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06-23-2006, 12:12 AM
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DNF$: 1,375 Location: Kobe, Japan
Country: | AOL eyes on KOL.COM I got the following message from the AOL lawyer the other day.
Your opinions are welcome.
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As you know, this firm represents AOL LLC (“AOL”) in intellectual property matters. My client has objected to your unauthorized use of the infringing domain name “KOL.COM.” Your actions infringe upon AOL’s rights to its famous name and mark, and have caused actual confusion.
Because you have refused to settle this matter amicably and on reasonable terms, and you continue to use this domain name, we hereby notify you that we intend to proceed by filing an in rem lawsuit in the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia pursuant to Section 43(d)(2)(A) of the Lanham Act, 15 USC 1125.
Sincerely,
Jim Davis
James R. Davis, II
Arent Fox PLLC
1050 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20036
Phone: 202-857-6169
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06-23-2006, 12:19 AM
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Name: JG Last Online: 02-27-2008 02:12 PM Join Date: Feb 2006
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Am I missing something here? They're claiming KOL.com is infringing on AOL? I checked KOL.com and nothing came up so I can't see what you're using it for. But if it's simply a three-letter dot com which sounds like AOL, I cannot imagine on what grounds they could sue. Sorry. I don't get it. So, they're suing everybody with three-letter dot coms that end in O and L? |
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06-23-2006, 12:23 AM
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Name: Daniel Last Online: 08-26-2008 01:16 PM Join Date: Feb 2003
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM wow...
This will be a landmark case...I don't see how AOL can possibly win it.
Good luck...this is reverse hijacking at its worst.
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06-23-2006, 12:27 AM
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Name: Lee something or other.. Last Online: 10-09-2006 02:31 AM Join Date: Aug 2004
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DNF$: 290 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM I concure with GTWeb, this is crap.. pure and simple.
If you truly get sued for this, please post and let this community know. I will be the first in line to make a donation to your legal defense fund and to post links on my sites pointing out the fascist actions of AOL.
Since when does AOL stand for "Achtung! online" ??? |
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06-23-2006, 12:28 AM
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Last Online: 07-24-2008 09:04 PM Join Date: Dec 2004
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DNF$: 2,787 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM As if AOL has not had enough bad press lately over "refusing" to cancel accounts.
This is just BS! It's like they think that if they bully there way around, they can get whatever they want.
Link to some funny audio: http://media.putfile.com/AOL-Cancellation |
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06-23-2006, 12:32 AM
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Last Online: 05-01-2008 02:54 AM Join Date: Nov 2003
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DNF$: 1,375 Location: Kobe, Japan
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM I agree that this is a landmark case.
I registered the KOL.COM domain name on July 30, 1997, and AOL filed the KOL word mark for the first time with the United States Patent and Trademark Office only on May 2, 2003. |
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06-23-2006, 12:38 AM
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DNF$: 643 Location: India | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Simple.....why dont u sue them back....
u would surely win this one |
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06-23-2006, 01:14 AM
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Name: Darren Last Online: Today 08:26 PM Join Date: Feb 2006
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM What a load of B.S.
I wonder if they're going after JOL.com also.
Last edited by Devil Dog; 06-23-2006 at 01:18 AM.
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06-23-2006, 01:14 AM
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Last Online: Today 08:44 PM Join Date: Mar 2005
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DNF$: 3,621 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Did you ever advertise AOL or AOL related products on kol.com, or try to sell it to AOL? If not, this is one of the worst, most flagrant attempt of reverse domain name hijacking I've heard of. |
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06-23-2006, 01:45 AM
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM This corporate greed and theft attempts makes me feel less guilty about my TM typos  |
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06-23-2006, 01:54 AM
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Last Online: 01-21-2008 09:39 AM Join Date: Jul 2005
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DNF$: 1,082 Location: Tokyo
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM You're in Kobe man....
Tell them it's a site for Kobe's OLs
That was the purpose for it.
Kobe Online
How can a US trademark have the rights to a non US registrant that registered the domain BEFORE the US trademark was registered? If they don't have rights to it in Japan before you registered it, how can they sue you?
Move it Onamae.com or another Japanese registry man.
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06-23-2006, 01:54 AM
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Last Online: Yesterday 08:16 PM Join Date: Oct 2002
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DNF$: 10,024 Location: Cali
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM WOW...fight back Yosh, they deserve a good lawsuit. Take back some of that cash they have been stealing from newbie internet users  |
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06-23-2006, 02:04 AM
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Last Online: 07-14-2008 06:41 AM Join Date: Dec 2004
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DNF$: 2,387 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Tell them where to stick it, unless you are showing AOL related PPC pages ( or were ) no way they can win this. |
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06-23-2006, 02:36 AM
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Last Online: 09-01-2008 09:17 AM Join Date: Jul 2004
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DNF$: 4,071 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Agreed with the rest. Attempts at reverse domain name hijacking should be punishable by firing squad. If your domain isn't safe than NONE of our names are safe. |
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06-23-2006, 03:32 AM
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Name: Lorenzo Last Online: 08-15-2008 02:30 AM Join Date: Feb 2006
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM AOL managers or whoever had the idea to try this should be invited in a mental hospital.
Put that letter on your website to piss them off and sue them back.
I can`t believe to their arrogance. |
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06-23-2006, 03:51 AM
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Last Online: 01-21-2008 09:39 AM Join Date: Jul 2005
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DNF$: 1,082 Location: Tokyo
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM How can they try to claim a trademark for domain with a registration in Kobe, Japan????
Japan is not under US trademark jurisdiction....
It's totally seperate trademark laws...
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06-23-2006, 04:32 AM
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Name: Simon Last Online: Today 11:21 AM Join Date: Dec 2005
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DNF$: 47,252 Location: Heard & McDonald Islands
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM but why is KOL.com put offline? I dont see any pages in archive that might have resembled AOL's TM.
I am sure you will win the case given that u never used the name for AOL related products/ads
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06-23-2006, 05:09 AM
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Last Online: Today 01:56 PM Join Date: Apr 2004
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DNF$: 207 Location: Belgium
Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Although I also believe this might be considered as reverse domainname hijacking, I'd pay attention to what you post inhere: AOL-lawyers will definitely read this forum too.
Looks like you never put anything AOL-related on that domain, you have a strong case: keep it that.
Good luck ! |
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06-23-2006, 05:13 AM
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DNF$: 2,387 | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM Hopefully they read all of this and come to their senses.. although i doubt it since they are billing hours for it so regardless of merit they will go ahead.. either the owner or AOL will foot the bill. |
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06-23-2006, 05:19 AM
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Country: | Re: AOL eyes on KOL.COM true, in order to win this trademark case, there should be absolutely no evidence whatsoever that you diverted AOL traffic to your site by displaying any of their content. why is the name down in any case? Has AOL instructed the registrar to take it offline or what`s happening?
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