Without "coherent" message Occupy goes Global

[Infoproliferati]

Funny how the media was quick to point out the absence of a "coherent" message in the occupy movement. But I suppose with occupy going global (London, Hong Kong, Italy) the incoherence claim may as well be put to rest. Now imagine the occupy contagion hitting mainland China. Or Russia. Or other parts of Africa. Wouldn't that be something?

Assuming Occupy grows more influential in 2012, as I'm confident it will, I dare any Republican presidential candidate to talk malice about this movement. I dare Wall Street to continue with its lay offs/hiring freeze and unwillingness to help those who are hurting financially. I dare the Tea Party to challenge Occupy.

I am hereby predicting a second Obama win; largely in part by Occupy. Obama's campaign machine knows how to harness the cry of crowds. In fact Obama is already doing that himself with the new jobs bill. The Republicans can shoot down the bill all they want. But they had better be mindful for the people are watching.

The seemingly undetected paradox of Occupy, whether domestic or global, is its conservative mindset. Unlike the Tea Party, it has a way better head on its shoulder's and it won't be seduced by a demagogue. But that's an argument for a different thread.

[Donald Aquilano]

The Tea Party has a"coherent" Message.....

1) Reduce the federal deficit/national debt.

2) Reduce taxes

3) Reduce government spending.

4) Respect for individual property rights.

5) Adherence to the U.S. Constitution as was interpreted by the founders.

You get the picture right???


Now lets address Occupy Wall Street....

1) They want social justice i.e. redistribution of wealth.(take from the haves give to the have-not's)

2) They blame Wall Street for the financial crisis( but fail to address the governments bigger role in it.)

You see their fix to the "problem" as they see it is more government in are lives. Government good/private sector bad.

[H2FC]

Here's my view of Occupy Wall Street....

#1 It's a rebellion against corporate greed which is out of control in this country.

#2 It's a rebellion against the rich lobbyist who have bought the majority votes of the Republican Party to the detriment of our country mainly because it supports the greedy rich at the expense of the poor and middle class.

These two main objections of the masses are what is providing the fuel for the Occupy Wall Street Protestors. I don't believe the protesting will ever stop until these objections are addressed and satisfied. Like the great majority of the proud American middle class who think for themselves, I support the protests 100%.

[whitebark]

The Tea Party has a"coherent" Message.....

1) Reduce the federal deficit/national debt.

2) Reduce taxes

3) Reduce government spending.

4) Respect for individual property rights.

5) Adherence to the U.S. Constitution as was interpreted by the founders.

You get the picture right???


Now lets address Occupy Wall Street....

1) They want social justice i.e. redistribution of wealth.(take from the haves give to the have-not's)

2) They blame Wall Street for the financial crisis( but fail to address the governments bigger role in it.)

You see their fix to the "problem" as they see it is more government in are lives. Government good/private sector bad.

I'd expect regurgitation of rightwing trollop from Raider...

You also contradict yourself like all the rightwing talking heads who espouse the same nonsense - you insinuate there is no message then go on to claim their message is wealth distribution and blaming Wall Street!

If you are going to attempt to slander educated people at least hone your slurs.

Think about it - somehow they don't have a message but the rightwing smear machine all claims to know exactly what they want. Funny how that works.

And why is there no 'one coherent message' - because unlike the Tea Party fanatics the progressive crowd doesn't need to be told what to think, what to say and what to do by some figurehead like Palin, Beck etc. Thinking and acting for yourself - if only the Tea Party rabble
could understand that message. Especially the thinking part.

[Infoproliferati]

Here's my view of Occupy Wall Street....

#1 It's a rebellion against corporate greed which is out of control in this country.

#2 It's a rebellion against the rich lobbyist who have bought the majority votes of the Republican Party to the detriment of our country mainly because it supports the greedy rich at the expense of the poor and middle class.

On point. And Occupy made that clear since day one.

[Raider]

Are you telling me that after weeks of protests and arrests that "occupy walls street" finally came up with a message? What is it?

With a message should comes a objective, what is the objective? What are the proposals?

The fact is, most if not all of these protesters are economic illiterates, You listen to some of the ideas floating around and it's laughable, like increasing the minimum wage to over $20 an hour, Brilliant idea!.. We can go from a 9.2% unemployment rate to a 49.2% or higher unemployment rate.

