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Barack Obama, Wind Power and Ted Kennedy
Barack Obama is the candidate of change. How do I know? Because he says so, right? Who would question anything that Barack says. While viewing a recent Obama speech, I saw “CHANGE” in large letters on the front of the podium as well as in three places positioned like the points of the fleur de lys on a screen behind him, presumably symbolic of the heir apparent to the presidency … simply waiting for the coronation.
Obama says he is going to make the United States energy independent by pursuing wind and solar energy. How is he going to do this and bring about change while hanging his star on the likes of Ted Kennedy who is the epitome of back room politics, special interests and, probably worst of all, unbridled self interest.
Ted Kennedy has been the one person who has blocked the development of a wind farm in Nantucket Sound … so he won’t have to view it from his Cape Cod home, reiterating that well worn environmentalist cliche, to preserve a pristine area in our country. If I hear one more politician, including John McCain use that phrase, I’m going to puke. Ted Kennedy wasn’t concerned about anything pristine or environmental or even sanitary when he order his boat crew to pump out the bilge of his sailboat in Nantucket Sound … just one more fat, fat cat politician who will do whatever he can get away with such as running his car into the marshes and destroying natural habitat, not to mention killing people.
Unfortunately, even brain surgery can’t apparently provide Senator Kennedy the epiphany that quite possibly function is beauty. What can be more pristine or beautiful than a wind farm, preferrably the first of many in the Cape Cod area, which can make this country less dependent on fossil fuels and foreign oil.
Wind will power our future
Energy experts are predicting that as much as 20% of the U.S. energy requirements can be met by wind power by 2030. Because of powerful individuals like Senator Kennedy I was careful to use the word, “can”, in the previous sentence.
Upon reviewing a wind resource map of the contiguous United States, it becomes very apparent that there are only three primary areas in the eastern United States that are most suitable for the most cost effective, efficient and reliable energy production. They include a very narrow stip of mountain ridges in New Hampshire and Maine, A very short strip of mountain ridges in the extreme western part of Northe Carolina in the Great Smoky Mountains … and the Cape Cod area. Of these, the Cape Cod area has the most reliable sustained winds with the greatest average wind speeds.
The following is a map of the continental United States showing average annual wind resource estimates. The blue areas have the highest estimates with the estimates increasing from light to dark.
Map 2-6 Annual average wind resource estimates in the contiguous United States
Wind resource estimates are rated on a scale from 1 to 7. With current technology it takes a sustained wind speed greater than 6 miles per hour for wind turbines to have enough speed to produce electricity. This wind speed has to be sustainable for the turbine to be cost effective and efficient. It, therefore, requires an area to have a wind resource estimate of 3 or greater for that area to be minimally efficient.
The following map of the Massachusetts area reveals that in the Nantucket Sound/ Cape Cod area the wind resource estimates range from 3 to 6 with the sound randing from 4 to 6 and the Cape Cod peninsula having a rating exclusively of 6.
3-21 Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island annual average wind power
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FOR DOC, WHO MADE A COMPLETE *SS OUT OF HIMSELF IN THIS THREAD;Originally Posted by Doc Com
By comparison, the Cape Hatteras area of North Carolina has ratings which range from 2 to 3 with the Outer Banks only meeting the absolute minimum requirements. This map also shows that the only area in North Carolina that truly meets the requirements for efficient and cost effective wind power production is in the Great Smoky Mountains section of the Appalachian Mountains on the North Carolina/ Tennessee border. This is the only area in the Southeast that actually exceeds minimum requirements.
3-30 North Carolina annual average wind power
The other section of the eastern United States is in the mountains in Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine with the coastal area of Maine having a rating of 4.
3-23 New Hampshire and Vermont annual average wind power
3-22 Maine annual average wind power
All of these areas are “pristine”. To reach the goal of having 20% of national energy requirements being met by wind energy by 2030, there are going to have to be some concessions made and a little adjustment in what people consider pristine.
People need to start seeing beauty in function. What could be more beautiful that a machine that produces electrical energy from the wind, reducing our country’s dependence on imported oil or reducing our need to burn fossil fuels to produce that same electricity?
One might ask, “Why not just put the wind farms in the less populated West and build power lines to bring the electricity back to the East? The West has many larger areas with adequate wind resources.”
