Are we going to see another Tianamen Square in Iran?

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by copper

Well done Pred!
Many of your site user will remember your site and continue
to use it even when this terrible situation is over.

That's when you can add small ads and reap the benefits of your good deed

I agree.

The most important things at the moment is usage - not ads.

Play to the usage and provide only content that is relevent.

I do not think anyone will ever question the power of social networking, mobile connectivity, wireless, and the freedom of the internet.

Well, yes...they will question. Human nature.

[PRED]

Originally Posted by copper

Well done Pred!
Many of your site user will remember your site and continue
to use it even when this terrible situation is over.

That's when you can add small ads and reap the benefits of your good deed

cheers Copster,
well, it had crossed my mind.
although i rather use links for my other sites and grow them organically. money comes later

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by PRED

cheers Copster,
well, it had crossed my mind.
although i rather use links for my other sites and grow them organically. money comes later

Absolutely a great notion.

Use YOUR traffic for YOUR sites feeding YOUR network of sites.

Not many have grasped this concept.

Want links and traffic?

Link to yourself!

[copper]

Originally Posted by PRED

cheers Copster,
well, it had crossed my mind.
although i rather use links for my other sites and grow them organically. money comes later

Actually, that's even better!
I hope your proxy site and your other sites have different Class C IP.

[PRED]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

Absolutely a great notion.

Use YOUR traffic for YOUR sites feeding YOUR network of sites.

Not many have grasped this concept.

Want links and traffic?

Link to yourself!

spot on

even a monster site like break.com which although not a unique idea, they are faster growing in U.S than twitter i believe
although site unremarkable they capture the golden male 15 - 40 demographic

see at top of their page the links to other sites like chickopedia

now check all the alexas for them
those sites would not do a nano percentage of what their doing without the host behemoth

its the way to go

on the other extreme, remember when rick sold ireport, had no real traffic, alexa etc

obviously with the new owners and some promotion on other sites and telly got like top 10k in weeks, and the rest is history
we cant do what they did, but can grow our userbase
personally i think google adsense is a false economy, for the peanuts you get. companies always come to you when you get top rankings or really targetted traffic or just shedloads of traffic. one or 2 companies sponsoring is better and then you can budget for year
plus google are thieves. all you need is no privacy page or terms or whatever on one site and they can withold/steal payment.
screw google adsesnse

anyway i think we should get back on topic

i saw an amazing vid on youtube other day of protests in iran. they were peacefully protesting and a mob of motorbike riding thugs and police,came along beating and disrupting
after many beatings to crowd, a bike crashed and 2 individuals were beaten. the crowd grabbed one guy and saved him and stopped a few getting their own back. they protected and saved him
it was amazing, i'll try and find link

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by PRED

i saw an amazing vid on youtube other day of protests in iran. they were peacefully protesting and a mob of motorbike riding thugs and police,came along beating and disrupting
after many beatings to crowd, a bike crashed and 2 individuals were beaten. the crowd grabbed one guy and saved him and stopped a few getting their own back. they protected and saved him
it was amazing, i'll try and find link

I think I saw that.

Each motorcycle has a second person with batons swinging and beating people as the motorcycle was attempting to drive through the crowd.

It is a wonder that the crowd from behind has not pulled some of those cops off the motorcycle and beaten them.

[PRED]

thats the one

i too thought that, but one thing thinking and another doing. we thought it but prob would not have in us, like them

also they have draconian laws. they still hang.......... and children too. in fact they hang more children than anyone in world. just typing that makes me want to go to bathroom and be physically sick, i can tell you

so, you can guess what would happen to anyone identified as beating a government bully boy or cop

they have a very educated population too. those people are business owners, students, families etc. not a hired mob

a simple act of compassion like that to a guy that is a hired hand sometimes can be a spark in itself. if he doesnt reflect leter on what happened and how the mass of people are good decent people , and questions what he's doing,then something is up

on a sidenote , the freedom of info we enjoy and that they enjoy, ie. using youtube etc is all well and good, when they can access, as media banned etc. but the government agencies will be checking these vids too. and isolating individuals and rounding them up when/if protests stop

you can only imagine what will happen to some people
virtually no chance of getting anything reported to main world either. its only the bravest people like amnesty international and oxfam etc who can try and weasel out facts and get it 'out there'

[draggar]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

I do not think anyone will ever question the power of social networking, mobile connectivity, wireless, and the freedom of the internet.

