Why Is Google Ignoring Memorial Day?

[Raider]

Originally Posted by wrdekle

it is quite easy for President Bush to wage this war in Iraq. The American people have yet to ask him to put some skin in this game.

OK, What exactly do you expect our President to do?, do you want him or his family members to enlist in the service?

Look, I see the flag of the Phillipines and I get that you might have some kind of chip on your shoulder against the Japanese. Hey, that's understandable, I don't blame you, the Japanese did some horrendous things in the name of empire. Like attack countries unprovoked, kill and displace massive amounts of civilians, and torture enemy prisoners. Hmm, sounds like another country I know....

Lets elaborate about what your referring too, The Bataan Death March, anyone know what that is?, this is where 75000 civilians and POW's, Filipino and American, starving and stricken with Malaria were forced to walk for 30 miles for 3 days with NO FOOD, over 10K of them died, and YOU compare this to another country you know? and just what country is that? the USA??? And lets not forget about Camp O'Donnell and Cabanatuan, if you want a history lesson for those atrocities committed by the Japanese, let me know.

Nice thing America did, I pulled this from the net:

The "A Tribute To Courage" Memorial in Kissimmee, Florida

Depicts a scene from the Bataan Death March: two soldiers, one American and the other Filipino, are propping each other up while a Filipino woman is offering water to them. It symbolizes the unique friendship between the United States and the Philippines - the two countries fought together during World War II, and the heroism and comradeship between the Americans and Filipinos. It was sculpted by Sandra Storm and is made of bronze. A brick walkway encircles the monument and there are commemorative plaques depicting the history of the Bataan Death March and the Memorial. American and Filipino flags fly side by side. It is the only statue in the United States dedicated to the heroes and survivors of the fall of Bataan and Corregidor and the Bataan Death March

One of many memorials reduced by some ignorant sh*thead like "domain newbie" with pathetic statements like "who cares about these brainwashed ships" yeah, there just a bunch of killers that deserved to die right?

I doubt you and others think along these lines, it just really pisses me off to hear our fallen soldiers and civilians reduced to this. And like you, I don't blame the Japanese people either, I have no ill feelings toward them for the atrocities there leaders committed, heck I even own a Isuzu SUV, its the biggest piece of crap I ever owned, but I did choose it.

[wrdekle]

Originally Posted by Raider

OK, What exactly do you expect our President to do?, do you want him or his family members to enlist in the service?

It's very simple really. I think that President Bush should publicly ask his own eligible family members to consider enlisting. It's a free country, they can say, "no thanks" if they wish. The gesture is a very important symbol of the President's belief in and resolve to win this war. It shows basic support for the troops on this very important holiday.

Originally Posted by Raider

Lets elaborate about what your referring too, The Bataan Death March, anyone know what that is?, this is where 75000 civilians and POW's, Filipino and American, starving and stricken with Malaria were forced to walk for 30 miles for 3 days with NO FOOD, over 10K of them died, and YOU compare this to another country you know? and just what country is that? the USA??? And lets not forget about Camp O'Donnell and Cabanatuan, if you want a history lesson for those atrocities committed by the Japanese, let me know.

And like you, I don't blame the Japanese people either, I have no ill feelings toward them for the atrocities there leaders committed, heck I even own a Isuzu SUV, its the biggest piece of crap I ever owned, but I did choose it.

It's just a question of what we compare it to. The US invasion of Iraq has displaced close to a million people from their homes. Tens of thousands have died directly as a consequence of that dislocation. Over 200,000 (some say much more) Iraqi men, women, and children have been killed since the occupation began. We can try to pawn this off on insurgent violence within Iraq but if you ask, the finger pointing comes back to the US and its prosecution of the occupation. A human life is a human life - iraqi, american, filipino, japanese. I'm tired of the biased American media reporting the war as if American lives matter more than any one elses' and as if Iraqis don't have names and faces too.

Try buying a Toyota next time. You won't regret it.

[Doc Com]

Originally Posted by MobileDesigner

my 2 cents

Nicely stated.

[Sarcle]

Originally Posted by Raider

Lets elaborate about what your referring too, The Bataan Death March, anyone know what that is?, this is where 75000 civilians and POW's, Filipino and American, starving and stricken with Malaria were forced to walk for 30 miles for 3 days with NO FOOD, over 10K of them died, and YOU compare this to another country you know? and just what country is that? the USA??? And lets not forget about Camp O'Donnell and Cabanatuan, if you want a history lesson for those atrocities committed by the Japanese, let me know.