Today, I heard that the electrical infrastructure of the United States is going to require trillions of dollars in new investment to upgrade it to handle future requirements. People need to consider where all of that electricity to power their electric cars is going to come from. Various power grids in this country are already interconnected to shift electricity through high voltage lines among the grids to handle changes in energy requirements among the various grids. Everyone should know the results when this function fails.
Each section of the country should be willing to shoulder its share of the responsibility of maximizing its capacity to utilize wind power rather than throwing that responsibility onto someone else’s shoulders. Senator Kennedy is a good example of what a person shouldn’t be like, selfish and hedonistic.
If Senator Kennedy were truly dedicated to the betterment of the nation and the interests of his constituency, he would introduce a bill in the Senate condemning all the property on Cape Cod under eminent domain and raze all the homes on that peninsula. The federal government could then lease the land to power companies to build wind farms on the peninsula with areas such as beaches set aside for public use and enjoyment not simply the playground of the idle rich. It’s easy enough for the government to condemn the property of the poor or less fortunate to provide land for a real estate developer to exploit the commercial value of property for the developer’s personal benefit in the name of eminent domain. Why shouldn’t the government do the same to rich people when it truly and actually does benefit the common good?
Can Barack Obama actually add some meat to his populist message rather than some vague hypothetical lip service? If Barack Obama were truly a candidate of change, he would make the above recommendation one of his highest priorities. It’s time for less empty rhetoric and some definitive action. It’s easy to talk a populist message about windfall profit taxes for oil companies which are perceived to be impersonal behemoths rather than the employers of tens of thousands of Americans and the property of millions of stock holders whether they be individual investors or have an interest in the oil companies through their pensions or retirement plans. How will the candidate of change handle the national interest in the face of a relatively few fat cat politicians who happen to be his political cronies and supporters? Obama definitely doesn’t need the added burden of lobbyists. He has enough millstones hanging around his neck in the form of political endorsements from the likes of Ted Kennedy and other political hacks.
Childish is your middle name.
Gerry "Childish" Azzwasher
Last edited by Raider; 09-28-2009 at 06:58 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Huh?
There are no offshore oil rigs on the coast between San Diego and LA. There are a couple of very small ones a couple of blocks inland. There is a nuclear power plant at San Onofre, is that what you mean?
There are some oil rigs off Santa Barbara, maybe that is what you meant?
What constitutes a troll on this forum?
hmmmm.... What does San Diego, LA, Texas & Oklahoma have to do with Nantucket?
Only DOC knows.. He's the only authority on ass wind here.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
oh real mature, REAL mature...hmmmm.... What does San Diego, LA, Texas & Oklahoma have to do with Nantucket?
Only DOC knows.. He's the only authority on ass wind here.
lol, lmao, so bad...
You mean the one off Interstate 5, where if you blink you'll miss it?
So Cal Ed San Onofre nuclear Unit 3 back full
LOS ANGELES, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Southern California Edison's 1,080-megawatt Unit 3 returned to full power after a four-day curtailment of output at San Onofre nuclear power station in California, the company said on Thursday.
The unit was limited to about 65 percent of capacity on Feb. 3 to repair a pump variable speed control system. So Cal Ed said the system was repaired without incident, allowing the unit to ramp back up to 100 percent production on Thursday.
The plant has two feedwater pumps, which pump water from the condenser back to the steam generators. One of the two feedwater pumps on the non-nuclear side of the plant was involved in the repairs.
The 2,150 MW San Onofre station is located in San Clemente about 60 miles (97 km) north of San Diego. There are two units at San Onofre, the 1,070 MW Unit 2 and the 1,080 MW Unit 3, which entered service in 1983 and 1984.
Unit 2 remained at 98 percent of its capacity during the curtailed output of Unit 3, according to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission.
One MW powers about 700 homes in California.
So Cal Ed, a subsidiary of Edison International, (EIX.N) operates the station for its owners, So Cal Ed (78.21 percent), Sempra Energy's (SRE.N) San Diego Gas & Electric subsidiary (20 percent), and the California city of Riverside (1.79 percent).
Edison International, of Rosemead, California, owns and operates about 14,000 MW of generating capacity, markets energy commodities in North America, and transmits and distributes electricity to about 4.6 million customers in central and Southern California. (Reporting by Bernie Woodall; Editing by David Gregorio)
http://www.reuters.com/article/compa...40736520080207
Thank you for quoting Zurc
Maybe we can return to the anti-Obama threads to find out, What do you say?
