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    Exclamation Are you ready for download tax?

    iPodTax
    PornTax
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    SinTax.

    Morning Edition, February 16, 2009 · In an effort to curb New York's nearly $15 billion budget deficit, Gov. David Paterson is suggesting a tax on Internet downloads. His so-called "iPod tax" would levy a 4 percent fee on all music and video downloads — including pornography. Supporters say they're merely bringing the tax code into line with shifting technologies. But not everyone is on board with the idea of profiting off porn. The chairman of New York's Conservative Party says that taxing it legitimizes it.

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    That's only for downloads that you pay for.
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    Let's levy a tax on nonsense and we turn a budget surplus in one day
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    Obviously another ignorant politician, he probably thinks the word 'iPod' covers all media on the internet, even though it's just the brand of some mp3 player.

    This would only effect NY State citizens, correct?

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    After recently reading that Obama's Transportation Secretary wants to TAX every American by the miles they drive, I thought for sure these were Obama's proposals.

    Not surprising coming from a Dem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thevirtual View Post
    Obviously another ignorant politician, he probably thinks the word 'iPod' covers all media on the internet, even though it's just the brand of some mp3 player.

    This would only effect NY State citizens, correct?
    For the interim, yes.

    As the piece pointed out, the main thing they want to tax are downloadable porn and music.

    However, this would only apply to those sites that are based in NY.

    They would then simply pick up and move out of state.

    This is just one of several attempts to tax the internet.

    I had previously pointed out a few the past couple of days in my alarmist posts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    I had previously pointed out a few the past couple of days in my alarmist posts.
    Yeah, how could we of missed those?


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    Comcast cable tried doing something like this, but they were going to charge a overage fee on bandwidth usage... Not sure if this has been implemented.

    http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/C...age-Fees-94185


    Quote Originally Posted by thevirtual View Post
    alarmist.me is available.
    So is AlarmistHop.com
    Last edited by Raider; 02-22-2009 at 04:35 PM.


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    Isn't there a federal moratorium on internet taxes (except state sales tax, under certain conditions).

    Arrogant New York politicians seem determined to attempt to regulate the world wide web.
    By what law are they given this authority that they seem to think they have?
    Last edited by Area52; 02-22-2009 at 05:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area52 View Post
    Isn't there a federal moratorium on internet taxes (except state sales tax, under certain conditions).

    Arrogant New York politicians seem determined to attempt to regulate the world wide web.
    By what law are they given this authority that they seem to think they have?
    Apparently the state statutes must allow them.

    If a business (even some of our astute domainers here) operates in New York state, those businesses (domainers) are probably supposed to collect state sales tax.

    Now here's the ironical part...

    All the words being typed, spoken and the time spent on reading these threads can be put to use by contacting state lawmakers and voicing your concerns.

    I have posted three threads that weekend that lame brain people have proclaimed alarmist posts.

    Fact is, what are they going to do about the contents?

    ***** and moan and cry.

    All that time spent could have been spent banging out a letter to the lawmakers and those who can do something about it.

    *****ing and complaining on a forum about me posting this and posting that does nothing to solve the problem.

    The issue is the contents.

    There are laws being proposed and presented that put each person involved with domains in a virtual choke hold.

    Me? I am concerned because I do run and maintain some very successful and significant sites.

    All these proposals affect not just domainers but web masters and the consumer.

    And don't forget that each of us is a consumer.

    The internet, pot, and moonshine are the last frontiers that are not taxed.

    One is legal, one will become legal, the other never will be.

    The reason moonshine is illegal is because it is untaxed liquor.

    Taxing internet usage per person, per download, per event is a gold mine to get a new source of funding for state projects and filling up the coffers of the treasury.

    So contact your representative, take note of the links posted, and bang off a letter to someone that can make a difference.

    I already have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Area52 View Post
    Isn't there a federal moratorium on internet taxes
    Yes, one that can be easily and swiftly reversed.
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    What will our fearless politicians tax next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrogance View Post
    What will our fearless politicians tax next?
    With Democrats in full control of both houses and our rubber stamp sitting in the oval office, it will only get worse.

    Have you heard the phrase "Tax and spend Liberals" , That's what were stuck with at least in the next 2 years.

    I think BD77's signature is very fitting here;

    "The government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."-Ronald Reagan
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    All that time spent could have been spent banging out a letter to the lawmakers and those who can do something about it.

    *****ing and complaining on a forum about me posting this and posting that does nothing to solve the problem.
    Who made countless posts in the Marijuana thread INSTEAD of helping people on the other forum who were addicted to Marijuana? This is just another example what a hypocrite you are... Sad really.
    Last edited by Raider; 02-22-2009 at 07:58 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost


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    Proposal: Can we not talk about politics on a domain forum like this? Is this going to turn into another Digital Point with their politics section?

    I mean if it affects domaining and Internet or e-commerce, fine...but marijuana and crap? Come on. >_<

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    The original topic is politically related... Get over it.