RG stop bringing up past shit. Seriously. Stop living in the past as if anyone here did any of these things or where a part of them. Live in the now, and stop using past wars as an excuse to validate the Iraq war.

Japan did some horrible shit, Germany did some horrible shit, China did some horrible shit, Russia did some horrible shit. Our ass (US) doesn't smell like roses either. In our process to become a nation we pretty much destroyed a civilization called the "Native Americans" You want to bring up past wars and atrocities like the Bataahn March? We have the "Trail of Tears" or the Indian removal act of 1830. Or before that it was just plain kill them we they stood. We are responsible for the senseless deaths of almost 2 million people that were just protecting the lands they were on LONG before Americans came. What does this have to do with today and the IRAQ WAR? Nothing. Just like everything you keep bringing up.

The Germans I know today aren't Nazi's. The Russians I know today aren't communists. The Japanese I know today aren't Kamikazes waiting to die for the empire. They are allowed to have a voice on what we do.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Sarcle

RG stop bringing up past shit.

First off, I can bring whatever I want to, who are you to tell me what I cant say? Second, I was responding to what wrdekle wrote, he brings up the horrible things the Japanese did to the Philippines and tries to compare it to what the USA is doing today, that's BULLSH*T! I did'nt bring it up, he did. I know how much you like reading my posts, why dont read what l was responding to?

What does this have to do with today and the IRAQ WAR? Nothing.

Your right, NOTHING!!! Read post 31....

Originally Posted by Raider

What does your rant have to do with Google observing Memorial Day?

Originally Posted by wrdekle

It's very simple really. I think that President Bush should publicly ask his own eligible family members to consider enlisting. It's a free country, they can say, "no thanks" if they wish. The gesture is a very important symbol of the President's belief in and resolve to win this war. It shows basic support for the troops on this very important holiday.

The only members would be his two daughters, if they said "NO" it would be a media frenzy, if they said "Yes" the news of Iraq would be overshadowed by the Bush girls every move, it would be another Prince Harry only on a much larger scale. I understand where you coming from though.

[D'same]

Originally Posted by Raider

OK, What exactly do you expect our President to do?, do you want him or his family members to enlist in the service?

Yes....wasn't the Prince of England prepared to go?......then they would know the realities of war....collateral damage would be bits of flesh, blood and body parts....to give them nightmares for years to come....real people, real families, real lives, not just statistics...

This way they would think twice about invading other people's country in a bid to impose their culture, ways and capitalistic models and let people solve their own problems their way.....

Google.com serves an international audience so it should not favour nationalistic holidays IMHO....if we had Google.US it would be ok...but not Google.com.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by D'same

This way they would think twice about invading other people's country.

Yes, but the war would of still happened, there are many War veterans including John McCain that support the war effort.

Originally Posted by D'same

Google.com serves an international audience so it should not favour nationalistic holidays IMHO....if we had Google.US it would be ok...but not Google.com.

This has already been addressed in this thread, do you not read before you post? Also, Google answered why there not observing the holiday and it wasn't for this weak reasoning.

[D'same]

Originally Posted by Raider

This has already been addressed in this thread, do you not read before you post? Also, Google answered why there not observing the holiday and it wasn't for this weak reasoning.

Just re-emphasizing for weak thinkers and blind followers....

cheers

[Raider]

Originally Posted by D'same

Just re-emphasizing for weak thinkers and blind followers....cheers

There will always be the lazy minded, who would rather post there ignorance than take the time to read.

[Sarcle]

Originally Posted by Raider

he brings up the horrible things the Japanese did to the Philippines and tries to compare it to what the USA is doing today, that's BULLSH*T! I did'nt bring it up, he did.

Actually, no he didn't. You brought up the horrible things the Japanese did to the Philippines to try to shut him up. And you are trying to compare it to America today. Yes, you did bring it up. All he asked for was for the Bush twins to serve the country.

The will always be the lazy minded, who would rather post there ignorance than take the time to read.

Yes, we should ask Bush I hear he's a big reader.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Sarcle

Actually, no he didn't. You brought up the horrible things the Japanese did to the Philippines to try to shut him up. And you are trying to compare it to America today.

Wrong!, This is what he wrote;

Originally Posted by wrdekle

I see the flag of the Phillipines and I get that you might have some kind of chip on your shoulder against the Japanese. Hey, that's understandable, I don't blame you, the Japanese did some horrendous things in the name of empire. Like attack countries unprovoked, kill and displace massive amounts of civilians, and torture enemy prisoners. Hmm, sounds like another country I know.