From CNN.com:

A 19-year-old woman who was wounded by Iranian paramilitary forces with clubs escaped with her camera and shared her photos with CNN -- after tricking a paramilitary soldier into thinking she had given him the images on a disk.

It's scary that it's come to this - they have some interesting pictures on their site.

Edit: Some of the news coming out are definately echoing the beginning of Tianamen square.

[Doc Com]

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...edName=topNews

Click on the video link to the left of Latest Deadly Clashes

As mentioned, one woman reported that any one with a camera was a target of the police and their thugs.

Soon, I would imagine anyone displaying a mobile phone will be the target as there are many that take pics and videos as well as text.

This is truly events being reported and broadcast by people living it. A whole new media.

Some powerful stuff.

[PRED]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/8112036.stm

also

http://www.reuters.mobi/mobile/m/Ful...55F54520090621

[copper]

What a sad sad world

[bd77]

It is what it is. There isn't much we can do about but show are support for the protesters. It will take a armed revolution to get rid of the Ayatollahs. Throwing rocks doesn't cut it.

[JMJ]

Looks like it's working for this crowd

http://www.bbc.co.uk/persian/iran/20..._clashes.shtml

[Doc Com]

I am hoping it will come to a point that the police and military forces will be so overwhelmed by the numbers of protesters that the young men of the police and military will shed their clothes and join the throngs rather than fire upon them.

[Seraphim]

Originally Posted by PRED

cheers bro
to you too Ger. many do not know that Ger & his wife virtually run an orphanage over there, out of their own pocket.
post some pics

I use your proxy all the time. It's a great way to see how my sites rank in alternative geo driven Google data centers. Awesome tool man! Good to hear the Iranians are using it as well!

Originally Posted by aZooZa

Back when Mike was semi-human looking.

[draggar]

Originally Posted by Doc Com

I am hoping it will come to a point that the police and military forces will be so overwhelmed by the numbers of protesters that the young men of the police and military will shed their clothes and join the throngs rather than fire upon them.

I feel sorry for the policemen there. While the politicians who are the ones making all the statements, demands, complaints, and recommendations, the policemen are the one at the front lines throwing teargas at, and having rocks thrown at them by, their neighbors, friends, and people they see every day. They are there trying to do their jobs (and to follow orders).

THEY are the ones in the most danger right now. You see in JMJ's video - it's a handful of policemen vs. several hundred to several thousand protesters. (Of course, you can see this in any country).

As for what Doc said - who knows what will happen to them for "deserting" their posts.

[tristanperry]

Guardian Council admits discrepancies in presidential vote

Monday 22 June 2009
Iran's Guardian Council says that the number of votes counted in the disputed June 12 election that handed President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a second term exceeded the number of eligible voters in 50 of 366 electoral districts.

http://www.france24.com/en/20090622-...n-presidential

Figures. Lots of news stories being linked to on the BBC website saying that hundreds have been 'arrested' after the protests, etc.

And *not* for the faint of hearted (seriously) but there's this:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...rom=public_rss

Echoing Tienanmen Square more and more :(

[draggar]

I've seen that story, Tristian - it is sad (and clearly being used as propaganda for anti-government / pro protesters).

Many videos being leaked onto the internet show people being shot and beaten (beaten on both sides - protesters and police).

[tristanperry]

Originally Posted by draggar

I've seen that story, Tristian - it is sad (and clearly being used as propaganda for anti-government / pro protesters).

Many videos being leaked onto the internet show people being shot and beaten (beaten on both sides - protesters and police).

Yes I quite agree. It is just interesting to see a little flavour of what is probably going on daily there. Sad stuff.

[south]

Well, just thought I might check to see if Neda Soltani dotcom/net/org might still be around.. Of course I knew better. I see they're parked. Would be nice if whoever got them would do something beneficial with them.