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    It wont effect me, but im sure if it goes ahead and is successful, it will only go to other places, then I can see our internet monitored even more, and further penalties being pushed for illegal downloading so they can get yet more money off us.

    I laughed at the idea a while ago of rumours the govt were considering a system of charging 1cent per email being sent to cut down on spam mail, years later it wouldnt suprise me one bit if this type of system come in

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrDude View Post
    It wont effect me, but im sure if it goes ahead and is successful, it will only go to other places, then I can see our internet monitored even more, and further penalties being pushed for illegal downloading so they can get yet more money off us.

    I laughed at the idea a while ago of rumours the govt were considering a system of charging 1cent per email being sent to cut down on spam mail, years later it wouldnt suprise me one bit if this type of system come in
    I agree.

    Even the absurd will get a second look.

    And yes, I agree.

    It starts somewhere and soon becomes the norm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Com View Post
    Apparently the state statutes must allow them.

    If a business (even some of our astute domainers here) operates in New York state, those businesses (domainers) are probably supposed to collect state sales tax.

    Now here's the ironical part...

    All the words being typed, spoken and the time spent on reading these threads can be put to use by contacting state lawmakers and voicing your concerns.

    I have posted three threads that weekend that lame brain people have proclaimed alarmist posts.

    Fact is, what are they going to do about the contents?

    ***** and moan and cry.

    All that time spent could have been spent banging out a letter to the lawmakers and those who can do something about it.

    *****ing and complaining on a forum about me posting this and posting that does nothing to solve the problem.

    The issue is the contents.

    There are laws being proposed and presented that put each person involved with domains in a virtual choke hold.

    Me? I am concerned because I do run and maintain some very successful and significant sites.

    All these proposals affect not just domainers but web masters and the consumer.

    And don't forget that each of us is a consumer.

    The internet, pot, and moonshine are the last frontiers that are not taxed.

    One is legal, one will become legal, the other never will be.

    The reason moonshine is illegal is because it is untaxed liquor.

    Taxing internet usage per person, per download, per event is a gold mine to get a new source of funding for state projects and filling up the coffers of the treasury.

    So contact your representative, take note of the links posted, and bang off a letter to someone that can make a difference.

    I already have.

    Yes, one that can be easily and swiftly reversed.
    I share your concern. The intent of my first reply was to ask questions about the subject of the thread so as to possibly inspire others to do just that, question what these people are doing, whether they have the authority to do it and what are the ramifications if such a law was enacted. Congress holds the real power. "Contact your Congressman" should be a sticky post here. But, to be honest after these folks passed the big spending bill and on top of that, without reading it (completely irresponsible if true), I don't have much faith in the present Congress doing anything except business as usual unless the citizens march on DC. That seems to work.

    Like it or not "everyone" is going to have an additional tax burden in coming years. We are going to see alot more of this nonsense.

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    lol...its entertaining to see Raider trying to start yet another fight with Doc Com in this thread.

    You may as well give up Raider......its pretty obvious he has you on his "ignore" list.....either that or he has decided you're not worth the effort.....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Area52 View Post
    I share your concern. The intent of my first reply was to ask questions about the subject of the thread so as to possibly inspire others to do just that, question what these people are doing, whether they have the authority to do it and what are the ramifications if such a law was enacted. Congress holds the real power. "Contact your Congressman" should be a sticky post here. But, to be honest after these folks passed the big spending bill and on top of that, without reading it (completely irresponsible if true), I don't have much faith in the present Congress doing anything except business as usual unless the citizens march on DC. That seems to work.

    Like it or not "everyone" is going to have an additional tax burden in coming years. We are going to see alot more of this nonsense.
    Never called your integrity into question.

    Many times I use the word you not to infer you, Area 52, per se.

    It is just a whole lot easier that typing a person.

    As far as a political party or partisan thing:

    It is not at all unreasonable to put everything on the table and to consider every thing as a form of taxation under the current circumstances.

    The real anger I have is how this crisis came about and how those that could have and should have done something to thwart it did not.

    I can not think and believe it was conspired to proceed as some sort of plan all the time knowing that we (the taxpayer) would bail out all of these institutions.

    Never in the history of mankind has such massive amounts of money been awarded to benefit so few. And those few still remain at the helms of their companies.

    I am not one to buy into any conspiracies but I'll be damned if I don't smell one here.

    From the banker to Paulson to his chief.

    This all seems like it was permitted to happen.

    And warning signs?

    Simply put - ignored.

    Quote Originally Posted by H2FC View Post
    either that or he has decided you're not worth the effort.....lol
    bingo.

    She is not worth the effort.

    She is running around this forum acting like some crazed POS stalker.

    Raider, you and bd77 must be enjoying your little tag team effort.

    To me, you both are insignificant insects and pests.

    Just another pimple on the ass of society waiting to be squeezed.
    Last edited by Gerry; 02-23-2009 at 11:54 AM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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