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    When Muslims kill Christians, Obama sweeps jihadist motives under the rug

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ll-christians/
    By THE WASHINGTON TIMES-, January 4,

    Radical Muslims detonated a car bomb outside a Coptic Christian church in Alexandria, Egypt, on Saturday, killing 21 and wounding many others. The White House condemned the attack as a "barbaric and heinous act" but - true to form - remained silent on the jihadist motives of its perpetrators.

    The car bombing marked an escalation in an ongoing siege against Egypt's oldest indigenous religious community, which previously had been subjected primarily to shootings and vandalism. The White House admitted the bombing targeted Christian worshippers, and if something similar took place in this country it would be called a hate crime, with the perpetrators and their reasons for conducting the attack precisely described. The Obama administration, however, is committed to the intellectually insupportable argument that the best way to combat jihadist terrorism is to ignore its Islamic content. It is the equivalent of telling police to solve crimes by looking into means and opportunity but ignoring motive.

    The White House further watered down the impact of the attack in Egypt by combining that condemnation with another denouncing a same-day terror attack on a military barracks in Abuja, Nigeria. The latter bombing was probably the work of a radical Muslim sect called Boko Haram ("forbidden Western knowledge"), also known as the Nigerian Taliban, but the president chose not to point any of that out, either. Also left unmentioned was the church that the jihadists burned that day in the city of Maiduguri, or the dozens that Boko Haram killed in a series of Christmas Eve bombings in central Nigeria.

    On Friday, the State Department condemned attacks by gunmen on Iraqi Christians and took the opportunity belatedly to mention the Oct. 31 bombing at the Our Lady of Salvation Catholic Church in Baghdad that killed 58. The bombing was credited to an al Qaeda affiliate organization, not that anyone would learn that from the State Department.

    The Obama administration's blinders to the motives behind these attacks are part of Mr. Obama's larger strategy of outreach to the world's Muslims, the belief being that discussing the radical Islamic ideology adhered to by jihadist terrorists only creates misunderstandings. This outreach effort has proved to be a dead end. Public approval of the United States in most Muslim-majority countries has reset to the extremely low level it was before Mr. Obama became president, and in some cases is even lower.

    By leaving some doubt as to the identity and motives of the attackers, the White House leaves room for the conspiratorial-minded to fill in the blanks with their own pet theories. In Egypt, there is already a widespread belief, disseminated by a variety of voices in the press, government, the religious establishment and outsiders like the Iranian regime, that the anti-Christian bombing was the work of the Israeli secret service. When the United States fails to take a position in situations like this, it's official silence can be read as tacit acceptance.

    In incidents of terrorism foreign and domestic - such as the Fort Hood massacre, underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad - the Islamist reasons for the attacks remain officially unstated. The White House, of course, knows the root cause of the threat; it simply refuses to admit it. Anti-Christian violence is swelling in Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria and Pakistan, among other places, but the White House dares not say why.

    Enthralled with visions of an ideal world of religious peace, the president cannot face the growing signs of religious war. Every day Mr. Obama ignores reality, the terrorists grow stronger.
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    Let them all kill each other, they are nothing but problems anyway and have been for 2,000 years. End religion all together, make it illegal. Then maybe just maybe, some peace on earth.

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    What they do to the Christians is just horrible.
    They already expelled or killed Jews, who lived in Babylon for 3,000 years.


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    It is not necessary to speak Moslems kill Christians! It is necessary to speak Gangsters and murderers! They kill as Christians, and Moslems! It is a policy and the big money!

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    At Gangsters and Murderers, aren't present religious and a national identity, such people criminals!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HasRob View Post
    Let them all kill each other, they are nothing but problems anyway and have been for 2,000 years. End religion all together, make it illegal. Then maybe just maybe, some peace on earth.
    Dont feel it is away from you

    you are second on the list of islamic jihadist enemies

    1.jews
    2.athesits and non believers
    3.christians

    for moderate muslims, christianity is the only accepted religion to live beside islam as per quran

    try to imagine they do that to the most accepted religion to them!

    what shall they do to you as non believer !
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    lol, come and get me!

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    Gee,

    Interesting post. One of the few political posts here on dnf that is carefully reasoned.

    By condemning the attack, IMO the Whitehouse is doing the right thing. You and I cannot know what is being done behind the scenes, after all. Secondly, too few governments even take a stand. Is it the case that every country in the middle east immediately condemns any car bombing? If the car bombing happens in Israel, does every muslim country immediately condemn it?

    Obama is trying to lead by example. He is setting the bar - not as high as you want, but higher than many do. Why dont you go after leaders who do not set the bar as high as Obama?

    And do not forget that Obama is Christian. He would have no personal reason to support anti-Christian violence.

    The money behind car bombings and suicide bombers is the key. Who is funding that, and why? Why dont the leaders of the middle east go after those who fund the violence? I have heard that if an 18 year old guy does a suicide bombing, his family is compensated with some money - is this true? Find them, by following the money! The road to peace is green.

    The truth is that no country or leader outside of the middle east is going to solve the problems there. Any outside attempts to help will just be used, by some, to further their own agenda. The middle east wont have peace until the leaders there all decide to unite, to act as a group to condemn any violence, and to work toward developing social mechanisms for living together.