Last edited by Raider; 09-28-2009 at 07:18 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Off shore rigs in general. I saw numerous in LA and TX in the gulf. Was mentioning those as a reference when the talk of ugly power facilities came up.
As for the drive from LA to San Diego, I recall being amazed at the beautiful scenery and suddenly a pump or two here and there all along the road.
As for Santa Barbara, I would have to look at a map to get oriented to where that is located. We drove down from Seattle to LA.
The nuke plants...those I have seen here in NC, Ohio, and other points.
Jeez, Raider.
Are you that desperate?
Get a ****ing grip on life and yourself.
Last edited by Gerry; 09-28-2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
Not sure what you mean by desperate, I'm just posting what I want in relation to windmills and energy remember?. So why get so upset about it? Is it because some of my posts are soooo looooong? You did the same in my poll thread remember? so maybe that's not it, Is it because I went a wee bit off topic with Teddy boy? again you did the same in my poll thread, so perhaps that's not it either... I give up Doc, Whatever your problem is, I hope you can work it out or get the help you so desperately need.
In the meantime, Try not to look like such a whiner, I mean come on Doc, nobody here wants to see a grown 50+ year old man cry.
And over what? Obama?.... Jeez, There's a lot more to life than that socialist *sshole.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Oh yes, I forgot. You're the victim here. Boo hoo hoo.
Just posting what you wanted. Boo hoo hoo.
Doc is such a whiner...boo hoo hoo.
Poor eva...boo hoo hoo.
Poor little eva, just wanted to add to the conversation...boo hoo hoo.
Meant no harm at all with the interjections of Feinstine, Kennedy, loser environmentalists, and Liberals...boo hoo hoo.
All that is missing from making this a perfect Raider thread is the mention of Pelosi...boo hoo hoo.
You will get the best I have to offer you.
My complete and total and undivided ignoring of you.
That shall be your gift. I will ignore you.
Nothing can drive someone like you up a ****ing wall faster than to be ignored.
Buckle up. Your ride is leaving.
"Just a lot of embarrassment, embarrassed to be part of group of domainers who would do this to their fellow man.",
Condemnation of Mobee boys and investors by our precious Mother Theresa of Domaindom
You said almost the exact the same thing 1 year ago, I said it wouldn't last and it DIDN'T... Admit it Doc, you just cant help yourself, You HATE reading the TRUTH whenever it's a negative for Obama, That's your problem.
The only thing that drives me nuts on this Forum are pathetic *ssholes like Zurc and H2FC that inject my Family, Race and Gender in these discussions where it has no place, You wouldn't do that Doc because your a FAR better person than those two are.
If only you could be more objective in these discussions, I'm sure we would get along, Trying to cover up Obama's mistakes with Bush bashing hasn't worked for you at all, it's only made you look helpless. I know you ignored that poll thread hoping it wouldn't receive much attention, and when it did you attacked it with your usual bag of dirty tricks, And look at where it got you.
I know you put a lot of "hope" in Obama and now your disappointed by what you see, but that's NOT my fault Doc, I'm just the messenger, You cant blame me for Obama's sinking poll numbers, Obama did that to himself.
Anyway, You can ignore me all you want, I have no hard feelings toward you.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
Hey psycho lady... Do you see me wasting anymore time arguing with you? No right? So stop making up lies about me saying ANYTHING bad about your family, race or gender. You continue to spew out your lies in a very defamatory way, but I will not take kindly into it.
I don't like you, you are a lying, manipulative, hypocrite ~ no matter your race or gender. But I guess you can keep using these lies to try and gain pity from others, hopefully they are smarter than you think and see past all your bullshit.
Get a life already.
I'll bet if you could go back and erase all those hateful things you wrote, you'd do it in a heartbeat just to cover your *ss. Thank goodness I quoted everything you wrote. You had your chance to apologize like Cadillac880 suggested you do, but you chose not to, So live with the criticisms.
Please vote Republican in 2012, America can not sustain another 4 years
of Liberal policies that are fiscally and socially destroying the country..
I don't need to edit anything crazy lady. I am not you who goes back and deletes and edits all the ridiculous, moronic things you type before you were able to take the medication you very much need. And why would I apologize to you? Pfft... MANIPULATIVE, MISLEADING and PATHETIC... if you think your strategy is going to work forever, you really must think everyone is as dumb as you are.
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