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Old 09-30-2009, 10:48 PM   #181 (permalink)
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I still have not made my mind up to take it or not.

But the thread is titled, What to do If You Are Forced to Take Swine Flu Shot.

And no one has addressed that issue except me - where is the forcing of anyone to take this shot? And what was you advice if forced? Is someone going to address that question? Or are you relying on people to read Dr. Blaylock's advice offering the 15 different home remedy concoctions to rid your body of toxins? Are you seriously offering that as the advice of What to do If You Are Forced to Take Swine Flu Shot?
What to do? Protest! Healthcare workers in NY may lose their jobs if they don't take the vaccine.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09...y5353611.shtml

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/21/ny....html?_r=1&hpw
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Old 10-01-2009, 12:41 AM   #182 (permalink)
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I have not yet determined whether I will voluntarily take the H1N1 vaccine or be forced to take it.

I am not sure. Many hospitals across the nation are requiring hospital staff to take it or face being dismissed.

There is a planned protest in Albany NY tomorrow.

A new study from docs in New Zealand/Australia determine that the H1N1 virus is 1000 times more likely to enter the lungs than the normal strain of seasonal flu.

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In most cases, flu remains in the nose, throat and bronchi, where it causes a runny nose, sore throat and cough until the body’s immune systems eliminates it, usually within a week.

The new H1N1 strain may be at least 1,000 times more adept than seasonal flu at infiltrating the lower branches of the airway, said Yoshihiro Kawaoka, a virologist at the University of Tokyo, who has studied the viruses in non-human primates.

In severe cases, influenza can damage the capillaries surrounding the tiny grape-like sacs, known as alveoli, where gas is exchanged through the blood. Damaged alveoli can bleed, causing pulmonary hemorrhage and blood clots.

Inflammatory chemicals are produced by the immune system to fight the infection and repair the damage. An over-exuberant response can worsen the effect by filling the lungs with fluid and cause permanent scarring that restricts the lungs.
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Old 10-01-2009, 02:19 AM   #183 (permalink)
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Just thinking off the top of my head.

Massachusetts Swine shots are mandatory.
Many schools across the nation it is mandatory.
Military it's mandatory.
Medical workers it is mandatory many places.
My VA acts like I must get the Flu shot every year and has the nerve to even ask me why won't I get one. Oh I love to tell them why and all the poisons that are proven to be in those shots. They also have never been proven to work!
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Being a full-time domainer surely has it's advantages...I encourage everyone to minimize contact with the public until this whole thing blows over....don't be afraid to wear a mask, eat at home, wash your hands, get the best micro allergen air filter you can buy for your a/c. Above all, take care of yourself and stay away from hotspots like bars, strip clubs, large social gatherings, etc. You do not HAVE to get the flu this year.
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Old 10-01-2009, 11:18 AM   #185 (permalink)
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I eat a raw onion every day in the winter, and when I do that I have not got sick at all. Onions are good for that and work pretty well, garlic is also good to keep you well in the fall and winter.
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Once more, I would like to offer this reminder:

Stay away from hospitals - needless to say, they are the biggest "hot zone" for virus and bugs

Here are some latest numbers being tossed around:

Report: Flu might fill up hospitals in 15 states
35 percent of Americans could fall ill during peak of outbreak

By the outbreak's peak, the new report suggests Delaware and Connecticut hospitals would fill up soonest. Also on that list: Arizona, California, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia and Washington.

To deal with overcrowding from emergencies, hospitals are supposed to have "surge" plans — when they would postpone elective surgeries to free up beds, for instance, and when they might even need to call in government help for mobile hospital units.


Some hospitals have already erected tent ER's to keep flu symptoms away from the hospital populations.

Locally, several hospitals have banded together to announce that they will not allow visitors under 18 through flu season. This was just revealed yesterday.
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What are they doing to help at schools, it would seem they would put that first on the list, to keep kids and teens from speading it around to each other.
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Spoke to a nurse who heads the intensive care unit at a BIG local hospital, she said they have seen 2 Swine Flu cases, one was a very obese older dude with asthma & the other was a very young child with mild symptoms that they think might have not even been that flu but the regular one...the obese guy recovered in a week despite his poor initial health status and breathing issues.
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Spoke to a nurse who heads the intensive care unit at a BIG local hospital, she said they have seen 2 Swine Flu cases, one was a very obese older dude with asthma & the other was a very young child with mild symptoms that they think might have not even been that flu but the regular one...the obese guy recovered in a week despite his poor initial health status and breathing issues.
You are in Florida too right? Memorial West, Jackson Hospital, Cleveland Clinic or Mount Sinai?

I know at Memorial West Hospital you can't even walk into it with any type of flu symptoms and if you do, you have to wear a mask and carry around purell. Last time I was there was a few months ago, but i am sure they are still doing it...
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Spoke to a nurse who heads the intensive care unit at a BIG local hospital, she said they have seen 2 Swine Flu cases, one was a very obese older dude with asthma & the other was a very young child with mild symptoms that they think might have not even been that flu but the regular one...the obese guy recovered in a week despite his poor initial health status and breathing issues.
...and here we had a very active and healthy 14 year old girl die.

Go figure...
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Doctors offices are checking everyone here in PA, been doing it at last from a month ago when I seen my neurosurgeon.
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...and here we had a very active and healthy 14 year old girl die.

Go figure...

Are you referring to the 14 year old who had life long breathing/asthma complications who died with swine flu only being a "contributing factor?"

The Swine Flu Conspiracy
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I will need to get both shots as soon as I can, I see my neurosurgeon in nov, to setup my Cspine opration so I need the both.
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I will need to get both shots as soon as I can, I see my neurosurgeon in Nov, to setup my C spine operation so I need the both.
Good luck with your surgery. I will send out lots of love and light to you via meditation for it to be very successful.

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Negative, JMJ.

Nice of you to try to diminish the value of someone's life by attempting to intertwine some wacko conspiracy.

Real class act.
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i have one simple question. is this happening in other countries, or is the US government the only ones trying to make the vaccines mandatory?

Im asking because i really dont know. but i havnt heard anything on other countries
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Negative, JMJ.

Nice of you to try to diminish the value of someone's life by attempting to intertwine some wacko conspiracy.

Real class act.
Not diminishing a life I'm diminishing the propaganda. They keep saying so and so dies from the swine flu and make a big deal out of it being the swine flu only to find out a week latter that they had other complications. It's happened so many times now it's not even funny. There is a 14 year old that died (the only one I'm aware of) within the last week where it has just came out that she had life long issues. If anyone is diminishing their lives it's those using their deaths to sell their drugs and agenda.
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i have one simple question. is this happening in other countries, or is the US government the only ones trying to make the vaccines mandatory?

Im asking because i really dont know. but i havnt heard anything on other countries
I am not sure of the answer as well.

But lets make it clear that the US government IS NOT making vaccines mandatory.

Certain institutions are, however. They are using the its our policy to institute making getting the shot mandatory and get away with it. If a hospital requires all employees to get both seasonal flu and H1N1 and you refuse, then they can claim you violated their policy which is grounds for dismissal.

Again, the US government HAS NOT made this madatory as the title of this thread ad many statements would have you believe.
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i have one simple question. is this happening in other countries, or is the US government the only ones trying to make the vaccines mandatory?

Im asking because i really dont know. but i havnt heard anything on other countries


eg Greece: http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-S...56U3VV20090731
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