    Kevin


    Quote Originally Posted by Gee View Post
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ll-christians/
    By THE WASHINGTON TIMES-, January 4,

    Radical Muslims detonated a car bomb outside a Coptic Christian church in Alexandria, Egypt, on Saturday, killing 21 and wounding many others. The White House condemned the attack as a "barbaric and heinous act" but - true to form - remained silent on the jihadist motives of its perpetrators.

    The car bombing marked an escalation in an ongoing siege against Egypt's oldest indigenous religious community, which previously had been subjected primarily to shootings and vandalism. The White House admitted the bombing targeted Christian worshippers, and if something similar took place in this country it would be called a hate crime, with the perpetrators and their reasons for conducting the attack precisely described. The Obama administration, however, is committed to the intellectually insupportable argument that the best way to combat jihadist terrorism is to ignore its Islamic content. It is the equivalent of telling police to solve crimes by looking into means and opportunity but ignoring motive.

    The White House further watered down the impact of the attack in Egypt by combining that condemnation with another denouncing a same-day terror attack on a military barracks in Abuja, Nigeria. The latter bombing was probably the work of a radical Muslim sect called Boko Haram ("forbidden Western knowledge"), also known as the Nigerian Taliban, but the president chose not to point any of that out, either. Also left unmentioned was the church that the jihadists burned that day in the city of Maiduguri, or the dozens that Boko Haram killed in a series of Christmas Eve bombings in central Nigeria.

    On Friday, the State Department condemned attacks by gunmen on Iraqi Christians and took the opportunity belatedly to mention the Oct. 31 bombing at the Our Lady of Salvation Catholic Church in Baghdad that killed 58. The bombing was credited to an al Qaeda affiliate organization, not that anyone would learn that from the State Department.

    The Obama administration's blinders to the motives behind these attacks are part of Mr. Obama's larger strategy of outreach to the world's Muslims, the belief being that discussing the radical Islamic ideology adhered to by jihadist terrorists only creates misunderstandings. This outreach effort has proved to be a dead end. Public approval of the United States in most Muslim-majority countries has reset to the extremely low level it was before Mr. Obama became president, and in some cases is even lower.

    By leaving some doubt as to the identity and motives of the attackers, the White House leaves room for the conspiratorial-minded to fill in the blanks with their own pet theories. In Egypt, there is already a widespread belief, disseminated by a variety of voices in the press, government, the religious establishment and outsiders like the Iranian regime, that the anti-Christian bombing was the work of the Israeli secret service. When the United States fails to take a position in situations like this, it's official silence can be read as tacit acceptance.

    In incidents of terrorism foreign and domestic - such as the Fort Hood massacre, underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab and Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad - the Islamist reasons for the attacks remain officially unstated. The White House, of course, knows the root cause of the threat; it simply refuses to admit it. Anti-Christian violence is swelling in Egypt, Iraq, Nigeria and Pakistan, among other places, but the White House dares not say why.

    Enthralled with visions of an ideal world of religious peace, the president cannot face the growing signs of religious war. Every day Mr. Obama ignores reality, the terrorists grow stronger.
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    You're wrong Greg, we all know Obama is the antichrist.
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    Yes who such OBAMA? All waited from him for results, and he couldn't to change that! The PUPPET! Here the Man!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dn-101 View Post


    Говно Расейское
    Who you such are to name this person so! YOU THAN better the SHIT?

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    ЧМО !

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    Dn-101---ты понял гусь? или нет?
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    Hope things are well Egypt Gee.

    As for the Washington Times you might want to know the owner is the legendary Reverend Sun Myung Moon:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washington_Times

    I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Moon and the Moonies nor his paper and his whacked out beliefs......


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    Quote Originally Posted by think View Post

    I'm not a huge fan of Mr. Moon and the Moonies nor his paper and his whacked out beliefs......
    One of the Airplane episodes had a great way of dealing with them in the airport...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoMuchMass View Post
    If religion didn't exist we would fight over land, or country, or race, or ethnicity, or height, or weight. We humans will always fight over something or the other, there will never be true peace ever.
    That unfortunately is probably true.

    Seems there are parallels between bullying and wars.

    -=DCG=-

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    Quote Originally Posted by dn-101 View Post


    Говно Расейское
    He he he...

    Name that tune!

    My boyfriend is in trouble again,
    He got into a fight and got stoned on something,
    I am sick of him and so I told him, 'get out of here',
    And now I want a man like Putin.
    A man like Putin, full of energy,
    A man like Putin who doesn't drink,
    A man like Putin who wouldn't hurt me,
    A man like Putin who wouldn't run away from me.
    I saw him in the news yesterday,
    He was saying the world was at the crossroads,
    It's easy with a man like him at home or out and about,
    And now I want a man like Putin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    One of the Airplane episodes had a great way of dealing with them in the airport...
    I looked for that clip but couldn't find it. Love the old Airplane movies with Leslie Neilsen, please forgive my spelling.

    I'm afraid many here might be too young to remember the moonies and flowers and airports and things


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