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| Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Mike C. Last Online: Yesterday 10:45 PM iTrader: (13) Join Date: Jul 2007
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Sorry I didn't quote my sources as I have started threads here pertaining to these groups. Please feel free to refute these sources since you claim I am making things up. But hey, I use to believe that many of these groups were legitimate so I understand your anger if this is all news to you. Here are your "grassroots groups" supporting the ANTI health care demonstrations: 1.The Lewin Group. The Lewin Group is a subsidiary of United Health. United Health is one of the largest insurance companies in America. Two entries from Wikipedia show United Health's ties and troubles: Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CbEt...om=PL&index=12 2. Conservatives for Patients Rights Conservatives For Patients Rights is the product of Rick Scott. Rick Scott, a lawyer and an investor with George W Bush in the Texas Rangers, went on to purchase many hospitals as CEO of Columbia/HCA industries. He was forced to resign and the company was fined the largest amount in US History: Quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L2dukgFqhY Other sources for Rick Scott and his involvement with Columbia / HCA: http://www.modernhealthcare.com/arti.../SUB/303099993 http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/09/news...tune/index.htm http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/us...s/02scott.html Here is the actual case. Rick Scott is not mentioned by name but it's clear as day the company paid $1.7 billion in fines and penalties: http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2003/June/03_civ_386.htm 3. Americans For Prosperity Americans for Prosperity is back by Koch Industries: Quote:
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Need another source? How about AFP themselves?: Quote:
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This isn't the only reason Dick Armey had to leave DLA Piper. Rachel Maddow was the news person to bring to light that Armey used Freedom Works to do the bidding of his clients at DLA Piper. This is the investigative reporting that found Dick Armey crossing the line to abuse his non profit group and forced him to resign. (9 1/2 minutes but if you want to learn what these groups did and do it is well worth it): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JvSS4RY-Xw There you have the grass roots organizers for the Tea Party Protests. Tadah!
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| DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Today 09:50 AM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003
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Country: | Actually the initial grassroots efforts were small groups with no real "organizers" I was one of them in my town. We started protesting the local Federal Reserve long before Freedom Works came along. Freedom Works is co-opting along with FOX.
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Many fans of Ron Paul are involved and they truly represent the grass roots kind of groups involved. I don't agree with Ron Paul on much including health care reform but I respect his honesty and integrity. In some areas like the Iraq war, civil liberties, and auditing the Fed I am in firm agreement with Ron Paul. The corporations have hijacked this movement through these front groups with it's sole intent is to kill any health care reform. I am sorry your cause has been hijacked.
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| DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Today 09:50 AM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003
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Country: | They are going to get exactly what they wanted as well. Baucus' plan looks to the the front runner and it's nothing but a pure give away to the insurance companies and pharma co's. Forcing or fining the population into corporate profits.
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| DNF Addict Name: John J. Last Online: Today 09:50 AM iTrader: (74) Join Date: Feb 2003
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meanwhile Supreme Court appears poised to allow corporate contributions http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/n...,2613959.story
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| The Evil Mod Name: Ed Last Online: Today 10:14 AM iTrader: (36) Join Date: Dec 2007
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heh yea like i said, dont particularly care for most of MSNBC's programming either.. and Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow sort of seem like the other side of extreme... i have noticed their guests on MSNBC tend to agree with them much more... at least on Fox they argue sometimes. but most cable news broadcasts suck ass.. there is the internet now and no need to rely on these traditional media forms really... i just watch them for entertainment/background noise. i like Shepard Smith's show on fox though.. he is one of the rare few that just reads the news without too much commentary.. and when he does make comments i find them pretty clever...
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| Exclusive Lifetime Member Name: Paul Last Online: 10-23-2009 01:00 PM iTrader: (58) Join Date: Dec 2007
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Your video is liberal propaganda. Probabaly a twenty something trying to get some points for a college video editing course. I could do the same with a documentary about the top people in the democratic party. Just pick and choose what footage to use to portray those people in the worst possble light, just as that person in your video did. On top of that I could probably produce it with very little editing. LOL. No decent person with common sense is going to be fooled by that kind of gimmickry. Quote:
But since somebody turned it into a 9-12 rally thread (or was that a Beck thread), here goes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9plu...eature=related Last edited by Area52; 09-17-2009 at 11:57 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | ||
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Those are some dangerous (in the form of trustworthiness and believability) and corrupt groups and people you mention. Last edited by Doc Com; 09-18-2009 at 12:48 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost | |
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