A lot of this is fueled by the disparity of wages in America and they have a right to be angry, people are out of work and their losing their homes while corporate execs are receiving $1-$100 Million dollar bonuses, but if were going to angry about that, shouldn't we also get angry when we hear Peyton Manning signed a 5 year $90 million contract? OR Charlie Sheen earned 1$47 Million in one year? Or when Oprah Winfrey earned $260 Million dollars in one year? Where is the anger of disparity from them? are they not greedy too?

Because these are banks and banks control most of the MONEY, their the target.

And where the **ck was the outrage when people like Franklin Raines of Fannie Mae raked in $90 million in bonuses? the fraud and corruption from Fannie and Freddie is what led to the housing collapse and began the downward economic spiral.. And what about the TRILLIONS of dollars Obama funneled into the public sector and unions, where is the outrage from that where practically NONE of it benefited the private sector?

What these idiots should be doing is occupying Pennsylvania avenue and not Wall Street, that's where the core of the problem is.

I'd expect regurgitation of rightwing trollop from Raider...

I'll be sure to mention your name in threads that your not subscribed to also OK?

Don't you something better to do like flipping your crappy .CA's for $10 a pop?.

Bottom feeder

[ilovedomains]

At least Occupy wall Street doesnt get its crowds by sending busses to resthomes and telling old folks their going on a picnic.

[Gerry]

Unfortunately, some of these "occupy" movements are an excuse to riot and loot (ie, Rome) and no real focus or coherent on the global monetary control of wealth and spending.

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Here's my view of Occupy Wall Street....

#1 It's a rebellion against corporate greed which is out of control in this country.

#2 It's a rebellion against the rich lobbyist who have bought the majority votes of the Republican Party to the detriment of our country mainly because it supports the greedy rich at the expense of the poor and middle class.

...not to mention the 100% return on investment dollars that the gov. gave to those that were essentially 100% responsible for the total collapse of the financial worth of this country.

[whitebark]

I'll be sure to mention your name in threads that your not subscribed to also OK?

Raider I drop more intelligence into my toilet every day than you possess between your ears (which is odd considering they are made up of the same base ingredient) and calling you out is apt considering your pathetically feeble attempt at smearing the protests in your last thread.

[Raider]

Raider I drop more intelligence into my toilet every day than you possess between your ears (which is odd considering they are made up of the same base ingredient) and calling you out is apt considering your pathetically feeble attempt at smearing the protests in your last thread.

I didn't know a monkey knew his way to the toilet, nice to see the Canadian Zoo installed a toilet in your cage, great place to dump all you CA CA domains, pardon the pund... Now let me understand this Whitebarf, you didn't like what I posted in another thread so you come into another thread I'm not part of and throw out insults? what a dickhead, you should consider wearing a condom on your head, if you're gonna act like a dick you might as well dress like one, right?.

And what's this about smearing the protesters? their smearing themselves every single day with every word of economic ignorance that flows out their mouths, The majority of these protestors are idiotic simpletons who don't see the ramifications of taking money from corporations who contribute to our economy and giving it to those who DON'T... With every question that's asked of them they appear even more stupid and uneducated.. Someone should put together a compilation video of some of the idiotic statements coming from these crowds, it would be absolutely hilarious!

And I like how some of them are protesting about the starving people in this country, quite admirable but they seem to ignore the FACT that the city of New York alone has spent nearly $3 MILLION dollars policing their stupid asses, that's a lot of money that could of been better spent feeding the needy and the starving in the city, don't you think? I guess marching on a incoherent message is far more important.


And then you have the propaganda;



Looks like a 3rd grader wrote this, NO jobs in her field and yet she chose to major in that field, and because theirs NO jobs in that field "Wall Street" is to blame? LMAO!

I wouldn't think about selling drugs dear, way too much competition out there on Occupy Wall Street.

[Mike Cruz]

People really should learn to marry into money and inherit valuable assets so they don't have to worry about this "jobs issue thing"... /sarcasm

Some people are just stupid hypocritical...

I am not a big fan of people who cry about being broke or claim they cant find jobs, but if anyone thinks that this is the only reason the "Occupy Wallstreet" movement exists, they are a ****ing retard. It's much bigger than just jobs, much bigger than just wall street, those are just the beginning...

[ilovedomains]

Award winning film maker and American hero Micheal Moore making new movie about Occupy Wall Street...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1018036.html

[DomainsInc]

Are you telling me that after weeks of protests and arrests that "occupy walls street" finally came up with a message? What is it?

With a message should comes a objective, what is the objective? What are the proposals?

