they are so hated.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03...cuba_websites/

DG

**draggar** · 03-06-2008, 04:02 PM

Please don't think all Americans are like this. I find that ruling appaling.

Cuba is one of the only places an American can go to jail for just visiting.

**fab** · 03-06-2008, 04:06 PM

Sounds odd to me. Do you have any other sources for this story.

**draggar** · 03-06-2008, 04:09 PM

It broke the other day, I think either the domain was with a US registrar or the site was hosted with a US hosting company.

**PREDATOR** · 03-06-2008, 04:10 PM

madness

**Ehsan** · 03-06-2008, 04:12 PM

Thats f**** crazy , now i have one more reason to hate USA

**dominator** · 03-06-2008, 04:12 PM

Why is Cuba worse than China? I think China is much worse. But we buy everything from China. Everything. Including domains.

**BELLC1** · 03-06-2008, 04:13 PM

And China blocks us, too!

**domaingenius** · 03-06-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by draggar

Please don't think all Americans are like this. I find that ruling appaling.

Cuba is one of the only places an American can go to jail for just visiting.

No I dont, I have some good friends in USA. It is the dickhead politicians that are the problem like Bush and Blair for two.

DG

**draggar** · 03-06-2008, 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dominator

Why is Cuba worse than China? I think China is much worse. But we buy everything from China. Everything. Including domains.

Because Cuba has nuclear weapons and fought against us during the Korean war. They sent us toys, human food, and pet food that were all poisonous.

Oh, wait, I think I have that backwards.

**Poker** · 03-06-2008, 04:19 PM

Don't hate America, hate the idiots in office making all their own rules...

http://www.dnforum.com/f254/u-s-trea...ad-283254.html

**draggar** · 03-06-2008, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by domaingenius

No I dont, I have some good friends in USA. It is the dickhead politicians that are the problem like Bush and Blair for two.

And unfortunately a lot of Americans base their votes on wether their candidate affiliates themselves with an elephant or a donkey. Most don't look at what the politician has done in the past (or don't even care) and their only sources of information are from the media (all biased). No one looks up the candidates to see what they've actually done.

We need middle and lower class people in Washington, too but unfortunately those seats are bought with unearned money which most Americans can't afford.

**audubon** · 03-06-2008, 04:23 PM

Here's the U. S. Treasury Dept. press release: http://usinfo.state.gov/wh/Archive/2...08-868923.html

excerpts:

"TOUR & MARKETING INTERNATIONAL LTD. caters to U.S. citizens by asserting that it is not only Cuba's number-one agency for American travelers, but also that it is able to serve all travelers -- regardless of whether they have a Treasury-issued license to travel to the sanctioned country. In addition, the travel agency emphasizes that it is mandatory for U.S. citizens to use the company's online payment system."

"TOUR & MARKETING INTERNATIONAL LTD. has five offices in Cuba, one in Spain, one in England and one in the British Virgin Islands. The company's principal and manager are either domiciled in Cuba or nationals of Cuba. TOUR & MARKETING INTERNATIONAL LTD. is the official tour operator representing the Government of Cuba's Agencia Receptora Ecotur S.A., one of Cuba's largest local agencies."

So they are saying that T&M encouraged violating U.S. law, and that's why the websites were cut off.

Also note that this is from December 2004, and eNom acted in October 2007, according to this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/04/us...0A&oref=slogin

I noticed that the domains mentioned in the article, cuba-hemingway.com, cuba-havanacity.com, ciaocuba.com, and bonjourcuba.com, all appear to have valid DNS servers (ns1.digitalpanorama.net and ns2.digitalpanorama.net), yet none of those domains resolve. www.digitalpanorama.net itself does resolve, apparently to a website operated by Mr. Marshall.

The IP addresses (24.244.141.113 and 24.244.141.114) of the nameservers are registered to "Cable Bahamas" in the Bahamas. Based on the NXDOMAIN response, it appears that these servers simply don't have records for the unresolving domains. So can someone explain why Marshall couldn't just add the records? (cuba-guantanamo.com uses those servers and resolves just fine.)

Update: I see why they don't resolve -- the status is ClientHold, which prevents inclusion in the zone file.

**nameadvertising.com** · 03-06-2008, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ehsan

Thats f**** crazy , now i have one more reason to hate USA

Sure! When did you guys ever show LOVE for anyone?

**Jeffreyw** · 03-06-2008, 04:40 PM

Kicking against the goads. The US government making unfounded measures at the expense of its citizens.

**acronym007** · 03-06-2008, 04:42 PM

I love America. People can't hate a nation because of one mistake or mistakes by politicians, every nation makes mistakes. Be critical of nations like Cuba, Iran, China, and North Korea. When will they have true freedom? American men and women have fought and died all over this planet for humanitarian purposes and freedom. Everyone loves the freedom but hates the freedom giver? Go bash something or some nation worthy of bashing, not my country.

You can hate this mistake and law but the fact is the bitterness between America and Cuba goes way back. We are still trying to punish each other for mistakes of past. Like a bitter husband/wife. One day Cuba will change, one day the dictatorship will die and the old regime will pass but until then all you people that hate America be sure to tell all the Cubans trying to board rafts to get here for freedom because they don't believe what you believe.

**MobileDesigner** · 03-06-2008, 08:54 PM

love us, we love you back
love you, love us back.

every countries' government are educated to manipulate and are uneducated to understand others worldwide. Dont forget that the media loves to exaggerate. Then we get sucked in to hear more of this. what a terrible way to make us patriotic.

if you come to japan, i wont throw sushi at you. if you come here, we will drink together. can i have the same invitation if i go to Syria? Pakistan? Cuba? North Korea? I hope I do! but if i complain about the politics, i wont be invited.

Love thy neighbor - F*** the government

**VirtualT** · 03-06-2008, 08:59 PM

another reason why control of the .com and .net space needs to be taken out of US control asap

**bd77** · 03-06-2008, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ehsan

Thats f**** crazy , now i have one more reason to hate USA

A member of the religion of Peace has spoken. Would it make sense if because of your statement I decided to hate all of Pakistan?

**sdsinc** · 03-07-2008, 08:38 AM

True patriots love their country and hate their government