Appraisal Scammer - theonlinebrokerage.com

[TooMuch2AM]

Here they are again!

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Ronald Isaacks

CEO

JPS Online Real Estate LLC
isaacks@theonlinebrokerage.com

Mike,

Sorry for delay. We were celebrating newborn child of my cousine.

**** pounds. Ok.
Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain
appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very
important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation
company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from
independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal
companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://nametalk.007sites.com/Archive/693528.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price
accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15%
discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to
obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire
transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

[blogcrash]

I was also contacted.

The guy went away after my reply with a link to google results of "isaacks@theonlinebrokerage.com"

Scammer!

[elmister]

Originally Posted by blogcrash

I was also contacted.

The guy went away after my reply with a link to google results of "isaacks@theonlinebrokerage.com"

Scammer!

Sorry, but you gave him a clue about what to do next time -> change email address

[blogcrash]

Originally Posted by elmister

Sorry, but you gave him a clue about what to do next time -> change email address

Sorry! Do you think so???

I don't!!!

It's so obvious that i'm sure he already know!!!
Change email address??? And also the domain, right???

Please....

This was not a clue for him. Was a clue for begginers.

Always make a Google Search when you receive this kind of contacts.

[biglou2442]

i just got an email from these clowns today new name i think too:


Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Robb Shecter

President

The Online Real Estate LLC
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[ecomindia]

I too used to get this scam sometime back . One day, I replied (in 2007 mid)
I got this guy conviced that I am interested in appraisal and made him come to yahoo chat online .

He was from African country "Namibia" - !!!!!!!!!!!!
He was a Free Lancer (although his mail said something estate)- !!!!!!!!!!!!
He was haggling and was tooo eager to get my money details - !!!!!!!!!!!!
He was getting too personal @ same time - !!!!!!!!!!!!

This happened all in 3 chats if i remember correctly and then kicked hime off!

[24HourDomainer]

I wish their was a way to expose the scammers to the FBI

[DanB]

Got one today, with a new name:

Michael Warshol

CEO

Elite Real Estate LLC

warshol@theonlinebrokerage.com

[victornumber]

hmm....if all of you guys have been getting it, perhaps he hangs around on this forum as well I suspect

[24HourDomainer]

Originally Posted by victornumber

hmm....if all of you guys have been getting it, perhaps he hangs around on this forum as well I suspect

Yes, I agree the scammer is a member in all the forums. Sooner or later Karma will knock on his door. No one can outrun Karma!

[mike503]

I'm glad I googled this. It seemed a bit too good to be true.

Not only did the guy actually offer me more than I asked for in the first email, he totally seemed to ignore everything I had to say.

I'm trying to sell acpi.com, valued according to Godaddy at almost $11k. I've got an offer on the table but I think it is too low, so I tried listing it everywhere possible. I thought this was a genuine lead off that. Apparently not :(

What I find interesting is people listing their domains on Godaddy that have an appraised value at maybe $300 asking for $5k. I'm willing to accept a sub-appraisal offer!

Oh yeah, warshol@the(notgivingcredittohisname).com is who has been talking to me.

[Cashcows]

I don't believe in appraisals at all I think they are for suckers unless you you are going to donate the name and claim a tax write off.

I'm not going to let anyone tell me what MY names are worth and pay them to do so. Appraisals are just another marketing gimmick to make the people that do the appraisals more money and provide them an income stream.

If you listen to them in the long run you will sell you names far too cheap. I have sold almost every name that I have sold for ten times what other people told me it was worth that includes people on boards and other people trying to buy my names.

Save your money and buy another name or go out to dinner.

[draggar]

Originally Posted by 24HourDomainer

I wish their was a way to expose the scammers to the FBI

I'd hate to say it but there isn't much the FBI could get against them - maybe a low end of fraud.

The claim they are interested in purchasing your domain - nothing illegal about this.

They want an appraisal and suggest one, or more, services. The "seller" voluntarily does one.

They decide against it.

The only way someone might be successful in fighting this is if they can prove that the "buyer" had no intention to purchase the domain, which is very hard to prove, or that they are affiliated with the appraisal company, which can also be hard to prove.

The fact that most of these people are overseas makes it even harder to not only investigate but also to prosecute.

The sad thing is that there is so much crap going on today on the internet and the people doing it are getting away with it. They get caught, their domain gets shut down, so what, they just get a new batch of domains (for email, for the company etc..) and they're starting over with little cost (what, maybe $40 in domains?).

All we can do is educate as many people as possible.

[missedcall]

agree with draggar
although scam there is nothing you can do reporting it cause practically there is no case.
also have in mind that this is not the same person, and most probably are operating thru sat links in Nigeria (as the famous Nigerian spammers) so going after the IP you will end up in pc's part of botnets.

[24HourDomainer]

I just want to know who this SCUMBAG is, so his family and friends can see his name posted online for this appraisal scam.

[copper]

Appraisal scammer must make enough money to continue this crap!

[mclovin]

Just received another one of these scam emails, just days after buying the domain here on DNF. Scammer probably trolling the boards...

This time it was from a Thomas Warshol
Contents:
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Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

We are very interested in it. Good domains are wise investment in the
future. We are in real estate business. Our company is interested in
easy-to-remember domain names.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Thomas Warshol

CEO

OBS Real Estate LLC

[Toilet-Monster]

yayy i got one too today its around the 10th so far..

lame

He sent an email from warshol@theonlinebrokerage.com

the domain theonlinebrokerage.com is registered by
Registrant:
Thomas Smerdon
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917
dntrader@hotmail.com

according to the whois.

probably fake info tho...

[blogspotter]

http://mail.google.com/mail/images/star_off_sm_2.gif Warshol

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550. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://nametalk.007sites.com/Archive/698362.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly. It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer, PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

Originally Posted by Toilet-Monster

yayy i got one too today its around the 10th so far..

lame

He sent an email from warshol@theonlinebrokerage.com

the domain theonlinebrokerage.com is registered by
Registrant:
Thomas Smerdon
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917
dntrader@hotmail.com

according to the whois.

probably fake info tho...

He almost had me this lousy bastard

[NeoGen]

Update "President" has changed now it is from:

greenwald@theonlinebrokerage.com

Hello,

Are you still interested in sale of your domain? What is your price?

We are in real estate. But we are very interested in Internet names and
web sites too.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,

Mark Greenwald

President

OBN Real Estate LLC