Who brought up the Philippines again? who conveniently left out the atrocities? and I think the country he's trying to compare these acts too is obvious.

All he asked for was for the Bush twins to serve the country.

And I asked why his leaders didn't! Emperor Hirohito had 2 two sons and five daughters, how many of them gave there blood? while there leader waged war against the US, Korea, Taiwan and Southeast Asia?, a valid question pointed to a Japanese resident who is passing judgement on our leaders.

[Sarcle]

Originally Posted by Raider

Who brought up the Philippines again? who conveniently left out the atrocities? and I think the country he's trying to compare these acts too is obvious.

Actually you brought up the wars first in post 42.

Originally Posted by Raider

Tell me, Did your Japanese leaders give there blood and serve in there wars? or were they too busy raping and looting innocent civilians? I think you need a history lesson on what your Japanese leaders did, the war crimes and atrocities they committed.

Asian Pacific wars / World war II
Nanjing Massacre
Russo-Japanese War
Japan Russia War

He was pointing out your bias after this post by bringing up the fact that your are from the Philippines.

No spin that's how it was.

a valid question pointed to a Japanese resident who is passing judgement on our leaders.

A Japanese resident that had nothing to do with, and probably wasn't even around during the time of this war. And considering our actions affect the world, he has a right to pass his judgment.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Sarcle

Actually you brought up the wars first in post 42. He was pointing out your bias after this post by bringing up the fact that your are from the Philippines.

I asked a simple question, Did his Japanese leaders give there blood to serve in those wars? YES or NO? I'm still waiting for the answer!

If your going to question our leaders, I have a right to question theres.

[Sarcle]

Originally Posted by Raider

I asked a simple question, Did his Japanese leaders give there blood to serve in those wars? YES or NO? I'm still waiting for the answer!

He gave you your answer you just keep deflecting the argument.

My understanding is that no one was exempt from service during the war years in Japan including military leaders and government officials.

You call my post LAME but you have no answer for your president. Your only retort is to point fingers and misdirect.

Originally Posted by Raider

If your going to question our leaders, I have a right to question theres.

"Their", as in Japan's leaders during these wars, the ones you keep referring to aren't "their" leaders anymore.

What you are saying is to me like saying a German has no say in the Iraq war because they are all a bunch of Nazis.

Let Bush go back to giving a back rub to Germany's Chancellor. We know where women leaders stand in his book.

[D'same]

Originally Posted by Raider

There will always be the lazy minded, who would rather post there ignorance than take the time to read.

Or spell....lol: maybe a typo....or grammatical error.... but then who is nitpicking...or displaying their ignorance.

[Fearless]

There there.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Sarcle

He gave you your answer you just keep deflecting the argument.

NO, he didn't. I'll ask the question again so EVERYBODY can understand it,

Emperor Hirohito had 2 two sons and five daughters, how many of them enlisted in the military? while there leader waged war against the US, Korea, Taiwan and Southeast Asia?.

During the American raids on Tokyo, his family was evacuated from the city, while Japanese civilians weren't as lucky, so much for giving there own blood for the same cause.

What you are saying is to me like saying a German has no say in the Iraq war because they are all a bunch of Nazis.

I never said he has "no say", your over reaching again [/QUOTE]

[Sarcle]

Originally Posted by Raider

Emperor Hirohito had 2 two sons and five daughters, how many of them enlisted in the military? while there leader waged war against the US, Korea, Taiwan and Southeast Asia?.

Well, considering his youngest child was born in 1939, and the reining emperor, a child of Hirohito, was born in 1933 would make his children a little young to be in the military at the time of those wars. And the girls well women didn't serve in the armed forces then, even American women. Certainly not the case today. But his brother and other family members were in the military. That's as much as I can find.

Clearly not the case for the Bush booze guzzlers as they are old enough to serve.

[D'same]

Well so much for RG's research and arguments....riddled with so much lack of sensible reasoning....she wants kids to be in the military now...all in defense of the indefensible...

[Raider]

Originally Posted by Sarcle

would make his children a little young to be in the military at the time of those wars.

The point is the emperor had 2 sons that never served and neither did his daughters who were of age.

Originally Posted by D'same

she wants kids to be in the military now

No, I don't want children to be in the Military, I don't even want child-like minded people like you to join the service, because it would likely lead to the deaths of others. I see that your a computer tutor, do you give your students books to read, or just shown them how to put there hand on the mouse?