The fact is, most if not all of these protesters are economic illiterates, You listen to some of the ideas floating around and it's laughable, like increasing the minimum wage to over $20 an hour, Brilliant idea!.. We can go from a 9.2% unemployment rate to a 49.2% or higher unemployment rate.

A lot of this is fueled by the disparity of wages in America and they have a right to be angry, people are out of work and their losing their homes while corporate execs are receiving $1-$100 Million dollar bonuses, but if were going to angry about that, shouldn't we also get angry when we hear Peyton Manning signed a 5 year $90 million contract? OR Charlie Sheen earned 1$47 Million in one year? Or when Oprah Winfrey earned $260 Million dollars in one year? Where is the anger of disparity from them? are they not greedy too?

Because these are banks and banks control most of the MONEY, their the target.

And where the **ck was the outrage when people like Franklin Raines of Fannie Mae raked in $90 million in bonuses? the fraud and corruption from Fannie and Freddie is what led to the housing collapse and began the downward economic spiral.. And what about the TRILLIONS of dollars Obama funneled into the public sector and unions, where is the outrage from that where practically NONE of it benefited the private sector?

What these idiots should be doing is occupying Pennsylvania avenue and not Wall Street, that's where the core of the problem is.




I'll be sure to mention your name in threads that your not subscribed to also OK?

Don't you something better to do like flipping your crappy .CA's for $10 a pop?.

Bottom feeder

Comparing celebs to bankers and ceo's? Hmm. Last time i checked Oprah didn't need a bailout with taxpayer money. Sheen didn't buy rocks with additional fees he imposed on the public for his services (while already racking in record profits) etc. I think a lot of people in the occupy movement are pissed at washington as they have become second in command to the wants and needs of corporate america. Obama has been a let down and it just further proves that it doesn't matter, democrat or republican, they are all just there to serve big business first and joe citizen last. Lets take the power back..if we can, if its not too late already.

[Donald Aquilano]

Award winning film maker and American hero Micheal Moore making new movie about Occupy Wall Street...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1018036.html

Micheal Moore is an american hero??? I have to say you're the first person I have ever heard say such a thing. Please elaborate.

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I hope that Occupy Wallstreet continues. Its like liberalism dying before are very eyes. Between the curbside sex and public defecation, they finally list their demands. Brace yourself people!!!

1) Living wage of $20/hr(whether they work for it or not.)

2) Forgive all student loan debt.

3) Free single-payer socialized health care

4) Free college education

5) Open borders

6) Trillions more spent on infrastructure and the environment.

[Raider]

I am not a big fan of people who cry about being broke or claim they cant find jobs, but if anyone thinks that this is the only reason the "Occupy Wallstreet" movement exists, they are a ****ing retard.

For once I'm going to have to agree with you, which is very rare.. Theirs certainly not one reason or two reasons or ten reasons, theirs hundreds of reasons, most of which having NOTHING to do with Wall Street at all, You didn't get that when the OP posted the words; "Without "coherent" message?..lol

Like I said before the anger and energy from these idiots is misdirected, If these people had any brains (which they don't) they would be protesting outside the White House and the Capital building in D.C, their the ones who got us into this mess, Everyone from Barney Frank to Chris Dodd to Bill Clinton who pushed banks to make risky loans people couldn't afford... The only valid gripe these people have is the TARP bailouts, which should of never happened under the previous administration OR the Obama administration, and appointing a wall street whore like Timothy Geithner as Treasury Secretary and taking MILLIONS is cash from Wall Street says A LOT about who's side Mr. Obama is really on.


Many sites and news organizations have posted a list of demands by OWS, Here's what the economic illiterates want;



A Liberal Laundry List of Lunacy
By Bob Ellis on October 5th, 2011


MRC TV has an enlightening video and post about the demands of the idiots who are trying to occupy Wall Street.

If we would just throw in the garbage can and burn the U.S. Constitution along with any remembrance of the values articulated in the Declaration of Independence, then throw out all common sense, we could give them everything they want.

