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Old 01-19-2009, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Appraisal Scammer - theonlinebrokerage.com

Hello,

My name is Marc Shavell and I'm very interested in your domain.

Investing in domains is a profitable business. Of course, this is not our
main business.

Please let me know your price for the domain in the subject line. If you
have other good names just send me the list with prices.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Marc Shavell
Vice President
VOB Services LLC
Real Estate Brokerage Services

I responded with a price and this is the response I got.


Thank you for the fast response.

1500. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without
valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of
reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will
only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://nameblog.007sites.com/582619.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.
It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll
continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer,
PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

shavell@theonlinebrokerage.com

Administrative Contact:
Smerdon, Thomas
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917
dntrader@hotmail.com

This scumbag has been targeting people for a long time, I CAN WAIT TO GET YOU SCUMBAG
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I got one of these also. He offered me $12k for a $1k name.
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Old 01-19-2009, 07:18 PM   #3 (permalink)
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that exact appraisal scam has been going around for ages , he usually changes his name but everything else stays the same.

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that exact appraisal scam has been going around for ages , he usually changes his name but everything else stays the same.
if you read the "forum post" it always directs you to http://www.domainexplorer.org which the scammer says is the real appraisal service. That has to be his real site.

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Old 01-19-2009, 07:39 PM   #4 (permalink)
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i'm confused,what's the scam?

ok i understand now nevermind.

http://domainnamewire.com/2008/03/06...am-resurfaces/

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I received a variant today:

From: burnstein@theonlinebrokerage.com

Hello,

My name is Jeffrey Burnstein and I'm very interested in your domain.

Investing in domains is a profitable business.

Please let me know your price for the domain in the subject line. If you
have other good names just send me the list with prices.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
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CEO
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This guy is using GoDaddy to operate his scams. I have reported it to godady and Adam and have received no response.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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This has been reported and will dealt with.

thanks,

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Old 02-02-2009, 09:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Quote:
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Hello,

My name is Marc Shavell and I'm very interested in your domain.

Investing in domains is a profitable business. Of course, this is not our
main business.

Please let me know your price for the domain in the subject line. If you
have other good names just send me the list with prices.

Looking forward to do business with you.

Regards,
Marc Shavell
Vice President
VOB Services LLC
Real Estate Brokerage Services

I responded with a price and this is the response I got.


Thank you for the fast response.

1500. Ok.

Do you sell domain with a web site or just the name?

Domain without content is ok with me. Web site is not necessary.

Have you had your domain names evaluated in the past? I mean domain appraisals. Without
valuation we cannot be sure in the sale price. It's very important for me in terms of
reselling too. But we must engage a valuation company with REAL manual service. So I will
only accept valuations from independent sources I and my partners trust.

To avoid mistakes I asked domain experts about reputable appraisal companies.

Please check this blog with suggestions from other sellers and buyers:
http://nameblog.007sites.com/582619.htm

If, for example, the valuation comes higher you can adjust your asking price accordingly.
It will be fair. I also hope you can give me 12% - 15% discount.

After you send me the valuation via email (usually it takes 1-2 days to obtain it) we'll
continue our negotiations.

What is your preferred payment method: Escrow.com, International wire transfer,
PayPal.com or something else?

Hope we can come to an agreement fast.

Looking forward to your reply.

shavell@theonlinebrokerage.com

Administrative Contact:
Smerdon, Thomas
11 High Street
Stoke, Hamdon TA14 6PP
United Kingdom
441935824917
dntrader@hotmail.com

This scumbag has been targeting people for a long time, I CAN WAIT TO GET YOU SCUMBAG
Wow. This is the same appraisal scam "template" that's been circulating for years. I'm amazed they haven't even changed a single word. Laaame.
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Yep - I've been getting these for many years.
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This has been reported and will dealt with.

thanks,

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Awesome!

Thanks DCG!
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This has been reported and will dealt with.

thanks,

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Thank Adam.

Can you check the IP record godaddy has for the scammers account and see if you find that IP in dnforum membership list.

This may be our only way to link this scumbag to an account on dnf. If he or she has one!
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Can someone email me the host headers.

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Can someone email me the host headers.

Thanks,

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Is Host Headers in the email? If yes, i deleted the emails after posting here.
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i got the email today. adam if you need it i can forward to you.
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I got one yesterday from Jeffery Burnstein, let me know if you would like it also.
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I received this email today from a "waldman@theonlinebrokerage.com" so it looks like he is still doing this. The domain "theonlinebrokerage.com" is registered thru Godaddy.com hopefully noone falls for it.


Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

Investing in domains is a profitable business and our company is
interested in good and easy-to-remember domain names.

Looking forward to do business with you.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Regards,
Earl Waldman
CEO
Elite Brokers LLC
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:17 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Just received it for a new registered name

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From - Mon Apr 27 18:08:57 2009
X-Account-Key: account1
X-UIDL: GmailId120e84eb776dacd3
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Delivered-To: xx@x.com
Received: by 10.204.101.203 with SMTP id d11cs106200bko;
Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:00:55 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by 10.224.45.141 with SMTP id e13mr6157146qaf.165.1240848054175;
Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
Return-Path: <waldman@theonlinebrokerage.com>
Received: from mail40.atl.registeredsite.com (mail40.atl.registeredsite.com [209.237.134.230])
by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 13si5965268qyk.79.2009.04.27.09.00.53;
Mon, 27 Apr 2009 09:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 209.237.134.230 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of waldman@theonlinebrokerage.com) client-ip=209.237.134.230;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 209.237.134.230 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of waldman@theonlinebrokerage.com) smtp.mail=waldman@theonlinebrokerSwitch Editor Modeage.com
Received: from server_name.usa.prod.interland.net ([64.225.249.184])
by mail40.atl.registeredsite.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n3RG0rbd029935
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To: <x@x.x>
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Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:00:52 -0400
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Message-ID: <IPSWAZ0025ATL28wSA100000744@server_name.usa.prod. interland.net>
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2009 16:00:52.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[57588FF0:01C9C751]

Hello,

What is the price of your domain?

Investing in domains is a profitable business and our company is
interested in good and easy-to-remember domain names.

Looking forward to do business with you.

If you have other domains for sale feel free to send your list.

Regards,
Earl Waldman
CEO
Elite Brokers LLC
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i too had this wanker email me after i posted up my first domain name for auction on sedo.

from: eagleson@theonlinebrokerage.com

> Regards,
> Christopher Eagleson
> CEO
> TB Real Estate LLC

what part of the header did you want me to post up or i can email / message it to you, let me know.
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