A “living wage” (accomplished by protectionism and raising the minimum wage to $20 an hour–ignoring the fact that raising the minimum wage to $20 an hour would give new meaning to the term “skyrocketing inflation,” thus completely wiping out any benefit of this wage raise

Universal single payer health care system (while banning private insurance); exactly who is to pay for this is left unspecified

Guaranteed living wage regardless of employment (meaning if you want to sit on your dead rear end and pick your nose while eating Twinkies all day, you should still get your “living wage”)

Free college education; again, who will pay for this is left unspecified

Fast track the end of the fossil fuel industry while magically transforming “alternative energy” into something more than nothing but a useless vehicle to rip off taxpayers

One trillion dollars in infrastructure; yet again, who will pay for this is left unspecified

One trillion dollars to “restore” forests, wetlands, blah blah blah (we still don’t know who will pay for all this if everyone is sitting at home picking their nose while eating Twinkies)

Racial and gender equal rights amendment (because currently black people are still enslaved, segregated and discriminated against at every turn, and homosexual transvestite scatophiles aren’t allowed to be daycare workers or church secretaries)

Open borders, so that al-Qaeda can attack us at will and people from other countries can come here to work, er, eat Twinkies while collecting a paycheck and send that paycheck home to their home country

Bring the American election system up to the level of enlightened countries like Cuba, Iran and North Korea

Immediate debt forgiveness across the board (presumably unless someone owes them something…like the aforementioned “living wage” and “universal single payer health care–then they’d better pay up, Chester!

Outlaw all credit rating agencies…so people can borrow as much money as they want without ever having to repay it; who will pay for this financial hemorrhage is, again, left unspecified

Is it just me, or do you get the impression this list of demands was put together by a pack of spoiled, bratty six year olds?

If I could ignore the massive, wide-scale human suffering that would quickly result from such insanity (yes, the suffering would be so monumental that all the fun of saying “I told you so” would evaporate), I’d say let’s give these Marxist idiots some unused corner of the world, put them all there, and let them create a country that runs the way they want it to.

The human suffering aside, it would be hilarious to watch these morons fall flat on their face and get the supreme bloody nose from a face-full of reality.

But they darn-sure aren’t going to do that with my country. America is far too precious, and our freedoms and prosperity too hard-won to allow any of this nonsense here.

http://www.dakotavoice.com/2011/10/a...list-of-lunacy]

Micheal Moore is an american hero??? I have to say you're the first person I have ever heard say such a thing. Please elaborate.

A capitalist making a movie that mocks capitalism, capitalizing off the backs of people who don't have a pot to piss in, literally... "Hero" or "Whore"? you make the call.

[silentg]

Alan Grayson Explains Occupy Wall Street To The 1 Percent

Wall Street protesters found their spokes person > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcjeUFodYfQ

[ilovedomains]

Just watch the movie being made by legendary film maker Michael Moore Raider. He will explain how the Occupy Wall Street movement will save America with Canadian style socialism. Did you know the movement started in Canada? Makes me so proud.

[Raider]

Comparing celebs to bankers and ceo's? Last time i checked Oprah didn't need a bailout with taxpayer money.

Your smart enough to know it was the disparity of incomes in which I made that comparison. It's not just the banks their pissed at, it's corporate America in general.

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Alan Grayson Explains Occupy Wall Street To The 1 Percent

Wall Street protesters found their spokes person > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcjeUFodYfQ

Is this the same Alan Grayson who edited a video that made his campaign opponent say something that he really didn't?

What better spokesperson to have for OWS than a manipulator of the truth.

[ilovedomains]

Alan Grayson Explains Occupy Wall Street To The 1 Percent

Wall Street protesters found their spokes person > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcjeUFodYfQ

Heres how bankers explain capitalism to teabaggers...

A banker, a tea party member, and a union worker are all sitting at a table when a plate with a dozen cookies arrives. Before anyone else can make a move, the banker reaches out to rake in eleven of the cookies. When the other two look at him in surprise, the banker locks eyes with the tea party member. “Dont trust those unions,” the executive says. “They only want a piece of your cookie.”

[Mike Cruz]

Alan Grayson Explains Occupy Wall Street To The 1 Percent

Wall Street protesters found their spokes person > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcjeUFodYfQ

That was a great episode.

As for Michael Moore being an American hero, come on now guys, that's going really far. That's like the left saying Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh were American heroes.

Michael Moore is good at what he does and it just so happens that we agree with a lot that he has to say and MAYBE he is a little more honest and direct than the left equivalents, but he is definitely no American hero.

Now to others who claim he hates capitalism, that's just a poor execution of trying to prove your fact less and illiterate understanding of the truth about Occupy Wallstreet just because Michael Moore got involved and because your beloved Tea Party is no where to be found because people are realizing THEY are the ones that did not have a "coherent" message.